Anyone know of a 69 C500 4-speed for sale?

[RAC95054]

Hi.  I know this isn't a "topic", and I did post the question in the Classifiends already, but I figured who would know better where to find a 69 C500 than the Aero guys.     I am also a member on moparts.com (70B7GTX) and searched there, but this site seemed more focused.

Anyhow,  I've been looking to get a '69 Charger 500 4-speed for a while now, and it seems they aren't coming up very often.  I almost had a deal on one last year but it fell through (I'm sure that owner is on this forum somewhere).  Anyhow, my main requirements are that it be an original 4-speed car, in at least driveable condition, but one that is complete or nearly so would be better.  A 440 would be a better candidate than a Hemi (only because it would be cheaper and I'm a man of limited means).   I'll gladly pay a finders fee if anyone can lead me to a car that I end up purchasing.  The more original the car, the better, and the more paperwork it has the better.

Thanks!
-Russ

[69_500]

I am not sure if Ed is still thinking of selling his HEMI 4 speed C 500 or not. I know that he had made mention of it at one time on this board. Other than that I can't think of any 4 speed 500's that are up for sale at the current time. another gentleman had thought about selling his 4 speed 500, but I think that he has since changed his mind.

[RAC95054]

Thanks for the post.  Hopefully one will turn up eventually... one I can keep a long time and eventually get my son hooked on Mopars and pass it on to him. 

[69_500]

Well if you have a wing car to trade then Troy would gladly part with his 4 speed Charger 500. HEMICharger68 that is.

[RAC95054]

Well if you have a wing car to trade then Troy would gladly part with his 4 speed Charger 500. HEMICharger68 that is.

Yes, Troy's car is the deal that fell through for me.  He was trying to work with another guy for the Daytona as part of a 3-way deal, but it seems those two couldn't come to terms, and I ended up being the odd man out.      I guess it's a question of how bad does he want one.  I know he isn't into the C500 and 68 Hemi car for very much, so most of what he'd get for selling them would be a nice profit, and I'm sure would be enough to get him a Daytona.  There is a guy in my area with a mostly original red/black Daytona,  and he isn't asking a lot of money for it (relatively speaking).  I believe I even mentioned this to Troy before. 

[69_500]

Well to be honest with you, I'd part with my 500 in a heartbeat for a Daytona as well. But then again my car isn't a 4 speed, its an AT car.

[RAC95054]

Well to be honest with you, I'd part with my 500 in a heartbeat for a Daytona as well. But then again my car isn't a 4 speed, its an AT car.

Maybe I should buy the Daytona, then work on doing a trade.    But my garage is too small to keep it in there in the time being!  Unless I take off the nose cone. 

[moparstuart]

Well to be honest with you, I'd part with my 500 in a heartbeat for a Daytona as well. But then again my car isn't a 4 speed, its an AT car.

Maybe I should buy the Daytona, then work on doing a trade.    But my garage is too small to keep it in there in the time being!  Unless I take off the nose cone. 

or tell me where it is so i can buy it !

[69_500]

Hey don't go cutting in line. 


Ah who am I kidding, I can't afford a Daytona right now anyways. But boy oh boy, do I ever want one.

[moparstuart]

Hey don't go cutting in line. 


Ah who am I kidding, I can't afford a Daytona right now anyways. But boy oh boy, do I ever want one.

we would have to pool our money I'm sure anyway LOL

[RAC95054]

or tell me where it is so i can buy it !

I'll check to make sure the guy still has it, and what he's looking to get for it now.  It's a 440 auto, red/black, one dealer repaint (after the nose cone got crunched in 1970), and dealer-installed A/C added.  Really low milage too, I believe.

[69_500]

Hey how about me, you and Troy go in 1/3rds on a Daytona. Troy can keep the car from November thru February. I'll hang on to it from March thru June, and then you can keep it from July thru October.

[RAC95054]

   Good idea!  Who has the trailer to shuttle it around?  Then Troy can buy me out later with his C500.

