The NASCAR Thread

[nvrbdn]

another sad event. oh well, there may be some excitement. tony will be out to enjoy a hunting season.

[Budnicks]

Apparently Hendricks has found another way to cheat legally. Brad K had been bitching about a modified axle in the Henricks car. NASCAR found that they have modified the axle to turn slightly to follow the front wheels. This gives them much more speed in the corners. After inspecting this NASCAR proclaimed it was legal since other teams were starting to do this

what a crock     keep letting them get away withthis crap

Amen to that, Pensky or Roush couldn't get away with that type crap, like the Hendricks teams does, remember the B-Pillar &/or C-pillar incident earlier, how long were they able to run the car before they were told to correct the problems... They {NASCAR} seem to want Chevy, Jr., Jimmy or Jeff to win the Championship or something, but still a Toyota is Leading even with all the cheating going on in the Hendricks camp, go figure, maybe they are cheating even more...

[cdr]

the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins 

[moparstuart]

the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins 

the sad thing is they get caught over and over but only get fined and no points taken away , or thye give the points back a few weeks later after it has all blown over .  bunch of BS

[Ghoste]

It's like a reality show on wheels.

[Budnicks]

the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins 

If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL...  Creative Rules Interpretations 

[Ponch ®]

the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins 

If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL...  Creative Rules Interpretations 

I hate to sound like a broken record...but please! The Petty's cheated, Smokey Yunick cheated, EVERYBODY cheated..and yet you "NASCAR sucks now" guys speak oh so fondly of those good old days and even revere those guys for outsmarting "the man". Get over it already.

[Ghoste]

I"m likely missing it somewhere but I don't remember anyone saying they never cheated when NASCAR was good.

[nvrbdn]

one thing people actually enjoyed about vintage nascar was the variety of cars. unmistakeable body styles. you knew what you were looking at. plymouth, dodge, ford, buick. you knew what the car was. today every car has the same shape, same wing, angle of wing. just the paint job tells you what its supposed to be. they arent selling cars any more, they are selling products and celebrities. thats why nascar sucks now. yep, every body tries to get an edge. but if you are not at the top of the fan base, (michael waltrip racing) you will pay. if you own the spotlight, (hendrick motor sports) nascar is afraid to punish you because it could cause a stir and lose money. the hendrick fans are happy with the decisions.

[Budnicks]

the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins 

If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL...  Creative Rules Interpretations 

I hate to sound like a broken record...but please! The Petty's cheated, Smokey Yunick cheated, EVERYBODY cheated..and yet you "NASCAR sucks now" guys speak oh so fondly of those good old days and even revere those guys for outsmarting "the man". Get over it already.

WTF

[Ponch ®]

the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins 

If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL...  Creative Rules Interpretations 

I hate to sound like a broken record...but please! The Petty's cheated, Smokey Yunick cheated, EVERYBODY cheated..and yet you "NASCAR sucks now" guys speak oh so fondly of those good old days and even revere those guys for outsmarting "the man". Get over it already.

WTF

my bad dude...that comment wasn't directly at you, it was actually agreeing with you.

I just don't get why people get their panties in a bunch over this. Hendrick getting away with it now is no different than Petty getting away with it in the 60s-70s. Cheating is part of the sport.

[Ghoste]

I don't anyone would dispute that though.  I think its only a big deal now because its current.  Talking about Hendricks cheating now is as intersting as talking about the who won the last race.  Talking about Petty cheating in 69 (he had to btw, he was driving a Ford that year) is about as interesting as talking about who won Riverside that year.

[Budnicks]

the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins 

If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL...  Creative Rules Interpretations 

I hate to sound like a broken record...but please! The Petty's cheated, Smokey Yunick cheated, EVERYBODY cheated..and yet you "NASCAR sucks now" guys speak oh so fondly of those good old days and even revere those guys for outsmarting "the man". Get over it already.

WTF

my bad dude...that comment wasn't directly at you, it was actually agreeing with you.

I just don't get why people get their panties in a bunch over this. Hendrick getting away with it now is no different than Petty getting away with it in the 60s-70s. Cheating is part of the sport.

That's kind of what I thought  ...  thanks for the clarification

[Aero426]

Butch Hartman's '72 USAC car was a little cheated up.   USAC was somewhat lax on enforcing sheet metal.  This is from Pocono, 72.   Good looking car, and bad fast too.

[Ghoste]

But then again, if that "lax-ness" was applied across the board, is it still cheating?

