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what an e-bay find!!! the orig fender tag to my AAR !!!

Started by 69 OUR/TEA, February 07, 2008, 10:35:47 PM

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69 OUR/TEA

Hey gang,just proves that finding a needle in a haystack is possible.I bought a matching number EV2  AAR in 02,came with the one owner orig title,but no fender tags.Guy,(flipper),I bought it from says he knew who had the tags,but was not going to give them up.Don't know the whole story why,but whatever.I had the car documented,and had the tags made,but the only wrong item is my sequence number,because I also do not have the BS(car had the wrong one in it),therefore is not correct.Wrote it off as to never to find or obtain,but as I do my e-bay searches for the cars I own,last sun,bam there is my fender tag with my vin # cut off.The second I saw it I knew it was mine as to where the auction is coming from,same cluster of towns in the area of that state.Orig owners address was blocks from where I sent the money to buy the car,and now the fender tag is blocks from that!!!!Six years later I have the chance to obtain!!! Of course I won it,received yesterday,and to put it in concrete,when the vin was cut off,they left about 1/16th of an inch of the numbers still exposed!!!!! :2thumbs:In person ,when reading it from the backside,you can clearly see the tops of the numbers of my vin!!!I have many ideas speculating why he cut it off,but I am just glad to have it now.These have been a great past few weeks for me,don't know what I did to deserve it,but first as you all have seen in my post,I found my dream charger ,a loaded 69 triple black R/T SE,then 1hot68(Brian),set me up with a friend of his who had a 69 440 HP date coded for this car,thanks again Brian,and then now this!!!Here is a pic of how I got the tag....

69charger2002

that is really incredible. i HATE people that take fender tags off cars. if you do let it go with the car. i will never understand why people do that. it is useless without the car!
trav
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FastbackJon

As the rightful owner, I think you should have gotten it free. Should be illegal to buy/sell those things, just like VIN plates.
"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




Charger1973

Amazing that you found it!  I took mine off just so it cant be stolen.  I keep it with the title and it wont be going back on the car as long as I own it. 

TruckDriver

PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
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69bronzeT5

My screws are so screwed up that the tag wont come off...nobody can steal it :lol:. CONGRATS on the tag!
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
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1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Fitz73Chrgr

Quote from: FastbackJon on February 07, 2008, 11:02:17 PM
As the rightful owner, I think you should have gotten it free. Should be illegal to buy/sell those things, just like VIN plates.

I disagree, it only states the options the car came with, it has no legal use.  Not that it doesn't suck when it is separated from the car, but as far as making it illegal, there is no reason for that.
'73 Charger - project                '70 Charger - driver                 '66 Charger - survivor

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terrible one

Quote from: 69charger2002 on February 07, 2008, 10:39:34 PM
that is really incredible. i HATE people that take fender tags off cars. if you do let it go with the car. i will never understand why people do that. it is useless without the car!
trav

Tell me about it! The fender tag was removed from my car, as well as the buildsheet.  :brickwall:

Hemidog

Quote from: terrible one on February 08, 2008, 01:13:57 AM
Quote from: 69charger2002 on February 07, 2008, 10:39:34 PM
that is really incredible. i HATE people that take fender tags off cars. if you do let it go with the car. i will never understand why people do that. it is useless without the car!
trav

Tell me about it! The fender tag was removed from my car, as well as the buildsheet.  :brickwall:
Me2  :brickwall:

1969chargerrtse

And me.  But I finally don't care anymore. :icon_smile_dissapprove: ( kinda )
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

hemihead

Quote from: Fitz73Chrgr on February 08, 2008, 12:35:27 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on February 07, 2008, 11:02:17 PM
As the rightful owner, I think you should have gotten it free. Should be illegal to buy/sell those things, just like VIN plates.

I disagree, it only states the options the car came with, it has no legal use.  Not that it doesn't suck when it is separated from the car, but as far as making it illegal, there is no reason for that.
agree . I guess it only matters to people with the big $$$ cars . I 'm not trying to insult anyone . I 'm just not that impressed with the numbers thing . People worry about option codes and tags but then so call " restore " a car and leave off or add options as they please anyway .
  But hey if that tag makes you happy then congrats !!!   :2thumbs:
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Ghoste

Congrats man!  We were talking about your AAR fender tag not very long ago weren't we?

