News:

It appears that the upgrade forces a login and many, many of you have forgotten your passwords and didn't set up any reminders. Contact me directly through helpmelogin@dodgecharger.com and I'll help sort it out.

Main Menu

Challenger T/A side pipes..who has 'em on their Charger?

Started by 69bronzeT5, January 17, 2008, 12:56:31 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

69bronzeT5

I know a few members have them on their Chargers. Lets see pics! This '69 is on Ebay right now. It looks pretty sweet :yesnod:
Feature Editor for Mopar Connection Magazine
http://moparconnectionmagazine.com/



1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Dave22443

Nice looking Charger, but I prefer my pipes out back.  Besides, here in Virginia, those would be considered illegal.  :icon_smile_blackeye:

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
- Abraham Lincoln

Ghoste


TruckDriver

Quote from: Ghoste on January 17, 2008, 05:02:41 AM
Doesn't Big Sugar have them on his 66?

Yup. I love his car, but I still prefer them out the back too.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

hemihead

Lots of people talkin' , few of them know
Soul of a woman was created below
  Led Zeppelin

Fitz73Chrgr

I also prefer them out the back on a second gen.  Side pipes clutter up the side of the car and take away from the body lines. 
'73 Charger - project                '70 Charger - driver                 '66 Charger - survivor

Resto thread:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,89803.msg1019541.html#msg1019541

694spdRT

Here is a shot of my '68 in the Homecoming Parade back in 1982 when it had side exit exhausts. 
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

The70RT

I'm sure it also raises tire temp too, especially when your on the highway. I don't like the sound either. Certainly a low budget idea  :Twocents:
<br /><br />Uploaded with ImageShack.us

hutch

funny you should ask. My 73 is in the shop now getting a new system put in that will come out in front of the rear wheels. I will try and post a pic when I get it back tonight.

:cheers:
In the words of Colonel Sanders,,,   "I'm too drunk,,, to taste this chicken"

hutch

Quote from: Dave22443 on January 17, 2008, 04:22:13 AM
Nice looking Charger, but I prefer my pipes out back.  Besides, here in Virginia, those would be considered illegal.  :icon_smile_blackeye:

Whats illegal about them? 
In the words of Colonel Sanders,,,   "I'm too drunk,,, to taste this chicken"

miller

Quote from: hutch on January 17, 2008, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: Dave22443 on January 17, 2008, 04:22:13 AM
Nice looking Charger, but I prefer my pipes out back.  Besides, here in Virginia, those would be considered illegal.  :icon_smile_blackeye:

Whats illegal about them? 

the heat from the exhaust gases would melt the rear tires, creating huge amounts of smoke.... at least thats what i would tell the police officer...

2005 Harley Davidson 1200 Sportster Custom - Maggie
2012 370Z NISMO - Courtney
1979 Corvette L-82 - Lilly
1969 Dodge Charger R/T Clone - Vanessa

Joshua

Quote from: hutch on January 17, 2008, 11:50:48 AM
Whats illegal about them? 

Most states require the exhaust to exit behind the rear axle.....that or behind the side glass. When parked and running, the exhaust can pollute the passenger compartment when side windows are open....not good....
Side exhaust also tends to leave soot on the side of the car over time or a least discolor the paint....

learical1

I put a set on my lemon-twist SuperBird back in the mid-70's.  Never melted any tires.  Driving around in the Arizona heat with the benefits of A/C, I always drove with the windows down.  Carbon Monoxide never seemed to affect me.  :eek2: 



Quote from: Joshua on January 17, 2008, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: hutch on January 17, 2008, 11:50:48 AM
Whats illegal about them? 

Most states require the exhaust to exit behind the rear axle.....that or behind the side glass. When parked and running, the exhaust can pollute the passenger compartment when side windows are open....not good....
Side exhaust also tends to leave soot on the side of the car over time or a least discolor the paint....


TONS of cars have side pipes, etc. and are legal.  And we are talking about adapting the factory T/A-AAR side exits to a B-body.  I can't picture where they'd be illegal. :shruggy:
Bruce

Blown70

Each state has different laws governing this.  I called and checked in ND, side exit ehaust must exit the rear of the passenger compartment.  IF there is a side window is MUST be non-functional.  IN other words the back passenger window could not function to do this in ND...... 

Tom

Joshua

Quote from: Blown70 on January 17, 2008, 03:51:22 PM
Each state has different laws governing this.  I called and checked in ND, side exit ehaust must exit the rear of the passenger compartment.  IF there is a side window is MUST be non-functional.  IN other words the back passenger window could not function to do this in ND...... 

