2009 Charger?

[FastbackJon]

As much as we all hate the 2006-2008 Charger (though this thread is not about that), I'm sitting here wondering what the next generation of Charger will look like. They have already run the same exact car for three model years now, I wonder if the 2009 model year (due out end of 2008) will just be a re-hash or possibly something better?

[JR]

From what little I've heard of it, it seems like it will be a more aggressive looking bulked up sedan. As if the current one had a steroid shot.

I eager to see it. It cant be any worse than the current one. I'd love to have a new 6 cylinder daily driver Charger, but I cant bring myself to shell out so much money for the butt ugly one we have now.

[Mopar2Ya]

I did a check on the web site, no info. yet about it, so theres your answer. We plan to buy one when we move. Wife wants the SRT and hopefully they'll have one available when that time comes.
Mark

Edit: before you freak. I'd buy it because its AWD w/425 H.P. and four 4 doors, two kids w/the wife and I. Is it a true charger, no, but I'll be passing you on the highway!

The LX SRT8's are only RWD. The WK/GC SRT8 is the only AWD SRT vehicle. The R/T Charger 5.7L is available AWD. 

[HAZZARDJOHN]

I'd be worried about it for this reason:

http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/14532/bye-bye-to-gms-v-8s.html

^ I know this article is specific to GM, but it affects all car companies


35 MPG mandate by 2011. I think the fun is about over. 

~HJ

[69bronzeT5]

More of this....



And less of this...




The new Charger is a good looking car (especially the SRT-8s)...but they shouldnt have the name Charger.

[hemihead]

The Creeder is just simply ugly . Maybe the American Chrysler can get it right next time . A friend had a loaner V- 6 and said it runs like a 3 legged dog . Besides , like mentioned above , the V - 8 may be seeing it's final days .

[tkkruzer]

  it may not be a charger by our standards but I bought one and am happy as can be with it. its an R/T and it runs awsomely if thats a word. call it what you want but its a far cry from any foreign car, and a pleasure to drive.  thats my story and i'm stickin to it 

[Brock Samson]

guess you missed T/3s thread,..
I dunno if i belive all his info though,..
  There's some stuff on ALLPAR about it,.. seems the new owners have pretty much everything up for review - soup to nuts, but you can count a lot of attention going into the interior materials, in fact their Plastics Vendor went belly up this week.. Can't imagine why.. 


http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=100693

[dukeboy_318]

i dont think that v8 has or will see its last days just yet, i mean, people used to say 15 miles per gallon from a v8 was impossible, and look what we have do day.  im sure somebody has a plan out there to make it pus 35 miles to gallon, maybe a cylinder cutout system, heck my uncles charger(07) gets 19 highway and he drivers faster then i do, heck that speedo seldom goes beneath 85 mph. just my 

[hemihead]

Cadillac tried a cylinder cut out system , not a smart idea . Try pulling a couple plugs wires off your Charger , you will get the idea . Besides, an engine dragging a couple dead pistons isn't great for gas mileage .

[Shakey]

Yep - it's been about two weeks - time for another bash fest!   

Something I saw in someone's signature line once:

"cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it"

[NMike]

Cadillac tried a cylinder cut out system , not a smart idea . Try pulling a couple plugs wires off your Charger , you will get the idea . Besides, an engine dragging a couple dead pistons isn't great for gas mileage .

i guess you've never driven a MDS equipped car. other than a slight bog when you step back on the pedal, you won't even notice. it doesn't kill one cylinder dead, it alternates which ones for how long.

comparing the new system to the old Cadillac 4-6-8 is like comparing a flathead ford to a 426 hemi.

[MattAShine]

Well, hey look at it this way, at least now they are making the new Chargers the same LENGTH of the older ones.

[Rack]

2009 Charger?

You mean Dodge is finally bringing the charger back?

It's about time! Hell, it's only been like, what, 30 something years?

[Mike DC]

I believe Chrysler is finally sold on doing a retro-Charger, but I think it's too early to expect it now. 

The first restyle effort after a major one is usually just some resculpting of the bolt-on panels without cutting into the basic unibody itself.  I'd be surprised if the Chagnum's next restyle is any more than that. 

The 2006 model-year styling creation wasn't very long ago, and they always try to recoup their tooling expenses for at least a FEW years no matter how big a flop it was.   Even the Pontiac Aztek stuck it out for several years after being totally slaughtered in the press a lot worse than the Chagnum from day one. 

