2008 'charger' commercial

[Silver R/T]

Im sure you guys seen this lame commercial by chrysler of some lady drawing on the board on the 08 'charger" "
"you talk, we listen" I raise  on that one. That's all I have to say.

[hemihead]

 Being that women are who new cars are the marketing target of today , I believe they did listen to that woman .

[bull]

They were talking about the dealers not the Charger fans.

[Rack]

Im sure you guys seen this lame commercial by chrysler of some lady drawing on the board on the 08 'charger" "
"you talk, we listen" I raise  on that one. That's all I have to say.

Careful there, Silver. Some member might come in here crying about you criticizing the new 'charger'.

[Crazy Larry]

what are you talking about?

No one criticizes the new "Charger"......there is no way anyone would ever say that today's Dodge "Charger" is lame..

The "Charger" is called a "Charger" so it must be great - no way would anyone try to imply that the new "Charger" is not a real Charger.....



and to the "charger" lovers here....

[bull]

what are you talking about?

No one criticizes the new "Charger"......there is no way anyone would ever say that today's Dodge "Charger" is lame..

The "Charger" is called a "Charger" so it must be great - no way would anyone try to imply that the new "Charger" is not a real Charger.....



and to the "charger" lovers here....

Huh?

[Crazy Larry]

what are you talking about?

No one criticizes the new "Charger"......there is no way anyone would ever say that today's Dodge "Charger" is lame..

The "Charger" is called a "Charger" so it must be great - no way would anyone try to imply that the new "Charger" is not a real Charger.....



and to the "charger" lovers here....

Huh?

It was a sarcastic post referring to the " "'s that many on the board (including me) use to reference today's "Charger" - by calling it by name yet still showing our protest to the vehicle.

By posting "Charger" - instead of Charger - you are basically taking the piss out of the new vehicle, it's lackluster design, and those who continue to stick up for it.

therefore - if you write....

Don't criticize the 2008 Dodge "Charger", it's a fine vehicle.

...it is a hidden rib shot in a sentence that makes one think you are taking a neutral stance.

Rack used this technique in his post earlier when he wrote:

Careful there, Silver. Some member might come in here crying about you criticizing the new 'charger'.

[hemihead]

Are you saying by calling it a Creeder I'll get people whining ?

[kylem4711]

maybe if we just stop talking about the new "charger" it will go away???   

[FastbackJon]

Bashing the new Creeder for a few years now and it still hasn't gotten old!



And no, I'm not even being sarcastic.

[Big Lebowski]

 Ya they listened allright. They (VP Trevor Crud or Creed) responded with..."If you want a (2 door) '69 Charger, then go buy one, there's a market for them". And..."They think their Chargers are the real thing". And who could forget Mr. Creed's..."The 2 door car market is dead" Ya the new 2 door Mustangs really suck.

[Brock Samson]

didn't we/you just cover this same crap, err,.. ground a few days ago?.. 

[69_500]

 Its a never ending cycle around here isn't it? Man.

Why don't people rip on everything else while they are at it?

[TheGhost]

Let it go, guys.  Let it go.

[Crazy Larry]

Bashing the new Creeder for a few years now and it still hasn't gotten old!



And no, I'm not even being sarcastic.

you speak the truth

[Crazy Larry]

Its a never ending cycle around here isn't it? Man.

Why don't people rip on everything else while they are at it?

It's like an itch that can never be scratched.

[hemihead]

I see they are whining already . Doesn't take much I guess . Just one word -  Creeder

[FastbackJon]

And who could forget Mr. Creed's..."The 2 door car market is dead"

Creed actually said the two door retro market was dead, not profitable.

Couple years later we have a new retro 2 door Challenger and dealer markups of $20,000 over MSRP to combat the buyer interest.

[hemihead]

And who could forget Mr. Creed's..."The 2 door car market is dead"

Creed actually said the two door retro market was dead, not profitable.