[Magnumcharger]

Here's a red Daytona for sale...
http://www.cuda1.com/69_daytona.htm

[moparstuart]

Hey how about me, you and Troy go in 1/3rds on a Daytona. Troy can keep the car from November thru February. I'll hang on to it from March thru June, and then you can keep it from July thru October.

i'm in for that

[moparstuart]

Here's a red Daytona for sale...
http://www.cuda1.com/69_daytona.htm

i'd take that one also     how much

[BigBlockSam]

 

[hemi68charger]

Here's a red Daytona for sale...
http://www.cuda1.com/69_daytona.htm

That thing's been on there for awhile.. I emailed him but had no reply.... I would gladly trade my C500 and Hemi '68 for a Daytona and some cash. The problem with selling one out right before you have something lined up in concrete is if "something" happens, I've lost two great cars............. Right now, there's another deal in the workings, but I have to sell the '68 Hemi first...  I would love for me to get a Daytona and then find a good home for Dana. Now matter how much I'm into them, profit margin still has to be a Daytona...

Soo, I could be the fair weather owner of a Daytona with ya Danny?   

Good luck on the search Russ; been there, done that.. So I know EXACTLY what you're going through.........

[69_500]

Hey Troy, if you finally end up with a Daytona, and don't want Dana anymore let me know. Everyone knows I wanted a Daytona instead of a 500, and everyone knows I'd much rather have a 4 speed car than the AT I have.

[RAC95054]

I would gladly trade my C500 and Hemi '68 for a Daytona and some cash. The problem with selling one out right before you have something lined up in concrete is if "something" happens, I've lost two great cars............. Right now, there's another deal in the workings, but I have to sell the '68 Hemi first...  I would love for me to get a Daytona and then find a good home for Dana. Now matter how much I'm into them, profit margin still has to be a Daytona...

Soo, I could be the fair weather owner of a Daytona with ya Danny?   

Good luck on the search Russ; been there, done that.. So I know EXACTLY what you're going through.........

I've been trying to figure out a good way to go about making a deal happen, but it seems at least 4 interested parties need to get involved.  1) Someone that wants to sell a Daytona  2) Someone that wants to buy a '68 Hemi Charger 3)Someone who wants to buy the Daytona 4) Someone who wants to buy a 69 C500.

Well, I know of #1 (the guy local to me), #3 (that's you, Troy) and #4 (that would be me).  So if you had a buyer for the Hemi, Troy, then we could start talking some numbers.  Then I could buy the Daytona, you'd sell me the C500 and someone else would get the Hemi Charger, and I'd get some extra cash from that.  So if you really want a Daytona, and can line up a buyer for your Hemi, then let's see what we can work out from there.  We can take this discussion offline at that point (do you still have my email address?).

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I've been trying to figure out a good way to go about making a deal happen, but it seems at least 4 interested parties need to get involved.  1) Someone that wants to sell a Daytona  2) Someone that wants to buy a '68 Hemi Charger 3)Someone who wants to buy the Daytona 4) Someone who wants to buy a 69 C500.

Well, I know of #1 (the guy local to me), #3 (that's you, Troy) and #4 (that would be me).  So if you had a buyer for the Hemi, Troy, then we could start talking some numbers.  Then I could buy the Daytona, you'd sell me the C500 and someone else would get the Hemi Charger, and I'd get some extra cash from that.  So if you really want a Daytona, and can line up a buyer for your Hemi, then let's see what we can work out from there.  We can take this discussion offline at that point (do you still have my email address?).

Wow... almost need a flow chart for that deal!  I have found it almost impossible to work out trade deals on these $100K Mopars... it was a lot easier when they were $5K.  At one time I even considered trying to find a 3 project car for a turn-key Daytona trade, but finally a few months ago I opened my present money pit on my C500.  Even with people with the best intentions, a 3-way or 4-way deal would would be almost impossible to work out... there are always friends telling the potential traders that they are getting a bad deal... 

Allen

[RAC95054]

Yes, it's far more complicated than it should be.  I just want a C500 4-speed.  Little did I know it was giong to be such a tall order to fill. 

