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Are AMCs Concidered MOPARs?..

Started by Brock Samson, January 22, 2008, 08:05:29 AM

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Brock Samson

 I stumbled on this awesome website and thought the topic is worthy of some concideration,.. besides, I've allways wanted an AMX.  :yesnod:










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Brock Samson

and you thought die hard was just a a Movie.  :scratchchin:






these ads are all from this website:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/Photo_Gallery_Nascar/amc%20ads/amc_ads.htm









Craig Breedloves' AMX on the banking:



apparently these rebel MACHINE press kits are for sale Chris...  :icon_smile_wink:

Khyron

I had a 72 Jav years ago. one of my favorate cars. I believe they are considered Ma Mopars step child.



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BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: Khyron on January 22, 2008, 08:38:09 AM
I had a 72 Jav years ago. one of my favorate cars. I believe they are considered Ma Mopars step child.



bastard step child perhaps   :nana:


But not Pacers....   they suck   :icon_smile_big:
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

Brock Samson


TripleBlackGator

Not by me they aren't. I don't think they should attend Mopar shows either. They are AMC's and that's all they are.  :Twocents:
Malicious, vindictive, spiteful, cynical, pessimistic, sarcastic, & antagonistic. And those are my good traits!

Brock Samson

Did you know the Pacer was supposed to be rotery powered with G.M.s' never introduced wankel engine?..
so were the monza sunbird skyhawk trio, instead all those cars got piston engines they were not designed for and changing the rear spark plugs was a nightmare...

from wikipedia

"Although many manufacturers licensed the design, and Mercedes-Benz used it for their C111 concept car, only Mazda has produced Wankel engines in large numbers. American Motors (AMC) was so convinced "...that the rotary engine will play an important role as a powerplant for cars and trucks of the future..." according to its Chairman Roy D. Chapin Jr., that the smallest U.S. automaker signed an agreement in 1973 to build Wankels for both passenger cars and Jeep vehicles, as well as the right to sell any rotary engines it produces to other companies.[3] It even designed the unique Pacer around the engine, even though by that time AMC had decided to buy the Wankel engines from GM instead of building them itself. However, the engines never reached production by the time the Pacer was to hit the showrooms. Part of the demise of this feature was the rising fuel crisis and concerns about emission legislation in the United States. General Motors' Wankel engine did not comply with emission levels, so in 1974 the company canceled its development. This meant that the Pacer's drivetrain design had to be reconfigured to house the venerable AMC Straight-6 engines with rear-wheel drive."

Also the Delorean..
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/20/delorean-finally-gets-the-engine-it-should-have-had-all-along/

TruckDriver

I feel they are since Chrysler bought them out, and still uses the old AMC engine plant to build engines. I love Gremlins & Javelins. Some Hornets too.  :yesnod:
PETE

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TruckDriver

 ;)
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

TruckDriver

 :yesnod:
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

Brock Samson

 :2thumbs: Your allways good for a few...  :smilielol:

I know it's hard to belive but this beast was a NASCAR champion...





Yikes! WTF Happened to american cars in the mid '70s!?!  :shruggy:



1978,..  :eek2:





:scratchchin: I'd better set the way back machine somewhat earlier..  :RantExplode:



here's some great old SCCA Trans am stuff from '70.. *



http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.javelinamx.com/JavHome/articles/oct91oc1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.javelinamx.com/JavHome/articles/article2.htm&h=875&w=654&sz=146&hl=en&start=41&um=1&tbnid=2n-pNT43m0fXOM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=109&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAMC%2BMatador%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN



* See, I told ya' Alfas are the MOPARs of Europe.

