Heath Ledger found dead this afternoon

[TUFCAT]

Chargerwife has a good point .....these "drug cocktails" can be very dangerous.  Just look at Elvis, who was a "pioneer" of perscription drug abuse!  Elvis has no illegal drugs in his system when he died.... but had ingested enough perscriptions to empty a few shelves at your local CVS!

Personally, I think this Ledger dude was seriously depressed which led him to an intentional overdose. My guess is either he didn't care enough to be concerned about what he was taking, and had some idea  that it could kill him ...but figured,  if it does - then oh well.  Depression is a serious thing, and the perscription drugs perscribed to a depressed person CAN KILL THEM - - if taken wrong.

I suppose a doctor can only hope the patient takes the pills correctly  Frequently doctors are lied to, and without checking a patients medical history (usually with another doctor)  they will have no clue if a patient has access to, or is taking more medications.  This can be further manipulated by using different drug stores. 

Today's prescription drugs are putting the drug dealer out of business. They are so accessible, powerful, yet so "under the radar"  to carry or posses.   It seems that the more identifiable ones .... (illicit drugs) will be reserved only for the serious junkies in the future.

[68chrgrwife]

But when one of the hot looking actresses has a problem or gets busted , right away they are guilty ?

did I say that?  No I didn't.  If this had been a female (even crazy ass Spears) I would have said the same thing.  They have reported that it looks like an accident and I personally think it was.  He had pills still in the bottles...if you were trying to kill yourself...you wouldn't leave pills in the bottles you would take them all......

[TUFCAT]

They have reported that it looks like an accident and I personally think it was. 

I think he was depressed.....then, he made a mistake.

[hemihead]

I think it was an accident too . I think he was attempting suicide like Owen Wilson to get some attention or cry foe help but miscalculated the dosage or combination . I feel sorry for him , his family , and daughter but he too was a " crazy ass " .

[Back N Black]

But when one of the hot looking actresses has a problem or gets busted , right away they are guilty ?

did I say that?  No I didn't.  If this had been a female (even crazy ass Spears) I would have said the same thing.  They have reported that it looks like an accident and I personally think it was.  He had pills still in the bottles...if you were trying to kill yourself...you wouldn't leave pills in the bottles you would take them all......

He did not take them all because he did not want to puke them up, he knew how much to take. I think he accomplished what he set out to do. As for feeling sorry for him  I don't think he was thinking about his love ones. 

[moparstuart]

But when one of the hot looking actresses has a problem or gets busted , right away they are guilty ?

did I say that?  No I didn't.  If this had been a female (even crazy ass Spears) I would have said the same thing.  They have reported that it looks like an accident and I personally think it was.  He had pills still in the bottles...if you were trying to kill yourself...you wouldn't leave pills in the bottles you would take them all......

she will be found dead next !!!!!

[Ponch ®]

Personally, I think this Ledger dude was seriously depressed which led him to an intentional overdose. My guess is either he didn't care enough to be concerned about what he was taking, and had some idea  that it could kill him ...but figured,  if it does - then oh well.  Depression is a serious thing, and the perscription drugs perscribed to a depressed person CAN KILL THEM - - if taken wrong.

Depressed about what? I just heard that he was probably ballin' one of the Olsen Twins. Mary Kate, I think. I mean, she's not much of a looker, but if he got that, he might as well have backed up the Brinks truck.

[nh_mopar_fan]

Personally, I think this Ledger dude was seriously depressed which led him to an intentional overdose. My guess is either he didn't care enough to be concerned about what he was taking, and had some idea  that it could kill him ...but figured,  if it does - then oh well.  Depression is a serious thing, and the perscription drugs perscribed to a depressed person CAN KILL THEM - - if taken wrong.

Depressed about what? I just heard that he was probably ballin' one of the Olsen Twins. Mary Kate, I think. I mean, she's not much of a looker, but if he got that, he might as well have backed up the Brinks truck.

Hope this doesn't ruin Mary Kate's appetite.

[Mike DC]

Yeah, but if Hollywood has proven anything, it's that money/fame/success don't have anything to do with whether or not you're very happy inside. 



I'm calling this guy a probable accident though. 
He might have intentionally taken a dosage that turned out to be lethal, but that's not the same thing as intentionally taking a lethal dosage.  Not everyone who OD's on downers is intentionally trying to commit suicide. 

Plenty of people out there are running on huge overdoses of drugs all the time.  Amounts that would flatten anyone else who didn't already have a serious tolerance built up. 

