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If Mopar never existed...

Started by zerfetzen, December 27, 2007, 11:23:20 AM

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Which would you prefer for muscle cars, motors, etc.?

Ford
27 (33.3%)
GM
45 (55.6%)
European
3 (3.7%)
Asian
0 (0%)
Other
6 (7.4%)

Total Members Voted: 81

zerfetzen

If you couldn't choose Mopar as your favorite, who would you choose, and why?  What would make your choice better than the alternatives?
Current Daily Driver: 2006 Dodge Charger RT
Current Project: 1969 Dodge Charger
Previous Cars I want back: 1974 Barracuda, 1973 Cuda

Ghoste

Probably Ford because there are so many of the damned things locally that it's fairly easy to get into one.  Pontiacs are a very close second for me though.  I've always been a closet Firebird fan.

Harlow

Pontiac. I like GTOs just as much as I like mopars.

Charger-Bodie

Pontiac was the closest thing to being as cool as a mopar IMO :yesnod:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

68RT4ME

Man, this is a tough one to admit but, if not a MOPAR, I'd have to say......... A 1970 Boss 302 Mustang, Calipso Orange with a shaker hood and rear window louvers. I saw one in a magazine once years ago and that particular photo of it left a lasting impression on me. It was lowered 3 inches in the back and 2 in front and it's stance was just cool. I'm no Ford guy but have owned some in the past. (felt I needed to say that...lol)
'69 Charger R/T, T5, Tan Top, Tan Interior, Black Stripe. Complete numbers matching 440 4Spd

zerfetzen

I'll 'fess up.  My wife likes old Mustangs.  I keep trying to talk her into an E-body, because she wants her classic car to be much smaller than the Charger.  But it looks like in a few years when the Charger's done, I'll be working on a Mustang.  But my vote had to go to GM.  If Mopar didn't exist, I always kinda liked the 327, 400, 427, and 454, but have never been a big fan of any Ford motors, probably the 351 Cleveland I suppose.  As for rear ends, I guess I like the Ford 9", if a Dana 60 or 8 3/4 don't exist.  But for car bodies, I've always liked the GTO, Firebird, Nova, and Chevelle.  Overall, I'll pick GM if I have to.
Current Daily Driver: 2006 Dodge Charger RT
Current Project: 1969 Dodge Charger
Previous Cars I want back: 1974 Barracuda, 1973 Cuda

hemihead

 I would go with a 69 or 70 Cougar .
Lots of people talkin' , few of them know
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kamkuda

Quote from: Harlow on December 27, 2007, 11:36:19 AM
Pontiac. I like GTOs just as much as I like mopars.

I was looking for a GTO when I bought my Cuda
http://musclecar-logbook.net/GMC/1969_GTO_Judge__0255.jpg
Pontiac is a bit different and the owners are usually very good people too.


PocketThunder

Quote from: kamkuda on December 27, 2007, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Harlow on December 27, 2007, 11:36:19 AM
Pontiac. I like GTOs just as much as I like mopars.

I was looking for a GTO when I bought my Cuda
http://musclecar-logbook.net/GMC/1969_GTO_Judge__0255.jpg
Pontiac is a bit different and the owners are usually very good people too.



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694spdRT

1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: PocketThunder on December 27, 2007, 12:13:28 PM
Quote from: kamkuda on December 27, 2007, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Harlow on December 27, 2007, 11:36:19 AM
Pontiac. I like GTOs just as much as I like mopars.

I was looking for a GTO when I bought my Cuda
http://musclecar-logbook.net/GMC/1969_GTO_Judge__0255.jpg
Pontiac is a bit different and the owners are usually very good people too.



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That is one very sharp Goat Paul !!!! :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

rusty lee

I would have gotten a camaro with hideaway headlights closest thing to a charger imo.  and this would be chevy camaro . com   :eek2:

Khyron

GM, but only the Pontiac Division.


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19Charger68

1966 GTO - almost as good looking as a 2nd generation Charger and pretty darn quick too.
Bruce

Ponch ®

I'd either be a Chevy guy (always liked 67-68 Camaros) or a Euro-snob (I have a thing for Porsches and some BMW's)
"I spent most of my money on cars, birds, and booze. The rest I squandered." - George Best

Chrysler Performance West

T3/RT

 :lol: I have a hard enough time trying to imagine what Mopar would be if the Charger never existed. Would I like Mopar as much as I do?

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2002 Chrysler Sebring LXi Conv.
2005 Chrysler 300C
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT

dkn1997

70 trans am is so cool!!
RECHRGED

Manfred318

If MoPar never existed I would go with AMC or Cadillac. Ive always liked the AMCs especially the Javelins and Gremlins. I wouldnt turn down a '56-'75 Caddy either.


Current MoPars:
1968 Charger. 318 Out of commission:(
1975 Dart Swinger. 225 Pops daily ride.
1990 Dodge Ram. 360FI My daily ride.
2007 Magnum R/T. 5.7 Family wagon.

Ghoste

Wow!  Now that's showing some tastes from the opposite ends of the spectrum.

69bronzeT5

My dad had a '69 GTO Ram Air 3 4spd so I really like those. Here was his GTO :2thumbs::


And I find this GTO really sharp looking :drool5:


Also, my dad's friend had a '70 AMX, '70 GSX and a '71 Camaro RS Z28 so I really like those. I grew up around the GSX and the Camaro.

His AMX looked exactly like this one:


I have a picture of the GSX around here somewhere but this is good enough I guess:


And I know I have a picture of the Camaro but again, I guess this is good enough:



His Camaro was silver with black stripes. My dad bought a blue '71 Camaro RS Z28 back in 2000 and believe it or not, it turned out to be the TWIN to his friends car. My dad sold it back in 2002.
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

mikesbbody

the 69 gto is what id take (the judge) but to be honest if it came down to it probably nothing! id get into motorcycles.

Tilar

Lots of good choices there. 66 GTO is probably what I would work toward, But another one that I would consider would be the Gremlin that had the 401 Interceptor engine in it... That thing was FAST, but it had way too much engine for that cracker box body.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



1969chargerrtse

I can't imagine a Moparless world :'(, but if I had to, I'd like my 69 RS Z/28  and 69  396 Pace car back. :yesnod:
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

68charger383

I'll join the club and say Pontiac.

I was looking for a 67/68 Firebird when I came upon my Charger. I'm still looking for my 67/68 Firebird.

However, I own a 68 cougar...so I could go either way.

Just the Firebird is the one still missing from the garage
1968 Charger 383(Sold)
2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10

Daytona R/T SE

I've had some pretty cool Fords over the years, I'd probably try to find another '56 F100 and another '48 F1 Like I had years ago. My '39 Deluxe sedan project would get finished instead of sold if I had things to do over again, and my '40 Standard tudor would have never left.  :flame:  A fastback Torino would be cool to have...I've had several Pontiacs, too. I should have kept my 1960 Star Chief, my '68 Firebird and at least ONE of the '77-'79 Trans Ams I had back in the day.  :slap:

pettyfan43

I've had a little of everything, my FAvORITE Non Mopar I ever owned was a 71 Buick GS 350, triple black, I always wanted a 455 Stage 1 car or even a Stage 1 GSX in WHITE.


TruckDriver

I never was and am not now, sold on one brand of car. I like a little of everything. But If there was no Mopar, it would be GM cars. Why, because I like them as much as any Mopar around, always have, and always will. My next project will be a '80s Monte Carlo SS perferably. Or a Camero.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

69bronzeT5

Quote from: pettyfan43 on December 27, 2007, 06:07:36 PM
a Stage 1 GSX in WHITE.




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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

tan top

arrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhh no mopars  :bawling: well no mopar no car ;D seriously though , i think i would build my self a 69 Mercury cyclone spoiler 2 with a boss 429 & a 4 speed  or the torino  :yesnod:    , or might be the 70 T/A 455 HO  4 speed  :scratchchin:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

evil1

I'd have to say Pontiac also , Ive had a couple and you can't beat the torque .

Fitz73Chrgr

I really like 68, 69 and some 70 Chevelles, but recently I've taken a liking to 69 Mach 1s.  So I voted Ford. 
'73 Charger - project                '70 Charger - driver                 '66 Charger - survivor

Resto thread:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,89803.msg1019541.html#msg1019541

RD

Olds 442, Buick GSX, Pontiac GTO would be what I would like to have...

but what I would end up with would most likely be a Ford Mustang... easier to find.
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

Hemidoug

I choose Ford....'cause they have a Hemi as well (Boss 429). I wouldn't even have to change my name! :rofl:
71 R/T 440 6pak, 4spd Mr Norms GSD

Steve P.

My first 3 cars were 1) 1970' Pontiac Lemans Sport. 2) 1970' Chevelle' SS. 3) 1970' Buick Skylark Vert.  I had a thing for 70'GM coupe's.   4th car was a 71' Fury Sport (I think)....  :scratchchin:

Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Lowprofile

Good Question Bro......

I've always liked cars, period. Yea , I have favorites like everyone else, But I've never been a one brand only guy. I've had way more GM cars then Mopars.

I've always liked 55' Chevys......I would love to build a Black Gasser style, like in American Graffiti. :D
I also Love the 69 Camaro. I've owned a few of them :icon_smile_cool:
63 Pontiac Super Duty is a sweet ride......gotta love the land Yachts :cheers:
71 GSX in Yellow is a favorite  :drool5:

I'll even throw a bone to the Ford camp........70'-71' Torino GT's/ Cobra's are sweet rides  :2thumbs:
"Its better to live one day as a Lion than a Lifetime as a Lamb".

      "The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and will to carry on."

Proud Owner of:
1970 Dodge Charger R/T
1993 Dodge Ram Charger
1998 Freightliner Classic XL

rt green

i'd say '70 camaro. split bumper with a big block. got my ass handed to me street racing one time by one. well, at least he gave it back to me. 
third string oil changer

HeavyFuel

Even without the fictional world of no Mopars, I would still love to have a '69 Camaro.

Ghoste

Hah, I sometimes think it's the world of Mopars that's fictional.  :icon_smile_tongue:

69 OUR/TEA

Buicks,as I have been into Buicks as long as I have been into Mopars.My 87 GN I have owned for 16 years now,and my 70 455 Stage1 that I will be doing after the Charger.

69bronzeT5

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http://moparconnectionmagazine.com/



1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

JR

Pontiac GTO without a doubt. Although a GSX or 442 would both be a very close second. Pony cars are too small for me, I prefer the midsize big block muscle cars. 

Pontiac was the closest to matching Mopars "to hell with it this is cool" attitiude. Muscle cars are as much about attitude and style as they are performance.
70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

Joshua

I'd have to go with GM for muscle.....Oldsmobile in particular...442's don't get the respect that they deserve........

I wish I had my '66 back....plain-jane F85 with 442 option, 3.91's and a 4-speed..... :'(

Or my old Dynamic 88....these make killer customs and you just don't see 'em much...great lines....

I'd go Ford for hotrods.....either flathead or Olds rocket or Buick Nailhead for power..... :icon_smile_big:





Nacho-RT74

Mercedes. Not cheap to manteniance, but GOOD MADE, perfect fit pieces, lot of power ( when you paid for, of course ), safety, comfortable, one of the BEST HANDLING around. And replacement new original parts ALLMOST forever. If you don't find you can ask for factory to be special ordered made... not cheap of course but you have the option
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Chatt69chgr

Chevrolet--------I like the 66 Chevelle.  Also like the first gen camaros.  I just like the style of these.  And the idea that you can get virtually any part for them at very reasonable prices is a plus.  Also like the 350 small block.  A zillion speed parts for these.  But if I had the Chevelle, I would want the 396 in it. 

blackcharger


suntech

I woted GM, and my wish list would have been:  1:  69 Camaro, 2:  66 Chevelle, 3:  70 1/2 Camaro.   They would all be Pro Tourers :D
Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

Tarzan


69_500

Wow I'm really suprised that only one other person had the same thoughts as I did on this one.

If no Mopars existed then I'd got straight with the Fords, and straight to a 69 Boss 429 Mustang. That and I love the Talladega's as well, and who doesn't like the 427 Thunderbolts?



Side note the 62 Pontiac Catalina (Swiss cheese cars) are pretty nice too.

derailed

My all time favorite car

Ghoste

There were a lot of us picked Ford Danny, or do you mean the Boss 9 part?  I can't help wondering how the voting would look if the poll had broken GM down into divisions.  Given their engineering differences and inter-division rivalry in the 60's I think it would be a fair breakdown.  As an example, there are a lot more differences between the Pontiac and Buick lineup than Dodge and Plymouth from an engineering standpoint.

HeavyFuel

Quote from: 69_500 on December 29, 2007, 09:02:49 AM
Wow I'm really suprised that only one other person had the same thoughts as I did on this one.

If no Mopars existed then I'd got straight with the Fords, and straight to a 69 Boss 429 Mustang. That and I love the Talladega's as well, and who doesn't like the 427 Thunderbolts?



Side note the 62 Pontiac Catalina (Swiss cheese cars) are pretty nice too.

Had one, not a lightweight front end "swiss cheese" car, but a 389 CI, two door.   It had 16 k miles on it when I got it from my Grammy.   Ironically, I sold it to get my Charger.  :'(

1FastCharger

I'd go for a Ford, but not quite what you might think. I would get an Aussie Falcon.


66 A100 - 68 Charger - 69 Charger

TruckDriver

PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

TheGhost

If Mopar didn't exist, I'd probably own a LeMans/GTO right now.  Perferably a 66-67.  Easily the most beautiful car GM ever made.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

BronzeOnSteelies



Pontiac 455 HO

My first car was a 1973 Pontiac Grand Am with a 400 in it and next was a 78 Formula Firebird. I should have looked for a Charger but we really did not see them around. Not one in town or in our high school. Never really thought about it before.

I would go for a white on blue or blue on white 70 Trans Am or a

67/68 Firebird
68 MM1 (Turbine Bronze) R/T

Argos_Chargers

If MoPar didn't exist I'd probably be driveing a bone stock rice=grinder, be bored silly and have a WHOLR LOT nore money in my pocket. 
MoPar -- The only way to fly!

keepat

Looks like most would have a Pontiac if mopar never existed :scratchchin: My HS car was a 66 GTO and the 1st car I completely restored ground up was a 64 GTO. And I just bought a 1972 455 HO Trans Am as this years project car.
Pat

nakita7

GM, Pontiac GTO, Chevelle, GSX or a Javelin.

Lowprofile

Quote from: keepat on January 01, 2008, 10:42:20 PM
Looks like most would have a Pontiac if mopar never existed :scratchchin: My HS car was a 66 GTO and the 1st car I completely restored ground up was a 64 GTO. And I just bought a 1972 455 HO Trans Am as this years project car.
Pat

Wow! Nice score bro. Always one of my favorites. :2thumbs:
"Its better to live one day as a Lion than a Lifetime as a Lamb".

      "The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and will to carry on."

Proud Owner of:
1970 Dodge Charger R/T
1993 Dodge Ram Charger
1998 Freightliner Classic XL

Brock Samson

If MOPAR didn't exist I'd have to invent it...  :slap:

1.  '67-'68 Shelby.

2.  1969 427 Vette.

3. '70 Trans Am.

4. 1971 Monte Carlo SS 454.

5. '66 Riviara Grand Sport.

6. '69 AMX.


   that's the short list.  :shruggy:

73chgrSE

That would be a lame world indeed. The other manufacturers products would not have been as good without mopars competiton around. But I would have to go with pontiac. Either a firebird or gto judge.

69_500

I was refering to the Boss 429's in particular. I saw that quite a few people picked Fords. Seems a lot more like the Pontiacs though.

I gotta agree that the 1970 GTO Judge's are pretty nice.

I will also admit that I was very impressed with seeing some of the origional 62 Catalina Swiss Cheese cars last year. Sat down and talked to Mr. GTO about them for quite a while. For those of you trying to figure out who he is think "THE FARMER". Ernie Beswick. Great man to talk to. Got a video interview set up with him to talk about racing the cars back in the 60's through the mid 70's. I wasn't aware that he had drove in Nascar as well.

Ghoste