Couple years later we have a new retro 2 door Challenger and dealer markups of $20,000 over MSRP to combat the buyer interest.

That 's the new 2 dr. Creeder .

[daytonalo]

The Charger is OK if you 90 !!! I would maybe buy one if my sight was bad , this way I wouldn't notice it was a 4 door !!!

[bull]

Its a never ending cycle around here isn't it? Man.

Why don't people rip on everything else while they are at it?

Thanks, but no. This is my only complaint right now, at least let me have that. Besides, I'm of the opinion that if we keep the pressure on they'll eventually cave in and make things right. You don't see the "Impeach Bush" or the anti-war people giving up do you? And if I stopped complaining about Chrysler's egregious error they might start thinking I'm ok with a four door Magnum sedan being called "Charger" and we certainly can't have that. All they have to do to make things right is make up a bunch of "Enforcer" emblems and start putting them on the cars instead of the "Charger" emblems. That's what I would do if I were in charge of Chrysler. In fact I'd do a recall on the "Charger" for the sole purpose of replacing the emblems on all of them.

[70charginglizard]

Its a never ending cycle around here isn't it? Man.

Why don't people rip on everything else while they are at it?

Thanks, but no. This is my only complaint right now, at least let me have that. Besides, I'm of the opinion that if we keep the pressure on they'll eventually cave in and make things right. You don't see the "Impeach Bush" or the anti-war people giving up do you? And if I stopped complaining about Chrysler's egregious error they might start thinking I'm ok with a four door Magnum sedan being called "Charger" and we certainly can't have that. All they have to do to make things right is make up a bunch of "Enforcer" emblems and start putting them on the cars instead of the "Charger" emblems. That's what I would do if I were in charge of Chrysler. In fact I'd do a recall on the "Charger" for the sole purpose of replacing the emblems on all of them.

A men

[Rack]

Its a never ending cycle around here isn't it? Man.

Why don't people rip on everything else while they are at it?

Thanks, but no. This is my only complaint right now, at least let me have that. Besides, I'm of the opinion that if we keep the pressure on they'll eventually cave in and make things right. You don't see the "Impeach Bush" or the anti-war people giving up do you? And if I stopped complaining about Chrysler's egregious error they might start thinking I'm ok with a four door Magnum sedan being called "Charger" and we certainly can't have that. All they have to do to make things right is make up a bunch of "Enforcer" emblems and start putting them on the cars instead of the "Charger" emblems. That's what I would do if I were in charge of Chrysler. In fact I'd do a recall on the "Charger" for the sole purpose of replacing the emblems on all of them.

That pretty much hits the nail on the head. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[69charger2002]

on NO another 06+ "charger" post? what are you guys thinking? i totally agree with the last few posts by the way! 
trav

[Khyron]

I'll answer this later, I have to go and take a "dump"

[OneofNoneRT]

Ok Guys..all companies have there ups and downs..Good engineering and bad.. I will put up or shutup.. I have  a 68 RT and a 2008 RT with the "Road and Trac" which is an add on package! ?? I wunder what the RT stands for? ...anyway.. THE heritage of the Charger I feel is being supported by offering the charger as a sports package/car.. Unlike the Cordaba/Cherger.. and what the heck is this 2.2 geez.. talkabout embarrasing just so you can remember or if you have never seen one here is a reminder...

[hemihead]

At least the Cordoba style was a 2 door and was still better looking than the Creeder . The 2.2 Chargers , again , were 2 door cars and in Turbo form, put out more horsepower per cubic inch than any Mopar .

[Crazy Larry]

It's about time to re-hash the old humor....that never seems to get old, now does it.....

[TheGhost]

The 2.2 Chargers , again , were 2 door cars and in Turbo form, put out more horsepower per cubic inch than any Mopar .

The Honda Civic can claim that, as well.  And the new Charger can claim better all around performance than any classic Mopar.  Yet you don't like either of those cars.....