Of course the coroner's toxicoligy report is gonna show some absolutely idiotic levels of drugs in the dead person's system -- their tolerance was HUGE by the time they died, and the lethal amount was probably not that much more than they were taking on a regular basis.     

   

[bull]

Do any of you really care? Seriously? Was he someone you talked to on a regular basis and enjoyed being around? Was anyone on this site his son, father, wife, daughter or skiing buddy? People die every day and we don't give it a second thought so why is it that when a pretty/rich celebrity dies people get all bent out of shape over it and the speculation as to how they died? We all speculate about everyone we know, dead or alive. It's human nature, get over it. The guy is dead so I really don't think he's concerned about our opinions of him. In fact, I'm willing to bet he didn't care before he died.

[hemihead]

Do any of you really care? Seriously? Was he someone you talked to on a regular basis and enjoyed being around? Was anyone on this site his son, father, wife, daughter or skiing buddy? People die every day and we don't give it a second thought so why is it that when a pretty/rich celebrity dies people get all bent out of shape over it and the speculation as to how they died? We all speculate about everyone we know, dead or alive. It's human nature, get over it. The guy is dead so I really don't think he's concerned about our opinions of him. In fact, I'm willing to bet he didn't care before he died.

I guess I care about as much as what car is on Alan Jackson's album cover , the DOH car at the BJ Auction , what car Bruce Willis drives , how much of a sled the new Challenger is ,which year Charger is best ,should somebody paint their car green or black , or whether Kenny Wayne Sheperd is a member . It just depends on what one thinks is of interest .

[Mike DC]

 
Hey, we don't have to be losing sleep over it just to idly speculate over it. 

The media certainly doesn't allow us to be unaware of the incident right now.

[bull]

Do any of you really care? Seriously? Was he someone you talked to on a regular basis and enjoyed being around? Was anyone on this site his son, father, wife, daughter or skiing buddy? People die every day and we don't give it a second thought so why is it that when a pretty/rich celebrity dies people get all bent out of shape over it and the speculation as to how they died? We all speculate about everyone we know, dead or alive. It's human nature, get over it. The guy is dead so I really don't think he's concerned about our opinions of him. In fact, I'm willing to bet he didn't care before he died.

I guess I care about as much as what car is on Alan Jackson's album cover , the DOH car at the BJ Auction , what car Bruce Willis drives , how much of a sled the new Challenger is ,which year Charger is best ,should somebody paint their car green or black , or whether Kenny Wayne Sheperd is a member . It just depends on what one thinks is of interest .

Well, at least the celebrities you mentioned above own or are within close proximity to the car we come here to talk about when they are mentioned, and that lends credence to them being mentioned here at all don't you think? Call me crazy but when I am on a Charger message board it makes perfect sense for the members to talk about Chargers; the ones we own, the ones we see in public, the ones we see in magazines and on album covers and in film and TV, etc...

[69charger2002]

yeah i mean if you deleted all those topics of general interest(KWS car, GL's, alan's car on a cover, etc. i mean how many new original posts can be talked about that is interesting? this site would get old fast. the best thing to do is if you're not interested in a topic such as bruce willis's charger, don't click on it to read. skip it
trav

[hemihead]

Do any of you really care? Seriously? Was he someone you talked to on a regular basis and enjoyed being around? Was anyone on this site his son, father, wife, daughter or skiing buddy? People die every day and we don't give it a second thought so why is it that when a pretty/rich celebrity dies people get all bent out of shape over it and the speculation as to how they died? We all speculate about everyone we know, dead or alive. It's human nature, get over it. The guy is dead so I really don't think he's concerned about our opinions of him. In fact, I'm willing to bet he didn't care before he died.

I guess I care about as much as what car is on Alan Jackson's album cover , the DOH car at the BJ Auction , what car Bruce Willis drives , how much of a sled the new Challenger is ,which year Charger is best ,should somebody paint their car green or black , or whether Kenny Wayne Sheperd is a member . It just depends on what one thinks is of interest .

Well, at least the celebrities you mentioned above own or are within close proximity to the car we come here to talk about when they are mentioned, and that lends credence to them being mentioned here at all don't you think? Call me crazy but when I am on a Charger message board it makes perfect sense for the members to talk about Chargers; the ones we own, the ones we see in public, the ones we see in magazines and on album covers and in film and TV, etc...