[RAC95054]

Wow... almost need a flow chart for that deal!  I have found it almost impossible to work out trade deals on these $100K Mopars... it was a lot easier when they were $5K.  At one time I even considered trying to find a 3 project car for a turn-key Daytona trade, but finally a few months ago I opened my present money pit on my C500.  Even with people with the best intentions, a 3-way or 4-way deal would would be almost impossible to work out... there are always friends telling the potential traders that they are getting a bad deal... 

Allen

I just noticed the long thread of the resto on your C500, Allen.  That car will be beautiful (and one of the perfect combos in my book) when finished.    Wanna sell it to me when it's done?  I'd absolutely love it!!  Plus, you have too many other cars to deal with.  Right? 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Yes, it's far more complicated than it should be.  I just want a C500 4-speed.  Little did I know it was giong to be such a tall order to fill. 

Depending on who you ask there were only 26-75 or so factory 4 Speed C500s...  but it might turn out like the 1970 Six Pack Charger where the early estimates on production numbers were waaaay off.  Still, it seems that there were a lot more automatic C500s built!

Good Luck on your quest!

Allen

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I just noticed the long thread of the resto on your C500, Allen.  That car will be beautiful (and one of the perfect combos in my book) when finished.    Wanna sell it to me when it's done?  I'd absolutely love it!!  Plus, you have too many other cars to deal with.  Right? 

Thanks, I will be sooooooo glad when its done!  I think it will be a looker when done, but I am gonna drive it!  I have been surprised by the number of folks that want to buy the old gal, C500s used to not get that much respect (except the Hemi powered ones).

I going to keep it after its done, local guys are tired of seeing my `Cuda at shows/cruises!  And yes, I have too many cars to deal with... without a doubt!  I am planning to sell some in the near future, starting with the 1973 Charger SE 440 car & later some E-Bodies...

Allen

[hemi68charger]

I've been trying to figure out a good way to go about making a deal happen, but it seems at least 4 interested parties need to get involved.  1) Someone that wants to sell a Daytona  2) Someone that wants to buy a '68 Hemi Charger 3)Someone who wants to buy the Daytona 4) Someone who wants to buy a 69 C500.

Well, I know of #1 (the guy local to me), #3 (that's you, Troy) and #4 (that would be me).  So if you had a buyer for the Hemi, Troy, then we could start talking some numbers.  Then I could buy the Daytona, you'd sell me the C500 and someone else would get the Hemi Charger, and I'd get some extra cash from that.  So if you really want a Daytona, and can line up a buyer for your Hemi, then let's see what we can work out from there.  We can take this discussion offline at that point (do you still have my email address?).

Wow... almost need a flow chart for that deal! 

Allen

Ain't that no lie.................  That last deal I had a while back ago, included a '68 Hemi Superbee, the yellow one out of California... But, that was the tooth in the gears that broke down and caused the deal to fall...............  Regarding my current situation, all this revolves around the '68 and what I can get from it after I get her back from the paint shop... The current "situation" is a strong one, but as one would expect, the C500 and the '68 would have to go bye-bye... I'm hoping for some extra cash left over to get another Mopar, obviously one of less rarity than what I currently have... Then I could also start working on my '70 v-code...........

Russ, if the current thing doesn't pan out, then we can still communicate... Talk is free.....  My email is in my profile I believe.. I don't believe I have yours.. I remember some correspondence was happening when I was in Iraq and prior to that..

Allen, I know exactly what you're talking about when it comes to best intentions and friends always giving you their two cents.. I had that when I traded my first running/driving '70 v-code Charger R/T for my current '68 project.. People thought I was nuts........  But, alas, I'll soon have a freshly painted '68 Hemi Charger R/T and another '70 v-code Charger R/T just like my old one............ I believe you remember that car.. There are very few people that remember that car other than the magazine spread since a private collector bought it from Tom and it's disappeared off the radar.........

T

[hemi68charger]

Hey Troy, if you finally end up with a Daytona, and don't want Dana anymore let me know. Everyone knows I wanted a Daytona instead of a 500, and everyone knows I'd much rather have a 4 speed car than the AT I have.

Danny,,, unfortunately, if I do get a Daytona, it'll be at   Dana's expense...................  Unless I win the lotto........   