[hemihead]

Read again . I said more than any MOPAR . Did you read any place I said Honda ? So you would rather drive a Honda Civic than a Shelby Charger ?
Figures . As far as the new Creeder having better all around performance , according to who ? Some white collar journalist who drives a Jap crossover to work ?

[Brock Samson]

 

             

[hutch]

She draws on the board and the guy says.  "you want a car that goes faster?"  and then they start talking about a fucking v6 engine.  It sucks.  The big 3 suck, they are just making cars no body wants or is willing to pay 30K for.

they need to stand up to the government and make a damn car people can afford.  All this stafty crap is just crap and it costs to much money to develop.  I ask you, with all this safty crap, have we found a way to keep people from getting killed in a car yet?  No.  People are still getting kill and its costing us more and more money as a result of more and more safty junk we dont want.


Same with the EPA standards.  its crap. they will not stop till we are all on foot.  Hell our horses fart and they think thats is part of global warming as well so we cant even fucking ride horses.

[Brock Samson]

it's "safety".. 

[Shakey]

She draws on the board and the guy says.  "you want a car that goes faster?"  and then they start talking about a fucking v6 engine.  It sucks.  The big 3 suck, they are just making cars no body wants or is willing to pay 30K for.

they need to stand up to the government and make a damn car people can afford.  All this stafty crap is just crap and it costs to much money to develop.  I ask you, with all this safty crap, have we found a way to keep people from getting killed in a car yet?  No.  People are still getting kill and its costing us more and more money as a result of more and more safty junk we dont want.


Same with the EPA standards.  its crap. they will not stop till we are all on foot.  Hell our horses fart and they think thats is part of global warming as well so we cant even fucking ride horses.

Well said!   

[TheGhost]

Read again . I said more than any MOPAR . Did you read any place I said Honda ? So you would rather drive a Honda Civic than a Shelby Charger ?
Figures . As far as the new Creeder having better all around performance , according to who ? Some white collar journalist who drives a Jap crossover to work ?

Read what I wrote again.  You said the 2.2 turbo put out more hp per ci than any Mopar.  I said the same could be said for a turbo Civic, meaning that it, too, put out more hp/ci than any Mopar.  Essentially, I'm sarcastically making fun of you for using the same excuse ricers use against muscle cars (the "My car may not have as much actual HP, but I make more HP/liter than you do!" arguement).  Pretty weak, if you ask me.

And are you really trying to tell me that any Mopar from the 60s and 70s can out handle the new Charger, when both are in stock form?  The SRT-8 Charger has better 0-60 times than the classic, better top speed, etc.  I'm basically using the same arguements for the new Charger (which you hate), that you are using for the 2.2 Charger (which you are defending), and pointing out your blatant hypocracy.

[hemihead]

  1 - The Charger has a better power to weight ratio than the Creeder
  2 - Even the 2.2 Chargers did also
  3 - The Charger and 2.2 Chargers you could make performance upgrades to relatively easily . Not the Creeder , other than some Bling wheels ,bolt on gadgety stuff . They might have a chip ? Don't know .
  4 - The Charger and even the 2.2 Chargers were good looking 2 doors . With the Creeder , you have a Brick of a car with a truck front end . Kind of reminds you of a Nazi military vehicle . But has it has the all important 4 doors .
  Why is there a need for a performance 4 door ? Is anyone going to load their family into it and go do burnouts or blast down the interstate ?
  I hope nobody is that sick . The only purpose is so men in mid life crisis can talk their wives into buying it . Then when she is not around try to attract attention in it . The car is the joke of the Automotive world and a Black eye on Dodge's  image . The car was built designed and target at the women's market as most all cars in the last 5 years . You can hang a Charger name on it , paste all the decals on it you want but it is still a joke .
I still don't know what Honda had to do with the whole Mopar thing We were talking Chargers and you bring Honda into it Ok whatever .
Sounds like you bash Ricers but you defend a Bling mobile like the Creeder .