[Aero426]

But then again, if that "lax-ness" was applied across the board, is it still cheating?

I can't recall anyone else with a windshield laid back that far.    Maybe Junior Johnson's Yellow Banana.  

[nvrbdn]

if this dont beat it all, johnson causes a wreck by driving up the track into hornish jr. and these idiots say newman shouldnt have been on the outside causing the wreck. newman didnt do anything wrong but shouldnt have been there. WTF.... why cant they say jimmy caused the wreck and  pushed hornish up the track cause his spotter didnt tell him he wasnt clear yet. 

[General_01]

Par for the course. Even though I am not a Hamlin fan, at least he won so Newman has a chance to get in the Chase next week. If Gordon had won, Newman was done.

[nvrbdn]

yep, newman has to win now to get in. but hamlin kept gordon behind him.

[TruckDriver]

if this dont beat it all, johnson causes a wreck by driving up the track into hornish jr. and these idiots say newman shouldnt have been on the outside causing the wreck. newman didnt do anything wrong but shouldnt have been there. WTF.... why cant they say jimmy caused the wreck and  pushed hornish up the track cause his spotter didnt tell him he wasnt clear yet.  

I laughed my ass off and do everytime he crashes. It's a beautiful site to see. 

[A383Wing]

I laughed my ass off and do everytime he crashes. It's a beautiful site to see. 

as do I..either him or Gordon....if they both crash..I'm rolling on the floor

Bryan

[Budnicks]

How about the Keslowski {spelling ?} "water bottle" yellow, NASCAR said was for "other" debri on the track, Harvick was pissed...LOL... You see these "funny debri cautions" more & more now...

[chargerboy69]

Par for the course. Even though I am not a Hamlin fan, at least he won so Newman has a chance to get in the Chase next week. If Gordon had won, Newman was done.

Thats what I was thinking too.  Gordon was fast, but I was cheering Denny so Ryan had a chance to race in the Chase.  Two wrecks in two weeks, makes it hard to make the Chase.

As a side note, looks like not only Ryan has lost his main sponsor, so has Tony as Office Depot just announced they were leaving.  I am curious whether Ryan will be able to stay at SHR because of sponsorship problems.  Some websites have Ryan talking to Penske again. 


Office Depot, co-primary sponsor for Tony Stewart's #14 Chevy in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series since Stewart took over the team in 2009, will not return in that capacity in 2013, a team spokesman confirmed. "Office Depot has notified SHR that they will not be renewing as the primary sponsor of the #14 team," SHR spokesman Mike Arning said. "However, SHR is in continued discussions with Office Depot regarding possible future roles the company could have with the team." Asked what those future roles might be, Arning was unable to specify. "They want to be involved with Tony and the team, but are unsure how right now," he said. Office Depot's departure leaves quite a void for SHR. The office-products company held the primary sponsorship in 22 of 38 races in 2012. Mobil 1, which holds primary sponsorship of the #14 in the series' remaining 16 events, will carry the same investment in 2013, Arning said.
Mindy Kramer, Senior Director of Communications for Office Depot, said the decision to leave the three-time champion was difficult and not taken lightly. "The changing business landscape warrants a realignment of priorities and resources," Kramer said via written statement. "That being said, Tony Stewart has been an exceptional ambassador for our brand, and he has gone above and beyond in everything that he has done for our company. Being a part of his legendary 2011 championship run was a moment of tremendous pride for everyone at Office Depot." Office Depot is also currently the "Official Office Products Partner" of NASCAR, a status they've held since 2005. Kramer and NASCAR spokesman Jon Schwartz both said the two sides are still negotiating any future relationship.(ESPN)(9-2-2012)

[TruckDriver]

Logano to drive for Penske Racing next season

Joey Logano will join the Penske Racing in 2013, the team announced. He will drive the No. 22 Ford in the Sprint Cup Series.

http://www.nascar.com/news/120904/jlogano-to-penske-racing-2013/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup

[chargerboy69]

Logano to drive for Penske Racing next season

Joey Logano will join the Penske Racing in 2013, the team announced. He will drive the No. 22 Ford in the Sprint Cup Series.

http://www.nascar.com/news/120904/jlogano-to-penske-racing-2013/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup

I just read that too.

This is just my opinion, but I do not like this move.  I do not think Logano has turned out to be anywhere near what people were saying.  And if he can not make it at JGR, does anyone really think it will be better at PRS.  I would have kept Sam in the 22, he has been doing a great job since taking over the ride.