[PocketThunder]

Russ, how about finding an automatic C500 and doing a 4-speed conversion?  Or 5-speed conversion? 

I have the numbers matching auto for my car and i could care less if it goes back in.  I want to bang thru the gears baby!!!   

[hemi68charger]

Russ, how about finding an automatic C500 and doing a 4-speed conversion?  Or 5-speed conversion? 

I have the numbers matching auto for my car and i could care less if it goes back in.  I want to bang thru the gears baby!!!   

Kinda of what I'm doing on the v-code.......   

[RAC95054]

Russ, how about finding an automatic C500 and doing a 4-speed conversion?  Or 5-speed conversion? 

I have the numbers matching auto for my car and i could care less if it goes back in.  I want to bang thru the gears baby!!!   

I've thought about that, too, and I even have an extra 18-spline tranny right now, but I'm partial to the originality factor.  If worse comes to worse, I can go that route later (I hope). 

Troy, I believe you can get my email from my profile too, but it's rac95054@hotmail.com, so you don't have to dig it out.  I wasn't sure in your last post if you meant you have someone interested in your Hemi or not.  Is that the case?

[69_500]

All I know is that I spent a good many years looking for any Charger 500 or project Daytona that I could afford. I wasn't picky with either, as long as I could afford it. Which is how I wound up with the 500 I have now, it was one I could afford.

[RAC95054]

I know what you are saying.  If I didn't have another car now (my '70 GTX), I'd probably be more loose on my requirements for the C500, but as it is, I'd like to hold off for a real 4-speed, at least for a while.  If nothing comes up in the next 3-6 months, I'll have to take it from there.  So please keep me in mind if you come across one! 

[69_500]

No problem, but I gotta admit that if there is a 4 speed Charger 500 that comes up for sale and I can afford it, you'll have to wait in line. No offense made, but I want one too. Then again I want a lot of things, but can seldom afford any of them. So the line isn't very long, seems the line continues to pass me by.

[Moparmatty]

Russ, how about finding an automatic C500 and doing a 4-speed conversion?  Or 5-speed conversion? 

I have the numbers matching auto for my car and i could care less if it goes back in.  I want to bang thru the gears baby!!!   

Kinda of what I'm doing on the v-code.......   

And me with my'70 V Code Runner

500"  Six-Pack, 5spd!

[gtx6970]

I know what you are saying.  If I didn't have another car now (my '70 GTX), I'd probably be more loose on my requirements for the C500, but as it is, I'd like to hold off for a real 4-speed, at least for a while.  If nothing comes up in the next 3-6 months, I'll have to take it from there.  So please keep me in mind if you come across one! 

ck your pm

[69_500]

OOOOOOOO, I'll bet I know which one Bill is PM about. Be prepared to talk on the phone for a VERY long time. 

[gtx6970]

OOOOOOOO, I'll bet I know which one Bill is PM about. Be prepared to talk on the phone for a VERY long time. 

Yep, the bronze one. Last time I talked to him he was thinking about offing the both of them. BUT you and I both know he can change his mind in a seconds.


Personally , I'd love to have the R6 red car myself

[69_500]

I've tried for many years to buy those car, as I'm sure you have too Bill. I tried for probably 8 years to buy his Daytona before he sold it.

Everytime I think I'm getting close, the door closes.

[hemi68charger]

I've tried for many years to buy those car, as I'm sure you have too Bill. I tried for probably 8 years to buy his Daytona before he sold it.

Everytime I think I'm getting close, the door closes.

Me too, not those, but others........................   My nose is starting to get sore....................

[BigBlockSam]

Everytime I think I'm getting close, the door closes. 

that's how i feel about getting a real bird

[PocketThunder]

Everytime I think I'm getting close, the door closes. 

that's how i feel about getting a real bird

I'll give you a real bird.....                   

[Magnumcharger]

Here's an original Charger 500 for sale. Just needs to be assembled....
http://cgi.ebay.com/39-year-old-IMC-1969-Dodge-Charger-500_W0QQitemZ310019447148QQihZ021QQcategoryZ145967QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[BigBlockSam]

I'll give you a real bird.....   