[TheGhost]

  1 - The Charger has a better power to weight ratio than the Creeder

Which model of new Charger are you comparing, the V6?

2 - Even the 2.2 Chargers did also

Since my Honda reference went flying over your head, I'll state this simply.  I'm not impressed by power to weight ratios, unless there is actually some power.  I have an RC car that has a better power/weight ratio than my Barracuda.  Guess which car is faster?

3 - The Charger and 2.2 Chargers you could make performance upgrades to relatively easily . Not the Creeder , other than some Bling wheels ,bolt on gadgety stuff . They might have a chip ? Don't know .

Odd...  I thought the 5.7 had quite a few new aftermarket parts...

4 - The Charger and even the 2.2 Chargers were good looking 2 doors . With the Creeder , you have a Brick of a car with a truck front end . Kind of reminds you of a Nazi military vehicle . But has it has the all important 4 doors .

Nazi vehicle?  I fail to make the connection, unless that was a racial joke pointed towards Mercedes.  And the Omni Chargers were among the ugliest cars made in the last century.  But, since I guess it has 2 doors, it doesn't matter how ugly it was.

Why is there a need for a performance 4 door ? Is anyone going to load their family into it and go do burnouts or blast down the interstate ?

Because alot of people like 4 doors.  I have a few friends who won't buy anything unless it's a 4 door.

The car is the joke of the Automotive world and a Black eye on Dodge's  image . The car was built designed and target at the women's market as most all cars in the last 5 years . You can hang a Charger name on it , paste all the decals on it you want but it is still a joke .

Joke?  I only hear you and a handful of others laughing at it.

I still don't know what Honda had to do with the whole Mopar thing We were talking Chargers and you bring Honda into it Ok whatever .
Sounds like you bash Ricers but you defend a Bling mobile like the Creeder .

You still don't get the satirism?

[red bull]

  I'm not a fan of four door Chargers either, nice car though, but I wouldn't buy one.  I like Big Lebowski's quotes about VP Creed, Mr. Creed sounds like a real idiot.

[Crazy Larry]

  1 - The Charger has a better power to weight ratio than the Creeder
  2 - Even the 2.2 Chargers did also
  3 - The Charger and 2.2 Chargers you could make performance upgrades to relatively easily . Not the Creeder , other than some Bling wheels ,bolt on gadgety stuff . They might have a chip ? Don't know .
  4 - The Charger and even the 2.2 Chargers were good looking 2 doors . With the Creeder , you have a Brick of a car with a truck front end . Kind of reminds you of a Nazi military vehicle . But has it has the all important 4 doors .
  Why is there a need for a performance 4 door ? Is anyone going to load their family into it and go do burnouts or blast down the interstate ?
  I hope nobody is that sick . The only purpose is so men in mid life crisis can talk their wives into buying it . Then when she is not around try to attract attention in it . The car is the joke of the Automotive world and a Black eye on Dodge's  image . The car was built designed and target at the women's market as most all cars in the last 5 years . You can hang a Charger name on it , paste all the decals on it you want but it is still a joke .
I still don't know what Honda had to do with the whole Mopar thing We were talking Chargers and you bring Honda into it Ok whatever .
Sounds like you bash Ricers but you defend a Bling mobile like the Creeder .

[Rack]

I have no problem with the performance of the new charger. That part of it is just fine.

I really only have two complaints: the ugly 'truck' grill and the 4 doors.


If Ford were to be dumb enough to make the mustang into a 4 door ford fans would burn down the ford headquarters.

[OneofNoneRT]

HMMM..

[Red Ram]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

[Rack]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

I'd say close to none of them (us)... at least until they change the charger into what it should be.

I guess I'll have to settle for a challenger (when the price comes down).

[Ghoste]

I was one of those people that wanted very much for V8 rwd to appear from Chrysler again but I never wished for it to be an ugly sedan.  If V8 rwd was the only qualifier, I'd have bought a pickup.  In any case, that isn't a slam on the folks who bought one, just a personal opinion.  The little suv goes back in 3 years and then we should be able to get a Challenger. 

[Shakey]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

Exactly - the folks with no intentions of buying one like to complain and say that "if this was different and if that was better, I woulda bought one". 

So now the Challenger is out and they start with "they shoulda done this or they coulda done that and I think $38,000.00 is waaaay to much for a V8 RWD 2 door brand new 425 hp muscle car with modern creature comforts and a factory warranty".

[Khyron]

I understand what your saying, but I'm one of the rare cases i guess. I could buy one, but I won't because of all the reasons i mentioned before. ugly, 4 door, etc etc.

As for the Chally. The wife loves the Charger, and her Mustang, and older cars in general. But we have an understanding that the family can only have 2 "toy" cars. Her Mustang, My Charger. If she ever wanted anything different, she needs to sell the mustang (her wedding present from me) she won't do that. If I want the Challenger, I would have to sell my Charger.

I don't see that happening.

So I will stay content is not liking the "Charger". But keep in mind, If they did it right. I would have bought one. I won't bash people that bought one. I just personally don't like the car.

well, I only pick on my friend that did buy one, so maybe i will just say I won't pick on anyone here for buying one

[69charger2002]

i was a potential "for sure" buyer. i would have bought an 06 charger the SECOND it came out had it been right.. not all the people that complained about the 06+ were broke dreamers
trav

[Rack]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

Exactly - the folks with no intentions of buying one like to complain and say that "if this was different and if that was better, I woulda bought one". 

So now the Challenger is out and they start with "they shoulda done this or they coulda done that and I think $38,000.00 is waaaay to much for a V8 RWD 2 door brand new 425 hp muscle car with modern creature comforts and a factory warranty".

So those of us who don't have 40K lying around the house to spend on a new musclecar don't have valid opinions?


I like the new challenger. I just can't afford it.

[RD]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

well red ram, its like this... all those people who bitched about that are the same people who could get a free screw in the parking lot and then bitch because they didnt get a BJ.

[Rack]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

well red ram, its like this... all those people who bitched about that are the same people who could get a free screw in the parking lot and then bitch because they didnt get a BJ.

If someone gave me a "Free" 'Charger' I'd sell that POS and put the money into a real charger (my '68). How 'bout them apples? 

[Crazy Larry]

What really sucks is that I loved my Dodge Intrepid - with it's front wheel drive, I never had a problem driving in the snow (especially in upstate New York). I wish they never did away with that line. The "Charger" disappoints me in more ways than just being a poor excuse to the name, but it also eliminated a front wheel drive full-sized sedan from Dodge's line-up....something that I always wanted.

Driving a rear wheel drive in the snow is horrendous. I do believe they offer the Charger in all-wheel drive, but that is the RT, I think - not the base model.

Remember there are a lot of Intrepid name plates in auto yards these days - I would have no problem doing the ol' change out with the "Charger's" decals. It's just that rear wheel drive thing sucks in the snow. I already have a '68 Charger toy, so I need my other vehicle all year. The "Charger" just wouldn't help visually or performance wise.

[Silver R/T]

What really sucks is that I loved my Dodge Intrepid - with it's front wheel drive, I never had a problem driving in the snow (especially in upstate New York). I wish they never did away with that line. The "Charger" disappoints me in more ways than just being a poor excuse to the name, but it also eliminated a front wheel drive full-sized sedan from Dodge's line-up....something that I always wanted.

Driving a rear wheel drive in the snow is horrendous. I do believe they offer the Charger in all-wheel drive, but that is the RT, I think - not the base model.