TUFCAT

Legal or not ...he was obviously trying to hide something by cutting of the VIN number....and should burn in Mopar Hell.  :flame:

Chad L. Magee

I usually take the fender tags off of my cars if they are being stored outside for any period of time.  They go into a nice firesafe that I have well hidden somewhere.  The reason I do this is simple: some of the locals have been known to swipe them and try to use the missing item as leverage when making an offer on the car (I have heard of this happening by someone who did this).  I don't want to give anyone a chance at doing that to me so I usually take them off, make fender tag rubbings, register them with TDC and then into the safe they go.  When the Charger is moved into indoor longterm storage, it regains the fender tag it came with and I still keep a fender tag rubbing in the safe just incase it does get swiped (so a correct repo can be made)........

As for the ebay purchase, nice find.  I got lucky a few years ago when searching for a project as I came across a 70 Charger parts car that had the orginal doors to my 1970 Charger RT installed.  (My 70 RT was partially parted out years ago and I have been looking for the orginal pieces since I got it.  I had heard that a local guy had the doors but did not want to give them up because they were on a 70 Charger that he had.)  I bought the car for $700, promptly removed the doors for storage, and stripped the rest of the usable parts.  The shell might still be restored later on as it does not have major rust/damage issues.  The second highest bidder had plans of flying in, cutting up the car and having the pieces shipped back to the east coast.  I was just happy that I could get the doors back.  Now if I could only get it's fender tag back............
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

chargerkid01

thats awsome you found it. for those who think fender tags are bs if didnt have mine for 69 charger I would have never found out it was a special ordered car. I bought it off a guy in odessa texas he new it was a completely numbers matching car but never ran the fender tag, when I bought it I had it ran. another thing I agree to some extent about people who worry about numbers then modify but at the same time part distributers offer safer upgrades and I feel that is the way to go!!

Shakey

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on February 07, 2008, 10:35:47 PM
Hey gang,just proves that finding a needle in a haystack is possible.I bought a matching number EV2  AAR in 02,came with the one owner orig title,but no fender tags.Guy,(flipper),I bought it from says he knew who had the tags,but was not going to give them up.Don't know the whole story why,but whatever.I had the car documented,and had the tags made,but the only wrong item is my sequence number,because I also do not have the BS(car had the wrong one in it),therefore is not correct.Wrote it off as to never to find or obtain,but as I do my e-bay searches for the cars I own,last sun,bam there is my fender tag with my vin # cut off.The second I saw it I knew it was mine as to where the auction is coming from,same cluster of towns in the area of that state.Orig owners address was blocks from where I sent the money to buy the car,and now the fender tag is blocks from that!!!!Six years later I have the chance to obtain!!! Of course I won it,received yesterday,and to put it in concrete,when the vin was cut off,they left about 1/16th of an inch of the numbers still exposed!!!!! :2thumbs:In person ,when reading it from the backside,you can clearly see the tops of the numbers of my vin!!!I have many ideas speculating why he cut it off,but I am just glad to have it now.These have been a great past few weeks for me,don't know what I did to deserve it,but first as you all have seen in my post,I found my dream charger ,a loaded 69 triple black R/T SE,then 1hot68(Brian),set me up with a friend of his who had a 69 440 HP date coded for this car,thanks again Brian,and then now this!!!Here is a pic of how I got the tag....

Great that you found the tag, now what about the other one? 

rusty lee

I'd play the lotto sounds like you got some luck. I took my tag off to decode it since it's so rusted I'll keep it off maybe get a new one.

Brock Samson

needle in a haystack...
"the harder you work... the better your luck becomes...  :2thumbs:

68RT4ME

Congrats on the finding of your tag. It's a small world after all. I recently sent my '69 off to the body shop but, not before taking the fender tag off of it. I wasn't necessarily looking for a numbers match car when I got it and that doesn't really matter much to me anyway but, it does matter to allot of people when they set out to buy a car and seems to add to the cars value whether we agree with that or not. Yes, I put mine away too and probably won't put it back on unless I sell the car which is unlikely anytime soon. I'll probably get a copy made and put that on it.