[Beep Beep Dave]

I've tried for many years to buy those car, as I'm sure you have too Bill. I tried for probably 8 years to buy his Daytona before he sold it.

Everytime I think I'm getting close, the door closes.

Me too, not those, but others........................   My nose is starting to get sore....................

Looks to be a bit browner than usual too

Dave

[69_500]

Ah but then the question looms as to if the model on Ebay is a 4 speed car or not. It should be seeing as how it is a Grand national car, but you know how those model companies take liberties in doing things.

[hemi68charger]

I've tried for many years to buy those car, as I'm sure you have too Bill. I tried for probably 8 years to buy his Daytona before he sold it.

Everytime I think I'm getting close, the door closes.

Me too, not those, but others........................   My nose is starting to get sore....................

Looks to be a bit browner than usual too

Dave

You're definitely color blind......   

[mtr]

Here's a red Daytona for sale...
http://www.cuda1.com/69_daytona.htm

how much for that one?

[hemi68charger]

Here's a red Daytona for sale...
http://www.cuda1.com/69_daytona.htm

how much for that one?

Not sure, but it's been on that website for years..........  Don't know what came of it... I've emailed recently with no reply........

[als500]

Hi there I'm new to the site, I have a charger 500 440/4 speed , 3 build sheet and all paperwork when it new. The charger was sold new at Stanley Dodge National City, California on March 21, 1969. The color is F8 dark green with white stripe green interior all matching numbers. I have the original California tag that was issue in 1969, which is a black plate along with the California registration. The car is in mint condition. Its a cool car..

[RAC95054]

Hi there I'm new to the site, I have a charger 500 440/4 speed , 3 build sheet and all paperwork when it new. The charger was sold new at Stanley Dodge National City, California on March 21, 1969. The color is F8 dark green with white stripe green interior all matching numbers. I have the original California tag that was issue in 1969, which is a black plate along with the California registration. The car is in mint condition. Its a cool car..

Welcome!  Does you post here mean you want to sell it??     If so, I'm all ears!  I'm looking into a couple auto cars right now, but the 4-speed is what I'm really after.  Is the car still here on the West Coast?  -Russ

[als500]

Hi there I'm new to the site, I have a charger 500 440/4 speed , 3 build sheet and all paperwork when it new. The charger was sold new at Stanley Dodge National City, California on March 21, 1969. The color is F8 dark green with white stripe green interior all matching numbers. I have the original California tag that was issue in 1969, which is a black plate along with the California registration. The car is in mint condition. Its a cool car..

Welcome!  Does you post here mean you want to sell it??     If so, I'm all ears!  I'm looking into a couple auto cars right now, but the 4-speed is what I'm really after.  Is the car still here on the West Coast?  -Russ

The charger live in Florida now.

[BigBlockSam]

hey AL , every time i see your car i like it even more. 

[als500]

hey AL , every time i see your car i like it even more. 

Thanks for the compliment on the Mopar, she's my baby..

[RAC95054]

I guess now that I let the green/green auto car pass by, I'll once again activate my post here, since I'm still seraching for a 4-speed C500.   Any leads anyone??  Help.... please...   

[69_500]

You have officially passed on the AT car in phoenix?

[RAC95054]

You have officially passed on the AT car in phoenix?

Yes, I believe runninhorn has already made a deposit on it, and it sounds like the car is going to a good family.  Hopefully I didn't make a big mistake here, but I'd like to think me being patient and holding out will help me find the car I really, really want.

-Russ

[runninhorn]

Russ, how about finding an automatic C500 and doing a 4-speed conversion?  Or 5-speed conversion? 

I have the numbers matching auto for my car and i could care less if it goes back in.  I want to bang thru the gears baby!!!   

Tremec TKO 5 speed is what im going for 

[BigBlockSam]

nice Avatar

[RAC95054]

Tremec TKO 5 speed is what im going for 

So you are doing a conversion.  That will certainly make it more fun to drive!  Assuming the tranny in it now is original, be sure to store it in a good place, and service it before you do (change fluid, filter). 

