Wreck at work. Not Mopar but still sad & Funny

[C_stripes]

So.  I work for a Toyota Honda dealer and we were getting a dealer trade from Pocatello, ID.  They were driving it down here and got with in a mile of our dealer in Logan, UT. Some idiot makes a right turn right into this brand new 08 Honda Odyssey. This van has around 150 Miles on it and will be totaled. The vehicle has never even been titled. The plastic is still on the floors. The floor mats are still behind the rear seat in plastic. The window sticker is still in the window (You can see it in one pic) And the whole Pass side is demolished. The side air bags popped the Rocker panel is messed up its allot worse than the pics show. Plus its brand new.  I'm just glad I wasn't driving.







Jeremy

[69bronzeT5]

DOH!!!!! . Oh well, its just a Honda

[Charger1973]

Beats the hell out of anything I have to drive.  I'll trade em a perfectly good 92 S10 Blazer with 220,000 miles on it.  Straight up. 

[Crazy Larry]

That's sad when a car gets hit from the side and has to be totaled. No engine damage I'm sure. It doesn't even look like it is sitting crooked. There must be frame damage to be totalled.

But what does that say about the "toughness" of a honda?

Then again, all cars are pretty much plastic and fiberglass - so I guess a dodge caravan would have the same outcome.

It's a sad fact of the industry nowadays.

[69bronzeT5]

Like those Honda Elements. Half of the outer body is plastic

[terrible one]

Like those Honda Elements. Half of the outer body is plastic

More durable than skin.

[C_stripes]

That's sad when a car gets hit from the side and has to be totaled. No engine damage I'm sure. It doesn't even look like it is sitting crooked. There must be frame damage to be totalled.

But what does that say about the "toughness" of a honda?

Then again, all cars are pretty much plastic and fiberglass - so I guess a dodge caravan would have the same outcome.

It's a sad fact of the industry nowadays.

There is no frame damage. The reason it is totaled is because it has never been titled. The Van still belongs to the dealer. You can not fix it and sell it as a new car now. It is also to much of a lieability to the company to fix it and sell it as a used. People would ask why they had a car with less than 200 Miles on the used lot. You would tell them it was wrecked and they wont want it. Plus. The side curtin airbags. Thats over $5K right there. When you look at the van. You would need to replace, The front fender, the pass door, The sliding pass. door, the rear bumper, the two pass side wheels(rash from the other car). The upper int. panels. The air bags, Fix the rear 1/4, Fix the front bumper, Fix the rocker panel, Then paint all of that. So parts and labor, Your talking $10K to $15K. The window sticker on the van is just under $33K. The most likely thing is that it will be donated by Honda to a trade school or collage. There is nothing wrong with it mechanically or structurally. Just a bad set of circumstance. New cars are expensive to fix. Plus. If you were going to go buy a new vehicle, Would you want to spend over $30K for a vehicle that had about half of the body replaced allready? I wouldn't!

[1969chargerrtse]

Don't be making no Honda jokes.   They are one of, if not the best cars built.  Toyota and Honda make great stuff.  I sold my 74 Honda 550/4 ( bike) to help pay for some charger parts.  35 years old, but touch the starter button and that baby ran as brand new, Honda lawn mower, one pull is all it takes.  Love Honda's, can ya tell? 

[TruckDriver]

I'm sure someone will buy it, and fix it up to put on one of those small car lots somewhere. Say what you want about airbags, (and I realize they can save lives), I think they cost people more headaches then their worth.

[Shakey]

So.  I work for a Toyota Honda dealer and we were getting a dealer trade from Pocatello, ID.  They were driving it down here and got with in a mile of our dealer in Logan, UT. Some idiot makes a right turn right into this brand new 08 Honda Odyssey. This van has around 150 Miles on it and will be totaled. The vehicle has never even been titled. The plastic is still on the floors. The floor mats are still behind the rear seat in plastic. The window sticker is still in the window (You can see it in one pic) And the whole Pass side is demolished. The side air bags popped the Rocker panel is messed up its allot worse than the pics show. Plus its brand new.  I'm just glad I wasn't driving.


Jeremy

That's hilarious!   

Some sucker, I guess that would be your boss, has a product that is worthless to him now however his insurance company will cover the loss.  I imagine his premiums might increase next year because the claim, which will cut into profits in turn might stop him from sharing any with you or your fellow employees!    