 

[TheGhost]

I don't see it becoming the large 2 door car you all want, simply because of the Challenger.  But, I do see a sedan with some retro styling being plausible.

[472 R/T SE]

Yep - it's been about two weeks - time for another bash fest!   

Something I saw in someone's signature line once:

"cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it"

  Someone mentioned a while back it's always the haters who are so worried about the new CHARGER.

It seems Chrysler knew exactly what they were doing.  The market for the car far exceeds any discontent the old car enthusiasts' may have.  I don't know how anyone can consider it a flop with these numbers.  I realize there's fleet, police percentages accounting for some of the numbers, but they are what they are, numbers, and that's what counts the most. 

http://www.lxforums.com/board/lx_sales.php

[hemihead]

Yep - it's been about two weeks - time for another bash fest!   

Something I saw in someone's signature line once:

"cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it"

  Someone mentioned a while back it's always the haters who are so worried about the new CHARGER.

It seems Chrysler knew exactly what they were doing.  The market for the car far exceeds any discontent the old car enthusiasts' may have.  I don't know how anyone can consider it a flop with these numbers.  I realize there's fleet, police percentages accounting for some of the numbers, but they are what they are, numbers, and that's what counts the most. 

http://www.lxforums.com/board/lx_sales.php

If the sales are so great how come they have to just about beg people to buy them ? Look at all the Creeders for sale on Ebay for example . The only people that want to believe that Creeders are popular cars are the ones who bought them . 

[bull]

Yep - it's been about two weeks - time for another bash fest!   

Something I saw in someone's signature line once:

"cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it"

  Someone mentioned a while back it's always the haters who are so worried about the new CHARGER.

I don't think the "haters" are any more worried about the new "Charger" than those who've taken up its cause.

[472 R/T SE]

If the sales are so great how come they have to just about beg people to buy them ? Look at all the Creeders for sale on Ebay for example . The only people that want to believe that Creeders are popular cars are the ones who bought them . 

All the big 3 are offering incentives to move their rigs, nothing new there.

8 pages of the new Mustangs on ebay.  2 pages of new Chargers.  I realize the cars were built for different demographics and there were more Ferds built initially but what is there to compare it to.

I don't own one and know several other folks that don't who aren't so shallow minded as to see the car is a hit.  It's not?  Well then I guess the 300 wasn't a hit either.

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I'm not bad mouthing black '68 Chargers.  At the sake of sounding like a hypocrite, I wanna say life's too short to worry about the name put on a car.  So Chrysler whored out the name, bfd.  Some folks like both versions, to me it's no different than someone taking shots at a '70.       I don't know that I've taken up a cause so much, more like defending my tastes.

[hemihead]

You have the right to defend you own tastes , I have no problem with that . But IMO calling the Creeder a success based on sales figures doesn't paint a complete and fair picture . I think that for every Creeder sold , there is 3 - 4 people who thinks it is a deformed step child . This car was also designed by a company owned by Daimler which nobody had any good words to say about . To call this car ( or the 300 for that matter ) a Mopar is like calling a Mazda a Mustang . Now we have a Challenger coming out that is German designed( again by a Company everyone hated )  with the antique Creeder chassis and everyone drools over it( Remember , Daimler said 2 doors don't sell ) .

[Khyron]

I'm not going to pick on the new .... creeder.


But I am going to buy a Ford Mustang. That car is dead sexy :drool:

[bull]

At the sake of sounding like a hypocrite, I wanna say life's too short to worry about the name put on a car.  So Chrysler whored out the name, bfd. I don't know that I've taken up a cause so much, more like defending my tastes.

That said, why is it ok to defend your tastes but not ok to defend the Charger name?

[Rack]

That new car looks "ok", but it's not a charger. Not a REAL charger.



That would also be the case if they started making 4 door "Mustangs", or 4 door Vipers, or 4 door Challengers, or 4 door camaros, etc...


If they wanted to called it "Charger 4D" or "Charger II" I'd be almost ok with that, but don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining (aka calling that thing a charger).

[Shakey]

I can't f'ing believe the same $hit is being spewed for the last two, perhaps three years now.       Don't you folks get tired of hearing yourselves.     The names that are thrown around and the coments about real Chargers - geesh, these are about as funny as the "not jokes" that still linger like a bad smell from the Wayne's World days of 1991 and the "yeah baby" lines from Austin Powers in 1997 that seem to never go away.  (is there a smiley guy on his knees praying to Allah, Budah or whatever God can help?)

Time to move - wouldn't you all agree?  (how 'bout a smiley of a guy begging for mercy)