This is the " Off Topic Section " which means not the subject of the forum does it not ?  And what about all the people that come on this Charger forum and want to talk about trucks , Chevys , Fords, Ricers , etc . ? What about the people that want to brag about their kids, talk about their health ,their drinking habits,  and the ones that hit on the female members here . I guess we all tolerate the subject of a post when we or one our friends is interested or involved .

[bull]

Do any of you really care? Seriously? Was he someone you talked to on a regular basis and enjoyed being around? Was anyone on this site his son, father, wife, daughter or skiing buddy? People die every day and we don't give it a second thought so why is it that when a pretty/rich celebrity dies people get all bent out of shape over it and the speculation as to how they died? We all speculate about everyone we know, dead or alive. It's human nature, get over it. The guy is dead so I really don't think he's concerned about our opinions of him. In fact, I'm willing to bet he didn't care before he died.

I guess I care about as much as what car is on Alan Jackson's album cover , the DOH car at the BJ Auction , what car Bruce Willis drives , how much of a sled the new Challenger is ,which year Charger is best ,should somebody paint their car green or black , or whether Kenny Wayne Sheperd is a member . It just depends on what one thinks is of interest .

Well, at least the celebrities you mentioned above own or are within close proximity to the car we come here to talk about when they are mentioned, and that lends credence to them being mentioned here at all don't you think? Call me crazy but when I am on a Charger message board it makes perfect sense for the members to talk about Chargers; the ones we own, the ones we see in public, the ones we see in magazines and on album covers and in film and TV, etc...

This is the " Off Topic Section " which means not the subject of the forum does it not ?  And what about all the people that come on this Charger forum and want to talk about trucks , Chevys , Fords, Ricers , etc . ? What about the people that want to brag about their kids, talk about their health ,their drinking habits,  and the ones that hit on the female members here . I guess we all tolerate the subject of a post when we or one our friends is interested or involved .

I'm talking about the weirdness of getting emotionally involved with the death of someone nobody here really knows. I would feel no different if Bruce Willis, John Schneider, Kenny Wayne Shepherd or Alan Jackson died because I don't know them, am not related to them and have never talked to them (I might miss Mr. Willis because I like his acting ability but don't expect any tears or sleep loss). Likewise I know for a fact that none of these celebrities would lose any sleep if I dropped dead right now. Hell, 99% of the people on this site wouldn't lose any sleep if I died tomorrow. I just don't understand people getting bent out of shape over celebrity deaths. That's all.

[hemihead]

Like trav said  if you aren't interested in a topic, don't read it . I don't say that with any animosity . 

[bull]

Like trav said  if you aren't interested in a topic, don't read it . I don't say that with any animosity . 

Right, and I am interested so I read it. I think he was talking to you.

[PocketThunder]

Gosh, i'm glad we're not talking about Jamie Lynn Spears anymore!  Uff Da!   

[dkn1997]

Everyone needs to calm down, Lets talk more about this:

[Brock Samson]

well just for the sake of the discussion, compare the death of this hollywood actor with the poor souls lost in the auto accident in Ron's post...
We are linked to the actor via his portrayal in popular cinema so there is a connection between us and him, even if we don't know him personally. His profession is to engage us in his character/s and to bring his roles to life. Did he succeed in this endeavor? the evidence shows that indeed for most of us he did.
In the Accident Ron responded to, he had a major stake in attempting to save their lives, and it must be absolutely devastating to attempt such an effort and be frustrated.  While we had no such connection with the accident victims ourselves, Ron sure did.
  Is anyone here broken up or particularly concerned with their demise?.. I can't speak for any of you, only myself, and I feel sad that so many innocent lose their live due to whatever the unknown circumstances were. Actors, passengers in a car or any soul or life in need, be they Human, Animal or endangered flora, (And If that makes me a whacked out tree hugger, so be it).
  To Ron specifically I'd like to add here just how deeply grateful I am that he and many thousands of dedicated professionals are on duty 24/7 and 365 day a year to come to my or my loved ones or friends aid should i or anyone for that matter, ever require help, from the 911 operators to the Hazzmat crews and also that they would be severely affected responding even risking death or injury themselves and short of risking injury themselves, they brave the emotional repercussions of what I'm sure is a deeply spiritual bond when the victims and even co-workers are caught up in everyday emergencies, most of which happen all around us without our kn owlage.
Working the citydesk phones for nearly three decades i can say with certinly, we know absolutely nothing about the multitude of tragedies that occur all around us at any given time.
I hope this makes sense as I'm writing from my heart and not from some pragmatic voyeur's viewpoint.

[bull]

Ok, I'm officially no longer interested in this topic.