Your AAR is now more valueable as a result of your find. I think it sucks you had to buy it back but very happy you did get it back..  :2thumbs:
'69 Charger R/T, T5, Tan Top, Tan Interior, Black Stripe. Complete numbers matching 440 4Spd

1970 RT/SE


41husk

my 73 Rallye was missing the fender tag as well,  I wish I could retrieve it. Congratulation! I hope they diddn't kill you on the price.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

moparstuart

Quote from: 1970 RT/SE on February 08, 2008, 01:03:45 PM
Thats a rare AAR,bench seat and column shift !!!
there was an AAR bench column shift running around kansas city in the 80's never have seen another one ever.
 
 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Charger_Fan

Congrats to you, you must be livin' right these days! :icon_smile_cool:
You didn't have to pay $400 or anything equally rediculous for it, did you? Regardless, it's cool that you were able to obtain another piece of it's pedigree. :2thumbs:

BTW, any pics of the car? :icon_smile_big:

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: 1970 RT/SE on February 08, 2008, 01:03:45 PM
Thats a rare AAR,bench seat and column shift !!!
Don't know if you did'nt see the C55 on the tag, but that is bucket seats,and yes on the column.

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on February 08, 2008, 02:39:24 PM
Congrats to you, you must be livin' right these days! :icon_smile_cool:
You didn't have to pay $400 or anything equally rediculous for it, did you? Regardless, it's cool that you were able to obtain another piece of it's pedigree. :2thumbs:

BTW, any pics of the car? :icon_smile_big:

          A bank breaking $56.00 !!!!! It's not restored yet,got to finish the blue charger first(close),then my black one,then this , here are a couple of pics anyway.

1970 RT/SE

My Bad! Congrats on finding the tag. What a cool combo . Not many AAr's out there that have those options. I love seenig AAr's with vinyl tops, but then again I am a purist!!!!

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: 1970 RT/SE on February 08, 2008, 04:11:26 PM
My Bad! Congrats on finding the tag. What a cool combo . Not many AAr's out there that have those options. I love seenig AAr's with vinyl tops, but then again I am a purist!!!!
Not sure yet if I would put it back on or not,if I don't,it's not a big deal to add it later ,but if I put it on and don't like it,I'm stuck with it.Love reg cudas with vinyls but with the T/A cars the hood is already black contrasting with the body color,therefore the roof being black also is just to much for me.I've got time to decide.

Charger_Fan

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on February 08, 2008, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on February 08, 2008, 02:39:24 PM
Congrats to you, you must be livin' right these days! :icon_smile_cool:
You didn't have to pay $400 or anything equally rediculous for it, did you? Regardless, it's cool that you were able to obtain another piece of it's pedigree. :2thumbs:

BTW, any pics of the car? :icon_smile_big:
       
          A bank breaking $56.00 !!!!!
SWEET!! :icon_smile_big:
Looks like you've got a decent supply of projects in there, good lookin' cars. :cheers:  Is that a '70 GSX dressed in yellow?  :scope:

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

runningman


Just 6T9 CHGR

Wow Paul you really stepped in some stuff as of late...have you been playing the lotto as well?  Great news.

I recently got into a tift with a seller on eBay selling Broadcast Sheets...long story short these guys are only in it for the money...they don't care if someone uses these documents for possible illegal purposes.  At least your seller cut the VIN# off to try to avoid illegal practices but whatever....

Great find! :cheers:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


RT/SE

What a unique combo - EV2 AAR with a vinyl, bench seat and column shift.  It seems that most of the AAR's you see have no vinyl.  I love the column shift because it just doesn't seem it should naturally be there since the car was intended and designed for the Trans Am circuit.  I think the column shift makes it stand out from all the other floor shifted AAR's out there. 

69_500

Were they selling broadcast sheets to Chargers Chris? I don't recall seeing any on there lately. Must have missed those. I usually bid on fender tags and sheets to Chargers, but have yet to win many. None for any 500's or anything yet.

bzabodyn

Man... don't talk to me about people taking fender tags off cars!!!  :flame:
1969 Dodge Charger R/T - 426 HEMI/4 speed/Track Pack

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: RT/SE on February 08, 2008, 05:43:17 PM
What a unique combo - EV2 AAR with a vinyl, bench seat and column shift.  It seems that most of the AAR's you see have no vinyl.  I love the column shift because it just doesn't seem it should naturally be there since the car was intended and designed for the Trans Am circuit.  I think the column shift makes it stand out from all the other floor shifted AAR's out there. 
Though an e-body could have come with a bench seat,this is not one,I think you are reading to fast and not seeing the C55 code which is for bucket seats. Also,RT/SE the V88 code next to the V1X code on your tag is for stripe delete,NOT vinyl top delete. :nana:

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on February 08, 2008, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: RT/SE on February 08, 2008, 05:43:17 PM
What a unique combo - EV2 AAR with a vinyl, bench seat and column shift.  It seems that most of the AAR's you see have no vinyl.  I love the column shift because it just doesn't seem it should naturally be there since the car was intended and designed for the Trans Am circuit.  I think the column shift makes it stand out from all the other floor shifted AAR's out there. 
             Though an e-body could have come with a bench seat,this is not one,I think you are reading to fast and not seeing the C55 code which is for bucket seats. Also,RT/SE the V88 code next to the V1X code on your tag is for stripe delete,NOT vinyl top delete. :nana:

Thats AWESOME!!  :slap:  :rofl:  :smilielol:  :yesnod:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

RT/SE

Thanks Galen Jr. for the fender tag clarification.  Now a true purist, who is pure like the mountain snow, would definitely keep that AAR 100% original.   :D

69 OUR/TEA

     You're right,as I also think a true purist would definitely keep a triple black 69 RT/SE 4spd,dana, stripe delete car original without deleting or ADDING any options.

MsMopar

Wow! What a great find! :cheers: I hate it when the tags are gone off cars. Without the build sheet your screwed if your trying to restore it to original. That is only a recent bad habit, not so long ago a car could be stripped clean in a junk yard but still have it's fender tag. I think that a lot of times people are taking it off to keep it safe, but manage to lose it over the years. Then they decide to sell the car. It needs to stay with the car.  MsMopar

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: MsMopar on February 09, 2008, 09:50:48 AM
Wow! What a great find! :cheers: I hate it when the tags are gone off cars. Without the build sheet your screwed if your trying to restore it to original. That is only a recent bad habit, not so long ago a car could be stripped clean in a junk yard but still have it's fender tag. I think that a lot of times people are taking it off to keep it safe, but manage to lose it over the years. Then they decide to sell the car. It needs to stay with the car.  MsMopar
Thanks MsMopar,but don't know what you mean by being screwed if trying to restore to original?Having the fender tag verifys all the colors and options the car has,amongst that the car is still all together to see what it had.I think there are more cars out there that do not have their BS's,as to the ones that do.My car is in the transamcuda registry,and at this time they have approx 140 or so BS's that are available to the rightful owners with proof of ownership.I found a mint BS in my car,but it was for a FJ6 4psd car,and was 140 #'s down from my vin,like anyone of us should do they have it on file for the owner of it.Alot of the AAR's have had the wrong BS put in them,as they were coming down the line,if a worker saw that my car was to have a black int,he grabbed a set of seats on the floor and shoved them in,they are not going to look at the BS to see if it was right.This is why most of the cars with say red or blue  int had the correct BS's,as they could have been only that set sitting there waiting to be installed.

MsMopar

I was very lucky that as rough as my 500 was, it still had the fender tag and build sheet in it. I also count my blessings that even though my numbers matching engine was separated from the body for 10 years, it stayed with the numbers matching tranny. I don't think any less of a car that is missing the BS or tag but it is nice to have them. Many people have cars that were always in good shape, my cars usually start out pretty rough with a lot of parts missing.  ::) MsMopar

bill440rt

FANTASTIC, Paul!!!!  :notworthy:

That is awesome news! At least something worked out right for a change, eh?  :2thumbs:
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BROCK

Interesting discusion about fender tags.  Aren't the only things that make the car special from the factory the 'S' & the 'J'  in BS23J0B.......? 
Those letters are in the VIN.  Anything else, like a fender tag, build sheet etc is just gravy.  I like gravy :icon_smile_big:
Congradulations :2thumbs:

Yeah, my tags & build sheets are tucked away & my cars are registered too.  I can't imagine selling - but if I did:  the stuff for the car goes
with the car.

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Steve P.

Wow,  what are the chances?? Great find. I wish I could find my BS and F-Tag. The guy I bought my 65' from says he gave ME the F-tag with the title. I was in such a hurry to load the car up I made sure I had the title and didn't think to check the tag. I knew he had it and didn't MAKE SURE I received it..  :icon_smile_dead:

Great find....    :2thumbs:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida