is there hope for lost buildsheets

[thatildo68]

sometime ago on ebay i remember the seller of a charger sayin that for a small fee a lost broadcast sheet could be reprinted
frorm chrysler archives all they need is the vin is this true? man id be real happy to get documentation for my 68 it seems to be the missing
piece of the puzzle   

[69bronzeT5]

that would be sweet BUT I would think they would need the fender tag info too for it.

[hemihead]

Ah I don't think

[y3chargerrt]

Good luck barking up that tree!

[Ghoste]

Chrysler Historical can provide the information needed if it's a 67 or older (to a point) but from 68 up you are out of luck, the records were lost some time ago.

[moparraw]

HEY, CHECK WITH T.D.C. Good club to join if you havent yet.

[resq302]

Chrysler Historical can provide the information needed if it's a 67 or older (to a point) but from 68 up you are out of luck, the records were lost some time ago.

Its not that they were lost, its that they were lost in a fire.  Everything from 1968-the mid 1970s were destroyed in the fire.

[Nacho-RT74]

Chrysler Historical can provide the information needed if it's a 67 or older (to a point) but from 68 up you are out of luck, the records were lost some time ago.

Its not that they were lost, its that they were lost in a fire. Everything from 1968-the mid 1970s were destroyed in the fire.

interesting story to tell... does someone have some info about ?

[resq302]

that was the answer I got from calling Chrysler historical when I was trying to find factory literature about my charger when I was trying to find out if raised white letters were factory optional in 1969.  They told me those tires started being optional in 1970, a long with a lot of other info.

[1969chargerrtse]

Boy that's odd?  That's the same story with 69 up GM muscle cars.  I Had a 69 Big Block pace car, they made 3475.  Nobody knows for sure how many Big Blocks because "They were destroyed in a warehouse fire"  What did they use the same warehouse? 

[69_500]

I've been under the impression that you could get the raised white letter tires in 1969. At least I've been told that you could get them on a Daytona. Granted they came out at around the same time as the 70's after being converted.

[bull]

I've been under the impression that you could get the raised white letter tires in 1969. At least I've been told that you could get them on a Daytona. Granted they came out at around the same time as the 70's after being converted.

Dude, did you post in the wrong thread?

[Ghoste]

Read two posts up from that one Bull. 

[bull]

  Ooops.

[69_500]

Nope not the wrong thread, but made a comment about a different topic that wasn't listed in the heading. My bad.

It wouldn't be the first time I posted in the wrong thread though.

[68charger383]

Ford guys only lucked out since a secretary was smart enough to grab all the build sheets for the cars which Ford/Mercury were going to throw out. The info now generates a nice penny via Marti report

[hemigeno]

I've heard rumors that the whole "lost in a fire" answer from Chrysler Hysterical (pun intended) is a bunch of B.S., and that somewhere in Detroit there is a fireproof vault chock full of all the records for every vehicle built by Chrysler. 

Personally, I don't know if that particular conspiracy theory makes sense.  It would be puzzling as to why they would make records available for '67 & earlier, but not for '68+.  Based on some conversations that Danny & I had with a 52+ year employee @ Chrysler, it would not surprise me at all if they just simply pitched the records in a dumpster.

Somebody, somewhere knows what the deal is.  There would be a whole lot of people happy to see the "Mother Lode" of information unearthed - and perhaps more than one big-name car restorer running for cover...   

[hemigeno]

I've been under the impression that you could get the raised white letter tires in 1969. At least I've been told that you could get them on a Daytona. Granted they came out at around the same time as the 70's after being converted.

Danny,

I think some of the paperwork we brought back from Detroit holds the answer to that question.  I read in that stack of stuff that the RWL tires were a very late model-year option on a weird SuperBee option package (or something like that).  For the most part, RWL tires were introduced as an option for the '70 models.

[/hijack]

[69_500]

I was thinking that I was reading something along those lines in that paperwork, but to be honest its big stack, and well once I read something in there and finding it again is 2 different things.

However I was thinking that one of the origional Daytona owners I've talked to said he had a choice of raised White letters or the redlines on his car. I could be wrong on that one too, and it might be one of the origional owners of a Superbee or something else that said that. When you get into the survivor tent and start talking to the groups of origional owners that hang out in there its sometimes hard to remember who is telling you what. Which is why I'm always glad to have the video camera present. makes it easier to go back later and refresh memory.

[farmerjon]

our 12-73 built 74 with the original seats/covers had 2 build sheets underneath  one was correct one wasn't  i will have to dig out vin on thye other one

[bull]

So what's the cutoff date on this info? You guys are saying '67 but does that mean they have info on some of the '68 model year cars since they were actually built in '67? Are we talking model year or calendar year?

[resq302]

That, I don't know.  I did not get an elaborate response from the person I was talking to at Chrysler Historical.

[hemihead]

I've heard rumors that the whole "lost in a fire" answer from Chrysler Hysterical (pun intended) is a bunch of B.S., and that somewhere in Detroit there is a fireproof vault chock full of all the records for every vehicle built by Chrysler. 

Personally, I don't know if that particular conspiracy theory makes sense.  It would be puzzling as to why they would make records available for '67 & earlier, but not for '68+.  Based on some conversations that Danny & I had with a 52+ year employee @ Chrysler, it would not surprise me at all if they just simply pitched the records in a dumpster.

Somebody, somewhere knows what the deal is.  There would be a whole lot of people happy to see the "Mother Lode" of information unearthed - and perhaps more than one big-name car restorer running for cover...   

I understand it was model years 68 - 74 or 75 that were destroyed . I agree that it seems strange that those were the years everyone wants to know about but I guess it could be true .  If they didn't burn up they would have been trashed anyway in the late 70's /early 80's during Mopar's dark days . Remember how many parts the dealers were trashing in the city dumps back then ?

[69_500]

I'm actually suprised that a lot more of the information didn't go the way of the trash dumpster if you ask me.

[bull]

So what kind of info are us '68-'74 guys missing out on that the '66-'67 guys enjoy? I've never really seen anyone displaying more facts about the 1st gen Chargers than the 2nd and 3rd gens.

[hemihead]

They could go back and get info like Dealer sold to or if it was a sales bank car or if it was ordered .

[69_500]

Even a copy of the IBM punch card for the car too. There was quite a bit of information on these cars at one time, and the first generation guys have the honor of still being able to get theirs.

[1972Rallye]

The IBM cards were used to generate the broadcast sheets.  If you're lucky enough to get a copy of one of those (and be able to read it) you'll have everything that was on the broadcast sheet.

That said... My dad used to develope computer systems for Chrysler plant/engineering operations.  He used to bring home stacks of IBM cards for my sister and I to use for our entertainment.  The cards were used for many other aplications as well.  This was in the early '70s...