[runninhorn]

Tremec TKO 5 speed is what im going for 

So you are doing a conversion.  That will certainly make it more fun to drive!  Assuming the tranny in it now is original, be sure to store it in a good place, and service it before you do (change fluid, filter). 

yea, for sure. Still torn on what to do with it. I dont want to butcher a #'s car, but then again, I bought it to drive it and ive already done one Tremec conversion, only thing this one will be a auto to a manual and the last one was a manual to a manual. Thinking of yanking the 440 as well, maybe putting both in storage.

[PocketThunder]

Russ, how about finding an automatic C500 and doing a 4-speed conversion?  Or 5-speed conversion? 

I have the numbers matching auto for my car and i could care less if it goes back in.  I want to bang thru the gears baby!!!   

Tremec TKO 5 speed is what im going for 

Our cars will be twins then!   

[hemi68charger]

The 5-speed is a good idea.. I know whether I keep Dana or get the Daytona (which is  a 4-speed as well), I'd love to put the overdrive setup.. Definitely more fun on the streets/highways.................

[pettybird]

i'm warming to the idea to put a newer overdrive 833 in the bird.  the 5 speed thing means trimming the floor...

[Charger-Bodie]

i'm warming to the idea to put a newer overdrive 833 in the bird.  the 5 speed thing means trimming the floor...

The amount of work needed on the floor hump isnt much, it would be easily reversed later with a small patch, a little dollying and some paint.

If the xmember would have needed mods I wouldnt have done it.

[68RT4ME]

The 5-speed is a good idea.. I know whether I keep Dana or get the Daytona (which is  a 4-speed as well), I'd love to put the overdrive setup.. Definitely more fun on the streets/highways.................

Something other than STOCK? Are you feeling well? Doesn't sound like you to go with something other than stock...

[hemi68charger]

The 5-speed is a good idea.. I know whether I keep Dana or get the Daytona (which is  a 4-speed as well), I'd love to put the overdrive setup.. Definitely more fun on the streets/highways.................

Something other than STOCK? Are you feeling well? Doesn't sound like you to go with something other than stock...

Well, I have you for a friend, now don't I? Hell, since that's the case, I'm dealing with non-numbers matching as well..............   

I know, I'm such a punk...............

If I can keep the OEM look but with some late-model technology, I'm for it.....

[hemigeno]

If I can keep the OEM look but with some late-model technology, I'm for it.....

Would this work?

Passon Performance Overdrive Tranny .pdf Flyer

[hemi68charger]

If I can keep the OEM look but with some late-model technology, I'm for it.....

Would this work?

Passon Performance Overdrive Tranny .pdf Flyer

With extra cash, perfect !!!!    you running it Geno?

This way I could probably keep up with my Bro Andy...

[hemigeno]

No, I'm not running it, as both of my cars have 3.54s - a tolerable gear for me anyway.  If I did more really long road-trips with the car (maybe someday!), I might consider it.  Just the 2-hour trips I make now with it are alright.  I had also kicked around the idea of changing out one of the three 18-spline crashboxes I have with that gearset, and then just swapping out the tranny if I wanted to do some cruising.  Back in the day, I could have the transmission out of my car in 20 minutes (OK, so it was an aluminum-case Muncie from my Pontiac that I could install by hand without a tranny jack).

Yet another thing on my never-ending "To Do" list. 

[runninhorn]

With a Tremec TKO 5 speed tranny with OD, what rear gear would you guys go with? 3.91? or what?

[Charger-Bodie]

With a Tremec TKO 5 speed tranny with OD, what rear gear would you guys go with? 3.91? or what?

I have the tremec tko and a 3.54 dana 60 in mine with 27.5 tall tires and it works good.

It depends somewhat on what tire you will be running.

Also , tremec has different 1st gear options too so that also will come into play, If you are getting it from Kiesler they can make the reccomendation off youre info. 

[moparchris]

The 5-speeds have a steep first gear already,something like a 3:29 gear, in comparison to a 2:65 first gear in a hemi box. you don't need anything like a 3:91 to get the car moving.  3:55 at the most.  You'd blow through 1st gear instantly with a low rear gear.