Remember there are a lot of Intrepid name plates in auto yards these days - I would have no problem doing the ol' change out with the "Charger's" decals. It's just that rear wheel drive thing sucks in the snow. I already have a '68 Charger toy, so I need my other vehicle all year. The "Charger" just wouldn't help visually or performance wise.

I do not think there is AWD 'charger' there never was one

[TheGhost]

They offer base model Chargers with the AWD.

[RD]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

well red ram, its like this... all those people who bitched about that are the same people who could get a free screw in the parking lot and then bitch because they didnt get a BJ.

If someone gave me a "Free" 'Charger' I'd sell that POS and put the money into a real charger (my '68). How 'bout them apples? 

i wasnt even talking about you, I was referring to red ram's initial statement regarding a specific personality type who just loved to bitch about the request for a rwd v8 car, not his actual "those in the market" comment... You have a guilty conscience? 

[Rack]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

well red ram, its like this... all those people who bitched about that are the same people who could get a free screw in the parking lot and then bitch because they didnt get a BJ.

If someone gave me a "Free" 'Charger' I'd sell that POS and put the money into a real charger (my '68). How 'bout them apples? 

i wasnt even talking about you, I was referring to red ram's initial statement regarding a specific personality type who just loved to bitch about the request for a rwd v8 car, not his actual "those in the market" comment... You have a guilty conscience? 

I was just messin' around, dude. No need to get pissy. 

Guilty conscience? Yes I must admit, I have gotten upset over not getting a BJ before. You got me.

[bull]

All I know is the new "Charger" reminds me of a band like Nickleback doing a half-assed cover of a classic Led Zeppelin song.

[Crazy Larry]

All I know is the new "Charger" reminds me of a band like Nickleback doing a half-assed cover of a classic Led Zeppelin song.

Good point 

[RD]

I remember when everyone (including me) just wanted to have a rear wheel drive car with a V-8...now we have that and people are still unsatisfied. I wonder of the people complaining, how many are really in the market to buy?

well red ram, its like this... all those people who bitched about that are the same people who could get a free screw in the parking lot and then bitch because they didnt get a BJ.

If someone gave me a "Free" 'Charger' I'd sell that POS and put the money into a real charger (my '68). How 'bout them apples? 

i wasnt even talking about you, I was referring to red ram's initial statement regarding a specific personality type who just loved to bitch about the request for a rwd v8 car, not his actual "those in the market" comment... You have a guilty conscience? 

I was just messin' around, dude. No need to get pissy. 

Guilty conscience? Yes I must admit, I have gotten upset over not getting a BJ before. You got me.

[Silver R/T]

I think this "i like/don't like 06 Charger" threads can be solved very easy. This site should be only for 68-74 Chargers. That way if you dont like 06+ ones you can enjoy this site without bs threads popping up all the time and other "lovers" worshiping  06. There are numerous sites for 06's so if they want to talk about 06's performance, options, how do I fix and that they can go ahead and stay there while everyone else keeps enjoying 68-74 Chargers. Of course this is up to Troy to decide if he wants to have separation. I think majority should prevail (who are 68-74 owners) In real world you listen to majority not the minority, that's how even government works.

[Ghoste]

Personally,I like it this way though and I can't help but think that most others do too?  As much as I dislike the styling of the new car and as little as 4th and 5th gen Charger owners participate here, I think it's really great that we at least make an attempt to be the single all inclusive Charger site on the net.
If we were to just listen to the majority, this would be a 2nd gen only site and from that we could be a 68 only site and that is only a few polls away from something like the "green 383 automatic trans 68 Charger forum" or similar breakdown.

[TheGhost]

I think this "i like/don't like 06 Charger" threads can be solved very easy. This site should be only for 68-74 Chargers. That way if you dont like 06+ ones you can enjoy this site without bs threads popping up all the time and other "lovers" worshiping  06. There are numerous sites for 06's so if they want to talk about 06's performance, options, how do I fix and that they can go ahead and stay there while everyone else keeps enjoying 68-74 Chargers. Of course this is up to Troy to decide if he wants to have separation. I think majority should prevail (who are 68-74 owners) In real world you listen to majority not the minority, that's how even government works.