68RT4ME

Thought I think that AMX's and Javelins are cool cars and my favorite AMC is the Rebel Machine, They aren't nor ever will be MOPARS to me.
'69 Charger R/T, T5, Tan Top, Tan Interior, Black Stripe. Complete numbers matching 440 4Spd

Brock Samson

Well, I guess AMC got grandfathered in around 1987 when Chrysler bought Jeep and the AMC Eagle came with it.

here's a couple great ALLPAR links..
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.javelinamx.com/JavHome/articles/oct91oc1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.javelinamx.com/JavHome/articles/article2.htm&h=875&w=654&sz=146&hl=en&start=41&um=1&tbnid=2n-pNT43m0fXOM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=109&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAMC%2BMatador%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN

http://www.allpar.com/model/premier.html

BTW: the AMC/Eagle premier, begat the LH Series that begat the LX series so your new Dodge,, ahem,.. sedan - Chrysler 300 and Magnum all have A French Grandfather...

from ALLPAR

"The once-independent American Motors Corporation (AMC), struggling to create a market identity after the demise of their Nash and Rambler labels, came up with small but very heavy cars with available 4WD (Eagle), forerunners of the late-80s bubble-style little cars (Pacer), and fast, furious experimental cars with high-performance engines (AMX). But it was all to no avail, and Renault ended up buying AMC, partly to sell their own cars in the American market. Their attempt failed, and Chrysler, under "buy and sell" Iaccoca, bought AMC. This move, though widely regarded as stupid at the time (probably by the same analysts who loved the Daimler-Chrysler merger), gave Chrysler one of its two biggest moneymakers: Jeep.

When Chrysler bought AMC, it agreed to sell a certain number of Renaults. (Iaccoca also reportedly promised not to end the AMC name, which he did shortly after the sale went through. Instead of AMC, he chose the name Eagle for the division, after the heavy, 4WD-capable, bulging-tired AMC which can still be found in snowy and hilly areas. The Eagle's sister, the AMC Concord, eventually found a namesake in a Chrysler LH car).

The Premier itself was not totally discontinued; its design was adapted into the LH."


more cool stuff from AMCs glory days..
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.javelinamx.com/JavHome/articles/oct91oc1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.javelinamx.com/JavHome/articles/article2.htm&h=875&w=654&sz=146&hl=en&start=41&um=1&tbnid=2n-pNT43m0fXOM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=109&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAMC%2BMatador%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN

skeets 66

I all ways wanted a javlin,,,cool cars....................I learned how to drive a clutch with a pacer,,,,ugly car,,,,,i all ways wanted to see if you turned it upside down in water,,,,would it float.....hahahaha,,,or at least make a fish tank out of it  :smilielol:

71charger_fan

If we rule out cars because Chrysler bought the company, where's that leave Dodge? Any Dodges older than the buyout aren't welcome at Mopar shows?

kab69440

Unless I am mistaken, didn't Chrysler hold almost 1/3 of AMC's available stock throughout the muscle years?
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68RT4ME

Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 22, 2008, 11:46:57 AM
If we rule out cars because Chrysler bought the company, where's that leave Dodge? Any Dodges older than the buyout aren't welcome at Mopar shows?

Can't convince me that an AMC is a MOPAR but perhaps this would make a good poll question just to gage how others feel.
'69 Charger R/T, T5, Tan Top, Tan Interior, Black Stripe. Complete numbers matching 440 4Spd

TK73

Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 22, 2008, 11:46:57 AM
If we rule out cars because Chrysler bought the company, where's that leave Dodge? Any Dodges older than the buyout aren't welcome at Mopar shows?

Gotta agree, Mopar is like a "modern" American family;    stepfamily, ex-spouses and half-siblings all over the place...

I personally WELCOME AMC's at Mopar shows and are proud to have our half-brothers at the family reunions (as long as they bring the beer).
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


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bordin34

I like AMCs they have the styling of all the big 3.

1973 SE Brougham Black 4̶0̶0̶  440 Auto.
1967 Coronet Black 440 Auto
1974 SE Brougham Blue 318 Auto- Sold to a guy in Croatia
1974 Valiant Green 318 Auto - Sold to a guy in Louisiana
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Brock Samson

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I don't mind them being at mopar shows, one bit,.. There's only a few left runnin round..
They're orphens and need a home, besides I dig 'em..

rusty lee

sure AMC is a mopar and a Ford and a Chevy. AMC= all makes combined     :D

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: rusty lee on January 22, 2008, 12:18:43 PM
sure AMC is a mopar and a Ford and a Chevy. AMC= all makes combined     :D
:iagree:
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

41husk

I always liked the Rambler Scrambler as well!  My vote is they are part of the mopar family.  What about Plymouths?  are they no longer part of the mopar family?
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up