Hilarious!   

[Shakey]

That's sad when a car gets hit from the side and has to be totaled. No engine damage I'm sure. It doesn't even look like it is sitting crooked. There must be frame damage to be totalled.

But what does that say about the "toughness" of a honda?

Then again, all cars are pretty much plastic and fiberglass - so I guess a dodge caravan would have the same outcome.

It's a sad fact of the industry nowadays.

There is no frame damage. The reason it is totaled is because it has never been titled. The Van still belongs to the dealer. You can not fix it and sell it as a new car now. It is also to much of a lieability to the company to fix it and sell it as a used. People would ask why they had a car with less than 200 Miles on the used lot. You would tell them it was wrecked and they wont want it. Plus. The side curtin airbags. Thats over $5K right there. When you look at the van. You would need to replace, The front fender, the pass door, The sliding pass. door, the rear bumper, the two pass side wheels(rash from the other car). The upper int. panels. The air bags, Fix the rear 1/4, Fix the front bumper, Fix the rocker panel, Then paint all of that. So parts and labor, Your talking $10K to $15K. The window sticker on the van is just under $33K. The most likely thing is that it will be donated by Honda to a trade school or collage. There is nothing wrong with it mechanically or structurally. Just a bad set of circumstance. New cars are expensive to fix. Plus. If you were going to go buy a new vehicle, Would you want to spend over $30K for a vehicle that had about half of the body replaced allready? I wouldn't!

I'd buy it in a heartbeat, fix it and use it for myself as in ON the vehicle would be branded a "write off" or "salvage vehicle" which would follow the VIN until the end of time, which means selling it, as you mentioned would be difficult.  I could have that vehicle fixed for a lot less than you mentioned and drive it with no issues until the wheels fall off.

All the cars I drove from 16 until I was 30 were rebuilders.  Buy 'em cheap, fix 'em properly by yourself and sell them for a profit to move up to a better vehicle.  Those days are gone.

[694spdRT]

That van will be fixed by someone unless it is donated to a school like you mentioned. Back in 2000 we bought a new 2000 Intrepid ES with 100 miles on it that was wrecked on a test drive. We bought and fixed it for less than $10,000 from an insurance disposal company. The window sticker was over $26,000 at that time.

[rusty lee]

That will buff right out    store it for 20 years and sell it on barrett-Jackson as a no owner.

[dukeboy_318]

they'll probably donate it and use it as a tax write off.  When i was a senior in highschool, the local dealer donated a brand new 2005 chevy 250 4x4 duramax diesel to the autoshop.  They donated it because when unloading the employee(who couldnt drive a manual worth crap) drove it off the front of the semi and bent the frame up, drove it right over the cab of the semi, guess he thought he had it in reverse but he had it in 2nd. 

[Kevin69RTvert]

That's sad when a car gets hit from the side and has to be totaled. No engine damage I'm sure. It doesn't even look like it is sitting crooked. There must be frame damage to be totalled.

But what does that say about the "toughness" of a honda?

Then again, all cars are pretty much plastic and fiberglass - so I guess a dodge caravan would have the same outcome.

It's a sad fact of the industry nowadays.

Today's cars are built so you survive the crash, not the car. The way the cars of yesterday are made, the occupants take all the brunt of the wreck. I'd rather be in that Honda than in my Coronet in any crash.

-Kevin

[Charger_Fan]

I'd like the front leather seats out of it.

[PocketThunder]

Heck ya i'd take that sucker as is and haul the kids around and replace my '99 Odyssey. 

[Crazy Larry]

That's sad when a car gets hit from the side and has to be totaled. No engine damage I'm sure. It doesn't even look like it is sitting crooked. There must be frame damage to be totalled.

But what does that say about the "toughness" of a honda?

Then again, all cars are pretty much plastic and fiberglass - so I guess a dodge caravan would have the same outcome.

It's a sad fact of the industry nowadays.

Today's cars are built so you survive the crash, not the car. The way the cars of yesterday are made, the occupants take all the brunt of the wreck. I'd rather be in that Honda than in my Coronet in any crash.

