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Started by Dave22443, January 11, 2008, 08:11:41 AM

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Dave22443

I read somewhere today that the cost of a gallon of gas in the UK was $9.40 in American dollars.  Thats about 3 times what it costs here in the states.  So my question is, why the disparity?

Do other countries pay different amounts for oil?
Is it because they tax it more?
Does it cost more to refine it there?
If we lived in those countries, whom should we blame for the higher prices???

I was just wondering because we complain about $3.00+ a gallon gas, but it actually seems like we've got it pretty good compaired to some places.

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- Abraham Lincoln

hemihead

You ever notice that as soon as that statement is made about foreign gas prices that ours goes up ?  :smilielol:
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PocketThunder

I think its higher taxes by that countrys gov't.
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Troy

Higher taxes AND there are few refineries in Europe so they have to import refined fuel instead of just oil. When everyone over there started switching to diesel we started shipping all of our diesel fuel that direction (which is why it still costs more than gasoline here).

Troy
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Jon Smith

UK gallons are 4.54 litres, US gallons are 3.78 litres
its about $9 for a UK gallon roughly $7.60 for a US gallon
our tax on petrol is about 400% on the original price  :brickwall: :RantExplode: :flame: :pullinghair: :cussing:

Marck

Yeah, the gas prices are through the roof here in Europe right now.. I've had my license for around 10 years now, and the gas pris has more than doubled here.. (Denmark)
We're around 8$ for an us gallon at the moment.. I definatley picked the wrong time to get a musclecar...  :icon_smile_big: ;)

MichaelRW

Much of the "free" health care in some European countries is paid for by a portion of the gasoline taxes.
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moparstuart

Quote from: Troy on January 11, 2008, 10:25:06 AM
Higher taxes AND there are few refineries in Europe so they have to import refined fuel instead of just oil. When everyone over there started switching to diesel we started shipping all of our diesel fuel that direction (which is why it still costs more than gasoline here).

Troy

I wondered why diesel was so HI used to always  be cheaper then gas !!!!!!!
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Nacho-RT74

I fill the tank with US$3.5 or so
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

NHCharger

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on January 11, 2008, 05:23:06 PM
I fill the tank with US$3.5 or so

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J/K Nacho.

As mentioned above, how do you think they pay for FREE health care.
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remta1

We have lpg ( gas ) over here it just went up thirty cents a litre , the goverment gets the most bang for your buck , it goes towards roading healthcare etc ( over here if you have an accident broken leg ,car crash etc  the govt pays 80 per cent of your wages until you are able to return to work etc )

What really annoys me is that when crude oil prices go up we pay for that increase straight away at the pumps even though the new oil price is on barrels sitting over in the middle east etc  :brickwall:

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71charger_fan

I was in Amsterdam on 10 Jan. and saw 1.48 Euros per liter posted at a Shell station. Ouch. Here in Egypt, I can still buy premium for less than a buck a gallon.

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: NHCharger on January 11, 2008, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on January 11, 2008, 05:23:06 PM
I fill the tank with US$3.5 or so

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J/K Nacho.

As mentioned above, how do you think they pay for FREE health care.

well it was just asked so simply responsed ;D
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

hemihead

  $ 3.50 a gallom isn't cheap  :shruggy: It's only $3.15 here in Pennsylvania and we don't have a limit on purchases . Oh , and most importantly we don't have to put up with Chavez .  :lol:
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Nacho-RT74

Quote from: hemihead on January 12, 2008, 12:54:37 PM
  $ 3.50 a gallom isn't cheap  :shruggy: It's only $3.15 here in Pennsylvania and we don't have a limit on purchases . Oh , and most importantly we don't have to put up with Chavez .  :lol:

I told FILL COMPLETELLY the tank with what you get a gal

:slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap:

and laugh with the ppl disgrace is not funny

for example, I'm not laughing of your intelligence

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

suntech

Here in Norway the gas is app 8,60 usd/ us gallon right now :brickwall:

Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

hemihead

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on January 12, 2008, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: hemihead on January 12, 2008, 12:54:37 PM
  $ 3.50 a gallom isn't cheap  :shruggy: It's only $3.15 here in Pennsylvania and we don't have a limit on purchases . Oh , and most importantly we don't have to put up with Chavez .  :lol:

I told FILL COMPLETELLY the tank with what you get a gal

:slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap:

and laugh with the ppl disgrace is not funny

for example, I'm not laughing of your intelligence


But I'm  :lol: at yours
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Mike DC

Europe & America just chose very different ways of handling their fuel in the 20th century.  There's benefits & problems with both ways. 

On the surface it sounds like American people are getting a hell of a lot more out of the gasoline deal than Europeans, but IMO that's really oversimplifying things.  Our lifestyle & countryside has been severely damaged by the mass overusage of automobiles in a whole bunch of ways that theirs has not.

 

Nacho-RT74

yeah, retardeds use to laugh of everything around, is one of the symptoms.

BTW, Venezuela is in America  :icon_smile_big:



Coming back to topic...

I can't understand either the higher prices in Europe, being half of world bigger oil Companies are Europeans.  :shruggy:

Gas ( and gas-oil ) prices are a BARGAIN down here due the Goverment subsidies. Since train rails are practically unexistant down here, and those what exist are to Iron Industries on the south ( Venezuela not only produces oil, also is a great source of Iron and Bauxite ), maybe that could be the reason to keep lower gas prices.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Hemidog

Quote from: suntech on January 12, 2008, 05:12:25 PM
Here in Norway the gas is app 8,60 usd/ us gallon right now :brickwall:


thank god for my 4-banger mazda!

Damned67

Based on today's price and the current exchange rate, we're paying $4.50US per gallon, and that's for the low grade stuff.
It's somewhat interesting, as we (Australia) have numerous refineries and a huge supply of oil, yet we still seem to be effected by the middle-east oil situation. But hey, that's no different to anywhere else, right?

Mike DC

Yep.

Crude oil usually goes out of the ground and into the worldwide oil market before going back to its original country's refineries.  So a bunch of countries can be oil exporters and still have gasoline price flucutations because of trouble elsewhere in the world.   

 

Dave22443

So can I assume that their prices tripled during the same time frame as ours?

Also, I've heard a lot about how America needs more refineries since a new one hasn't been built in 20 or 30 years.  If we did build a few more refineries, how would that impact our prices at the pump?

It sounds like Australia is oil independent but its prices are still global.  If thats true, would making America less dependent (or completely independent) of foreign oil make any difference at the pump?

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CB

$8.3 per US gallon here in Belgium....  :eek2:
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Hemidoug

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 14, 2008, 08:25:32 PM
Fear not, Hydrogen cars are on the way.   :icon_smile_wink:

If the oil exporting countries don't start to stabilize the price of oil....soon they will be serving it up for breakfast to their "constituents". One thing about supply and demand and free markets...as soon as the price gets to a point that make alternatives more cost effective, they may be priced right out of the market...

BTW...Chavez subsidises the price of gas in his country...that's why it's so cheep. Most of the ME contries do the same. When I was in Bahrain the price of gas was 25 cents....So all those extra $$$$$ we pay for a barrel of oil are helping to pay for their gas...I wonder how they would feel if the same were true with wheat.....

The bigest issue with the rise of oil prices is the devalue of the US dollar. The rise in oil prices are almost the same as the rise of gold prices.... :scratchchin:
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Charger1973

Nacho you should buy stuff from the U.S. and pay in gas.   ;)

Tilar

And to think that I bitched and raised hell when it went to $0.65 a gallon. If I remember right, it was $0.29 a gallon when I started driving, and smokes cost me $0.34 a pack.  :RantExplode:
Dave  

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Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Hemidoug on January 14, 2008, 08:35:35 PM

BTW...Chavez subsidises the price of gas in his country...that's why it's so cheep. Most of the ME contries do the same. When I was in Bahrain the price of gas was 25 cents....So all those extra $$$$$ we pay for a barrel of oil are helping to pay for their gas...I wonder how they would feel if the same were true with wheat.....


Is not Chavez, it has been allways since EVER in that way, so is not just right a Chavez political decision.

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on January 13, 2008, 02:01:39 PM

Gas ( and gas-oil ) prices are a BARGAIN down here due the Goverment subsidies. Since train rails are practically unexistant down here, and those what exist are to Iron Industries on the south ( Venezuela not only produces oil, also is a great source of Iron and Bauxite ), maybe that could be the reason to keep lower gas prices.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Mike DC

 
I agree that the American dollar is just getting lower as much as the gas is getting any higher.  IMHO America's internal inflation issue is much worse than the official statistics let on.