Why make those of us who DO like the car leave, simply because you can't deal with it?


And why aren't you including the first gen Chargers in with "real" Chargers.  Last time I checked, a 66-67 Charger was pretty real.

[Shakey]

I think this "i like/don't like 06 Charger" threads can be solved very easy. This site should be only for 68-74 Chargers. That way if you dont like 06+ ones you can enjoy this site without bs threads popping up all the time and other "lovers" worshiping  06. There are numerous sites for 06's so if they want to talk about 06's performance, options, how do I fix and that they can go ahead and stay there while everyone else keeps enjoying 68-74 Chargers. Of course this is up to Troy to decide if he wants to have separation. I think majority should prevail (who are 68-74 owners) In real world you listen to majority not the minority, that's how even government works.

And while we're showing members of the board the door, let's also put a boot to the ass of the resident fools that constantly post idiotic statements.

Also, since there are a few of these members, the members that own a Ford get moved to the front of the line and said boot must be frozen first. 

[69_500]

Well if we were going to boot people on the board for just owning a Ford, you would have to boot some of the Moderators. Oh, and probably boot the person who runs the whole forum as the last show I went to he was there in a toyota truck. 


These threads would go much smoother if the people who like the new charger posted in them, and the ones who don't like them just moved on to the next thread. Which is generally the way it works for threads on all of the other generations of chargers. I know a lot of people who don't care for the first gen chargers, but I don't see them constantly bashing on them in the threads that are for them? Same goes for people who prefer the 3rd gens over the first two, I don't see them bashing on the other generations because of personal preference. Same goes for even the FWD versions of the 80's/early 90's. People who dislike them don't costantly feel the need to get their  opinions in on every topic that there is about those cars.

[bull]

Well if we were going to boot people on the board for just owning a Ford, you would have to boot some of the Moderators. Oh, and probably boot the person who runs the whole forum as the last show I went to he was there in a toyota truck. 


These threads would go much smoother if the people who like the new charger posted in them, and the ones who don't like them just moved on to the next thread. Which is generally the way it works for threads on all of the other generations of chargers. I know a lot of people who don't care for the first gen chargers, but I don't see them constantly bashing on them in the threads that are for them? Same goes for people who prefer the 3rd gens over the first two, I don't see them bashing on the other generations because of personal preference. Same goes for even the FWD versions of the 80's/early 90's. People who dislike them don't costantly feel the need to get their  opinions in on every topic that there is about those cars.

So you're saying there wouldn't be any disagreements in this world if only people who shared the same opinions talked to each other? Quick, someone call the UN with that idea!

I don't know about your example. There is almost never any fourth and fifth generation Charger and/or Ford and Chevy owners showing up here let alone showing up two or three times a month. And more often than not (unless they're a troll) when they do show up here they come with their hat in their hands and they and their supporters are showing some respect rather than yakking about how superior their sedan is to the older two-door muscle cars. And everyone knows, whether they say it or not, that the muscle car era ended in 1974 and they know that whether they're driving a newer RWD V8 or not. And like it or not this site is primarily about the '66-'74 Charger so your not going to get many tips on 22" spinners, superchips or how to work your GPS so basically that means we're stuck focusing on either the interior or the styling.

And there is a distinction between "bashing" someone over personal preference and pointing out the fact that there are glaring differences in all but a couple aspects between the two-door '66-'74 collector muscle car and the recent four-door sedan. The only thing that's really a problem is that the new car is misnamed. If the car had a different name the classic Charger owners would be fine with it and the new "Charger" owners would never show up to talk about it because the name wouldn't (as it shouldn't) be associated with a modern sedan. I still just can't understand for the life of me why it's ok to complain when someone says something negative about the new LX version of the "Charger" on this site but it's not ok to complain about Chrysler ignoring the legacy of the Charger name by putting it on a grocery-getter. Why is one opinion more valid than the other in that respect? People like me are offended that the Charger name has been disrespected; why can't we voice our distain for that without getting a sermon every time?