Tom

Yeah....
Also, alot of side pipes were installed on Corvettes (and vans...haha) during the 70's....these were "legal" as well, because the exit was behind the passenger compartment....

Quote from: learical1 on January 17, 2008, 03:46:46 PM
TONS of cars have side pipes, etc. and are legal. 

How do YOU know they are legal??? Just because a car is liscenced for the street doesn't make it modifications "legal"......there are plenty of laws on the books that even your local police are not aware of (especially the young guys), as it doesn't come up much....headlight height laws, fender laws, etc....

kylem4711

i like side exhaust and and am going to do it to my charger once i get it back. hopefully its legal in cali
1970 dodge charger rt 440 4-speed
1973 plymouth barracuda 4-speed

The70RT

I guess just leave the back seat out and tell them the pass compartment stops at the back of the front seats  :icon_smile_big:
<br /><br />Uploaded with ImageShack.us

learical1

Quote from: Joshua on January 17, 2008, 05:46:39 PM


How do YOU know they are legal???

'cause I know everything!  :yesnod:  :nana:

and shouldn't that be "How do you KNOW they are legal??? :D

Seriously, I assumed they were legal cause all my friends with side pipes on their corvettes and cobras, when they'd get pulled over for 'display of power' and written up for every other thing the cops could think of, never were ticketed for having the side pipes. (I'll retract part of that, one guy did get get written up, but it was because the side pipes had no mufflers.)  [btw, we are talking arizona here, home of no inspections other that emmissions.]  My REAL question is "Since the T/A-AAR's had back seats, functioning rear windows and side exits, were they illegal in some states?"  Anybody know?
:scratchchin:
Bruce

Joshua

Quote from: learical1 on January 18, 2008, 01:09:27 PM
'cause I know everything!  :yesnod:  :nana:

Good answer! :cheers:


Quote from: learical1 on January 18, 2008, 01:09:27 PM
and shouldn't that be "How do you KNOW they are legal??? :D

Seriously, I assumed they were legal cause all my friends with side pipes on their corvettes and cobras, when they'd get pulled over for 'display of power' and written up for every other thing the cops could think of, never were ticketed for having the side pipes. (I'll retract part of that, one guy did get get written up, but it was because the side pipes had no mufflers.)  [btw, we are talking arizona here, home of no inspections other that emmissions.] My REAL question is "Since the T/A-AAR's had back seats, functioning rear windows and side exits, were they illegal in some states?"  Anybody know?
:scratchchin:

No...I meant it how I wrote it.... :icon_smile_big:
The law may not have been in introduced yet during the time at which the TA's/AAR's were in production,........and on Vette's and Cobras with side pipes, the exhaust exits behind the passenger dept., since the pipes exit is further back than the passenger compartment bulkhead. :2thumbs: Same with 70's Camaros.....no 1/4 glass......

timmy

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on January 17, 2008, 12:56:31 AM
I know a few members have them on their Chargers. Lets see pics! This '69 is on Ebay right now. It looks pretty sweet :yesnod:



duh this is a charger site

Brock Samson


TripleBlackGator

I wouldn't be caught dead with that style on my car. If it's a T/A or AAR that's another matter. That's how they came stock. On anything else they look low rent.
Malicious, vindictive, spiteful, cynical, pessimistic, sarcastic, & antagonistic. And those are my good traits!

70_charger

why would you say its low budget? Maybe that person has a low budget or just likes it like that . Hey it looks kool  :cheers:

TripleBlackGator

Quote from: 70_charger on January 18, 2008, 08:39:42 PM
why would you say its low budget? Maybe that person has a low budget or just likes it like that . Hey it looks kool  :cheers:

Low rent means just that. Back in high school (mid 70's) many of my fellow students would bring the exhaust out in front of the rear wheels simply because it was cheaper than running the pipes out the back. No tailpipes to buy. Sorry, but I don't look at it as cosmetic as much as I look at it being done to save money.  If you like the look then "rock on with your bad hand" son!   :Twocents:,
Malicious, vindictive, spiteful, cynical, pessimistic, sarcastic, & antagonistic. And those are my good traits!

chgr500

Not a Charger  :D, but I have legal factory side exit exhaust on my car  :nana:...she is a bit of a lowrider.....there's a reflection of a newer version on my door...lol....CO..Hmmmm