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I know I will get killed, but.......Update

Started by devilgear, January 27, 2008, 10:39:43 PM

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devilgear

Is it possible to put a 275/40/20 tire on the back and a 245/45/20 on the front of a 1973 Charger? I got a good deal on some 2006 SRT 8 rims and was thinking of trying them on my 73. Would they work ya think? Actully I put one on the back and it looked cool, but I'm not sure about the front. If it makes a difference, the rims are 9" wide and I think the back spacing is 5.3. Anyone know? Thanks.

Charger1973

If you have the wheels there, I would just try it and see.  Take some pics too.  I know its not something id do to my car but im curious to see how it looks. 

Mike DC

What's the total diameter of the tires?  And the offset?    Those are the big questions. 


devilgear

I will get pictures soon. They look real good so far. I think the offset is 20mm. Thats what I have found so far. If I do keep them, I'm gonna have to lower the car alot. I have air shocks in the back now and when I put the 20" on I had to drop them all the way down and it still was high. The rims I wanted to get are about $5000 with tires, so this may be a great allternative if it works. Now I just have to sell my slots......HAHAHHAA

Nacho-RT74

I think 17" is the max limit for a good looking wheel/tires combo on a muscle  :Twocents:
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

devilgear

I know alot of people hate bigger rims on older cars,but I am going for a specific look. I don't adhear to any style or design. Much like music (been a musician for 30 years), it's the overall vibe I'm going for and not a time stamp. I will say that muscle cars are my # 1. I promice you this though,when this car is done, it will drop lot of jaws.

69bronzeT5

If you wanna see what they look like, go to http://www.newstalgiawheel.com/ and go to their "wheel visualizer". You can pick a '73, pick the colour of your car, pick tire and wheels sizes and if you pick "Bonspeed" wheels, there are some that look like SRT 8s. I tried doing it for you but I messed up.
Feature Editor for Mopar Connection Magazine
http://moparconnectionmagazine.com/



1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

devilgear

Yeah I go there quite a bit. Bonspeed's are what I was looking at too.You know Michael Anthony from VanHalen owns that company?

69bronzeT5

Quote from: devilgear on January 28, 2008, 01:59:22 AM
You know Michael Anthony from Van Halen owns that company?
That I did not!  :o
Feature Editor for Mopar Connection Magazine
http://moparconnectionmagazine.com/



1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

devilgear

Here is a photo with the back rim on. I did not have time to do the front s I just set it there.



Charger1973

It could look good with the right mods and paint.  I think if the car was left basically stock they would look out of place though. But it doesnt look too bad. 

bordin34

Looks a bit weird with those wheels on it. It looks like thy kinda fit but kinda don't the car needs something and once you find that something they will look killer.

1973 SE Brougham Black 4̶0̶0̶  440 Auto.
1967 Coronet Black 440 Auto
1974 SE Brougham Blue 318 Auto- Sold to a guy in Croatia
1974 Valiant Green 318 Auto - Sold to a guy in Louisiana
Mahwah,NJ

Mass_Mopar

I think they look great  :cheers: I love those SRT wheels I think they really nailed a good looking large 5 spoke design :2thumbs:
-Nick

70 Charger 500 383/833 pistol grip 3.91sg
71 New Yorker 440/Auto
04 Ram 5.7L 4x4 5spd 3.92 Auburn Posi
Old screen name MA_Young_Gun

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

terrible one

While we're on the topic of tire questions again. . .

Can I fit a 295/50 on a 15x8 wheel with 4.75" of backspacing in the rear of my '68? I have the little program thingy that will show you but it only alternates between 4.5" and 5" and it seems like it could fit if it fell in between there (just a bit overlapping the outer lip at 4.5". Anyone know?



0X01B8

Quote from: terrible one on January 30, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
While we're on the topic of tire questions again. . .

Can I fit a 295/50 on a 15x8 wheel with 4.75" of backspacing in the rear of my '68? I have the little program thingy that will show you but it only alternates between 4.5" and 5" and it seems like it could fit if it fell in between there (just a bit overlapping the outer lip at 4.5". Anyone know?

I'm getting almost the same combo but with zero offset  - 4.5" backspacing.  I think you'll probably be fine and so should I.  I'll know on Saturday afternoon for sure.  My current wheels are 5.75" backspacing but it's a 17x9.5 wheel with a 285/40 tire, which doesn't have so much sidewall.  They rubbed the inner wheelhouse once, I think, with me and 3 passengers.

Sounds like you're using my fitment page, http://vexer.com/68rt/wheelguide.html I can change it so the offset moves in 1/4" increments, but I might have lost the code... :-\

Mass_Mopar

I would go at least 5" BS.  I have 5" and I could've gone 5.5" and probably should have.  My 295/45/18s brush the wheelwell lip on hard compressions on 18x9.5" wheels.

-Nick

70 Charger 500 383/833 pistol grip 3.91sg
71 New Yorker 440/Auto
04 Ram 5.7L 4x4 5spd 3.92 Auburn Posi
Old screen name MA_Young_Gun

terrible one

Quote from: 0X01B8 on January 31, 2008, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: terrible one on January 30, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
While we're on the topic of tire questions again. . .

Can I fit a 295/50 on a 15x8 wheel with 4.75" of backspacing in the rear of my '68? I have the little program thingy that will show you but it only alternates between 4.5" and 5" and it seems like it could fit if it fell in between there (just a bit overlapping the outer lip at 4.5". Anyone know?

I'm getting almost the same combo but with zero offset  - 4.5" backspacing.  I think you'll probably be fine and so should I.  I'll know on Saturday afternoon for sure.  My current wheels are 5.75" backspacing but it's a 17x9.5 wheel with a 285/40 tire, which doesn't have so much sidewall.  They rubbed the inner wheelhouse once, I think, with me and 3 passengers.

Sounds like you're using my fitment page, http://vexer.com/68rt/wheelguide.html I can change it so the offset moves in 1/4" increments, but I might have lost the code... :-\

Yep, I've been using it! What a wonder! No worry about the code, just tell me how the 4.5" works! Hehe

Mass_Mopar, I don't think I need anywhere near that much backspacing as this wheel is 8" wide where yours is almost 10".

Mass_Mopar

Very true I missed that you are running 8"s  :cheers:

-Nick

70 Charger 500 383/833 pistol grip 3.91sg
71 New Yorker 440/Auto
04 Ram 5.7L 4x4 5spd 3.92 Auburn Posi
Old screen name MA_Young_Gun

terrible one

Quote from: Mass_Mopar on January 31, 2008, 05:34:37 PM
Very true I missed that you are running 8"s  :cheers:



All good man!

Yeah, I know that's kind of pushing it with the 295's but they'll look good bulging!

I think that it should work. As you and others have said, the 10's are generally being run with a 5- 5.5" backspace. 5.5" into 10" is 1.82", and 4.75" into 8" is 1.68", so if anything, they would be rubbing the inner side . . . I think? It's close. . .


SeattleCharger

They are good looking wheels,   the pic has the front wheel a little forward (turned to right pose) so it makes the car look a little different with the illusion of longer wheel base,  but overall I like em,
  can you get a pic from standing more back and to the side of car at an angle?      :2thumbs:


Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

devilgear

Yeah, I'm gonna put the front on saturday. I will put up a few more pictures too. I can't go much more back since I am standing in my doorway as it is, but I will try.

devilgear

Ok, got the front wheel on. A few observations are....These rims really change my stance. The car had the classic low in the front high in the back and now the car sits even. That I done like, but I can lower the car if I want I suppose. The car now sits much higher than it did before-good for the undercarridge, but bad for the "coolness" facter. I had to take the dustcap off the rotor to get it on and then the center cap off the rim too. That would have to be delt with before anything else. I also do not know if the wheels would rub or not when driving. Oh yeah, I would need new longer skinnier lug nuts. All of these things are not too bad of problems, but I just need to decied if I want thins look, or save up the $5K for the rims and tires I really do want. The plus side is these were made for the new Chargers and I have one of those too. They look killer on them. Either way it's all good. Here is a picture.

Charger1973

Not so sure about it.  I like the rims but I think the fronts need to be a little smaller to make it look good. 

devilgear

I know what you mean. I kida like it, but the front needs to be smaller. I like this look here. These are the rims I truly want. Bonspeed Huntingtons.This is 18/60-17/45. The back would be a bit higher and the front a little lower.

Charger1973


Bandit72

Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Tilar

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on January 30, 2008, 01:04:47 AM
"me no likey"

I agree with ya Bro... Looks like a tractor tire that someone ground the cleats off of.  :rotz: Course thats just my opinion..
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



71ChargerRT

Me likey, I had a '73 Chally that same color green in 95-96, and I had BIG, for the time, 16" wheels and it looked killer!!!  :drool5:


When my 68 'Cuda gets finished it'll have 19's & 20's  :coolgleamA:
Work in progress...

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Tilar on February 05, 2008, 06:14:25 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on January 30, 2008, 01:04:47 AM
"me no likey"

I agree with ya Bro... Looks like a tractor tire that someone ground the cleats off of.  :rotz: Course thats just my opinion..

put it on a railroad and you get a Mopar Locomotive ;D

imho, 17" MAX and get 28" as minimun tire diameter
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

mikesbbody

i pretty much agree with nacho i have seen members here with 17's on the front and 18's on the back which look good. probably not something i would ever do. I dont like the low profile tires do they go any taller than 50's (sidewall) ?

bigtimegameboards

Just curious if you ever did any driving with the wide front tires on?
I've got a 73 charger se that i want to put 17x9 torq thrusts on all 4, they have 4.5 backspacing, and want to make sure they fit on the front before i pull the trigger.
those wheels look awesome, i agree with you, maybe you could turn the torsion bars down in the front to get the ride height you want.


Nacho-RT74

get lowered tension to get lowered front end looks good, but in counterpart, having less tension will make bump out more the front end, so need to be take care about.

If is a small mod, will be good, but try to get it LOOOOWER is a no go. Better get first a harder T bars set and then get the low ride.

Plus get lowered front end will raise up also the rear end
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

BigBlackDodge


troy.70R/T

will 6 feet 5  inches x 3feet work for your coffin? If not that I am not big enough to give you any s___ lol. It dosent mater what anyone else thinks it you car.