[Shakey]

Well if we were going to boot people on the board for just owning a Ford, you would have to boot some of the Moderators. Oh, and probably boot the person who runs the whole forum as the last show I went to he was there in a toyota truck. 

Read what I posted again.

[Silver R/T]

Well if we were going to boot people on the board for just owning a Ford, you would have to boot some of the Moderators. Oh, and probably boot the person who runs the whole forum as the last show I went to he was there in a toyota truck. 


These threads would go much smoother if the people who like the new charger posted in them, and the ones who don't like them just moved on to the next thread. Which is generally the way it works for threads on all of the other generations of chargers. I know a lot of people who don't care for the first gen chargers, but I don't see them constantly bashing on them in the threads that are for them? Same goes for people who prefer the 3rd gens over the first two, I don't see them bashing on the other generations because of personal preference. Same goes for even the FWD versions of the 80's/early 90's. People who dislike them don't costantly feel the need to get their  opinions in on every topic that there is about those cars.

or just have a 06+ forum section just for those guys, that way whoever doesnt like them just stays out of it.

I think this "i like/don't like 06 Charger" threads can be solved very easy. This site should be only for 68-74 Chargers. That way if you dont like 06+ ones you can enjoy this site without bs threads popping up all the time and other "lovers" worshiping  06. There are numerous sites for 06's so if they want to talk about 06's performance, options, how do I fix and that they can go ahead and stay there while everyone else keeps enjoying 68-74 Chargers. Of course this is up to Troy to decide if he wants to have separation. I think majority should prevail (who are 68-74 owners) In real world you listen to majority not the minority, that's how even government works.

Why make those of us who DO like the car leave, simply because you can't deal with it?


And why aren't you including the first gen Chargers in with "real" Chargers.  Last time I checked, a 66-67 Charger was pretty real.

my mistake, I apologize. I ment to say 66-74 year Chargers.

[Rack]

I think this "i like/don't like 06 Charger" threads can be solved very easy. This site should be only for 68-74 Chargers. That way if you dont like 06+ ones you can enjoy this site without bs threads popping up all the time and other "lovers" worshiping  06. There are numerous sites for 06's so if they want to talk about 06's performance, options, how do I fix and that they can go ahead and stay there while everyone else keeps enjoying 68-74 Chargers. Of course this is up to Troy to decide if he wants to have separation. I think majority should prevail (who are 68-74 owners) In real world you listen to majority not the minority, that's how even government works.

And while we're showing members of the board the door, let's also put a boot to the ass of the resident fools that constantly post idiotic statements.

Also, since there are a few of these members, the members that own a Ford get moved to the front of the line and said boot must be frozen first. 

Well hell, Shakey, if you want me to leave all you have to do is ask. 

[69_500]

The comment I was making about your post Shakey was a sarcastic comment.


I never said that people should only talk to each other if they are of the same opinion. I purely stated that people tend to stick to what they like on most of these threads. IE people who prefer first gens, tend to post in the first gen threads. The people who prefer the 3rd gens tend to post mainly on the 3rd gen threads. People who prefer the aero cars tend to post mainly in the aero section. Just because they all post in the same section doesn't mean that they all agree on things however. IE some people are more into rods and customs, others like OEM Stock, others just like to have a Charger and drive it.

The pure and simple reason that there are constanlty new threads on the new Chargers is because they are excatly that. NEW. If the internet was around and as popular as it today back in 1983 there would have been the same thing going on then. People with the older cars ripping on the newer Chargers. Saying that they misnamed them because they were FWD cars. People can always find something about a new vehicle that they dislike, same goes for older ones.