-Kevin

Yeah, I guess that is so - but to me that is the problem. I still think if all the auto minds were to get together - they could find a happy medium in there somewhere. I'm tired of these bumpers, where you get into a slight accident, and you have to replace two panels. bumpers, headlights....like the term fender-bender no longer holds merit.

Nowadays, you get hit in the fender, you have to replace the hood, bumper, and possibly the door.

To me it seems like a giant scam so that car companies (no matter what country) get more money in selling panels and body parts - because the more that get ruined in a slight accident, the more money keeps flowing in.

If it was possible to just get back there with a hammer and bang out the dent, then they wouldn't be making any money.

I think the excuse that the car is safer is just an excuse to cover up the bigger picture. Honestly, I'd rather be in my Charger if someone let their foot off the brake in a Ford Torus and gave me a tap on the bumper. Odds are, it can be buffed right out or not even apparent. If I am in my Ford Crown Vic or Dodge Intrepid - forget about it.

[Troy]

If people would pay attention and drive like they had an ounce of common sense you wouldn't need to worry about how much it costs to replace parts on a vehicle. Just like insurance, the safety features on a car should be there for emergency situations and, in that respect, should protect the occupants at any cost. It's these morons who "drive by feel" that cost the rest of us so much money.

Troy

[dkn1997]

 it's very common for cars to be damaged in shipping and the dealer just fixes it and sells it as new.  They never tell the buyer either.  Unless there is some damage formula I don't know about, they will be bondoing that up, painting it and selling it to some unsuspecting pregnant lady. 

There was a guy down here a few years ago who picketed a ford dealer to the point where they turned the sprinklers on him, called the cops, etc..  they had sold him a taurus wagon that had a total repaint, hood replaced from shipping damage.  I think he realized it when the paint started falling off the thing.  of course they never included that little detail when the sold him the car.

[C_stripes]

Working at a dealer. I see allot of what they do. Some cars if it is a minor dent or scratch. They will fix. But at the dealer I work at. Anything to severe will be sold to the insurance company. Last year we a guy from work was going on a Dealer trade to Wyoming. He had a 06 Tundra with around 4K miles, The dealers new flat bed trailer and a 07 Camry with 15 miles on the odometer. He was coming down a pass and hit ice and rolled everything. They never even brought the stuff back to UT. It all got sold to the insurance company. The Camry was not bad, It just went on its side into a soft snow drift. The truck and trailer on the other hand. Thrashed. I wish I had pics of that one. The Camry could have been driven still.  Wrecks happen allot with dealers. But you figure how many cars they go threw and use. Its crazy there are not more.

[Mike DC]

 
Here's a thought -- start working towards a paint process that doesn't demand so many steps & money. 

Right now every single scratch costs a minimum of $400 just to get out the paint gun.  That's crazy when we're talking about daily commuter cars.  We need some combination of easier paint fixes and more of a culture-wide willingness to just leave things a little bit dented.  We shouldn't have so much of an all-or-nothing attitude about small dings & dents.


It would help if they'd go back to solid-color bumpers on cars like the chromed ones used to be.  Maybe just mold all the urethane bumper covers in satin black and leave them that way on the final product.   You could rattle-can fix a lot more of the minor scrapes & damage that way.     


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And WTF is with airbag prices?!? 

They CAN NOT  sit here and tell me that it's impossible to explode & replace an airbag for less than $3-6K. 

[Chris G.]

What a joke! That's a fender bender at most. I got slapped in the side much worse and they fixed it. They now do frame rail replacement, so totaling a car/truck should take a little more than that soccer van got.

[C_stripes]

What a joke! That's a fender bender at most. I got slapped in the side much worse and they fixed it. They now do frame rail replacement, so totaling a car/truck should take a little more than that soccer van got.

Some of you guys are not understanding that the van has NEVER been titled. So it has to be totaled. They cant fix it and sell it. It is to much liability. If the van was owned by someone. It would be fixed. But the van still belongs to Honda. The dealer can not even fix it and sell it as a used car. It will be totaled and more than likely be donated to a trade school. The school can then fix it and drive it as a school vehicle, But they can not under any sercumstance sell it.          ITS JUST BECAUSE IT HAS NEVER BEEN TITLED!

[timinator]

I work in an office building on a corner and some girl came around the corner too fast. She crashed right through the wall of our building and into MY office! It's hard to sleep with all that racket!