440 emblem on a '68? Update w/pics!!

[RECHRGD]

Would this be too tacky?  I know the numbers crowd will cringe at the thought, but here goes.  There is no engine call out on a '68 unless you happen to be a happy hemi owner.  I get more people asking me in the middle of traffic if the car is a 440 than if it's a hemi.  I've always liked the look of the hemi emblem on the doors.  So I was thinking of having the same emblems made for my car, but in place of 'hemi' I'd have '440'.  It would look like a stock piece.  They would be put on with mastic, so as not to drill the doors.  So what do you guys think?  Bob

[pettyfan43]

If you aren't drilling Holes, I say have at it. They can always be taken back off, but then again, it is YOUR car, drill the holes if you want, make it your own! 

They look kinda cool on some of the cars. I have seen a few.

Wouldn't interest me, but I think 68-70 Chargers are perfection ANYWAY so I don't think they need add ons.

[bull]

The R/T stripe isn't enough of a call out?

[RECHRGD]

The R/T stripe isn't enough of a call out?

Most (non-mopar nuts) people are clueless about what an R/T could have under the hood, but they remember the numbers, 383/426/440.  Tons of people ask if it's a 383 and are surprised when I tell them it's a 440.

[rusty lee]

you should do whatever you want it's your car. I plan on doing an r/t stripe but replacing r/t with my intials..   

[WheresMyCharger]

My license plate on my 69 read:  FOUR 40  that took the guess work out...

[bull]

The R/T stripe isn't enough of a call out?

Most (non-mopar nuts) people are clueless about what an R/T could have under the hood, but they remember the numbers, 383/426/440. Tons of people ask if it's a 383 and are surprised when I tell them it's a 440.

In that case, if you think it's important, a small badge would be the most subtle way of doing it. I always hate to see anything mess with the flow of the 2nd generation Charger body design but I suppose a small badge would work. Are you talking about the '66-'67-type badge?

[firefighter3931]

Doug (R2) has a set of 440 Magnum door badges on his 69 rt/se car....looks good to me ! 

He's sandbagging though....the beast has a 496 stroker under the hood.  Those Mustang guys will never know what hit them ! 


Ron

[RECHRGD]

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In that case, if you think it's important, a small badge would be the most subtle way of doing it. I always hate to see anything mess with the flow of the 2nd generation Charger body design but I suppose a small badge would work. Are you talking about the '66-'67-type badge?

I'm thinking of having a badge fabricated to look just like the one that would have come on a '68 hemi car except for the lettering.  Bob

Doug (R2) has a set of 440 Magnum door badges on his 69 rt/se car....looks good to me ! 

He's sandbagging though....the beast has a 496 stroker under the hood.  Those Mustang guys will never know what hit them ! 


Ron

HMMMM, that's something to think about and would be cheaper than having custom ones done.  Bob

[8WHEELER]

I did it in 79, along with side mounted R/T badges. Hell I did not have any other chargers around, or
mopar people in my town that I knew of. If you look at the FSM it shows the Emblems for Coronet
and Charger, so I thought they were supposed to be there      drilled holes and everything.
The 440 emblems I put on the doors right where the Hemi emblems go, they were off a Coronet 440.
To tell you the truth, nobody gave me any shit about it, probably because all of my friends were
Cheby and Ferd guys     and they would have no clue. But after about 6mo I did have
a guy at the track tell me ''you know those did not come stock'' is when I found out. That was
fine, I did not like the looks of the big R/T emblems much anyway, so I took the 440 emblems
off at the same time.

I get the same thing Bob.........  but most seem to ask me if its a 440 6pk car     ummmm
no, the 6pk did not come out in a charger till 70, I find myself saying this way to often.........

Anyway, like I said I did have them for a while, but they did not do much for me, But I
found that out after I drilled holes and put them on. Hell I get people at shows looking at
the engine asking what I have in it    if I am there its hard not to laugh, I am not one
for staying at the car much, but my wife answers the question all the time.

Dan

[RECHRGD]

Hi Dan!!  I was just thinking that a emblem that looked exactly like would have come on a '68 R/T except for a change in the lettering (that would identify what's under the hood) would be kinda cool.   Bob

[68charger383]

Hey make it your own!

Could just put on a license plate frame saying 68 R/T 440 or a coronet 440 emblem on the door would look cool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-1969-GTX-CORONET-R-T-1970-SUPER-BERR-440-EMBLEM-NOS_W0QQitemZ230205665038QQihZ013QQcategoryZ34204QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[8WHEELER]

Hey make it your own!

or a coronet 440 emblem on the door would look cool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-1969-GTX-CORONET-R-T-1970-SUPER-BERR-440-EMBLEM-NOS_W0QQitemZ230205665038QQihZ013QQcategoryZ34204QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That is what I told him I did, but with a 68 Coronet emblem. I might look for an old picture for you Bob, if you
wanted to see how it looked on my car 27yrs ago, I would need to scan a old old old picture   

Dan

[UFO]

I think that would look great if you used that 440(ebay link)style numbers combined with the rectangular door badge.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

   I get more people asking me in the middle of traffic if the car is a 440 than if it's a hemi. 

Me too.....thats why I took the confusion out of it     

[bull]

Hey make it your own!

Could just put on a license plate frame saying 68 R/T 440 or a coronet 440 emblem on the door would look cool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-1969-GTX-CORONET-R-T-1970-SUPER-BERR-440-EMBLEM-NOS_W0QQitemZ230205665038QQihZ013QQcategoryZ34204QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yea, I like that one too.

[Ghoste]

I'd go for the smaller 67 style one myself and put it on the door where the Hemi emblem goes on a 68 or 69. 

[R2]

Good pic Ron,,,
Before I bought my Charger,,,,14 yrs ago,,,,it had a HEMI in it,,,,,and the prior owner had HEMI tags on the doors........
The car is originally a 440 car,,,,
When i bought the car,,,,,,there were no HEMI tags on the door,,,but the holes were still there,,,,,,
I didnt want any water to get in there,,,,so,,,i bought some of the 440 emblems,,,,,and used some 2 sided tape to hold them on,,,,,"till i paint the car next year",,( which never seems/seemed to happen)

My car is also a stripe delete car,,,,,,
I really like the stripe look,,,,,so i ordered a stipe without the R/T part cut out,,,,,,,(just a solid stripe),,,,,,,,,and then put the emblems back on in place where the emblem holes are....
Eventually,,,,I am going to repaint the car,,,,and have the emblem holes in the door filled,,,,,,and make the stripe portion correct,,,,,,,
mine is not "stock",,appearing,,,,,,,,but i didnt want it to look funky either,,,,,hopefully it looks ok......

[RECHRGD]

Thanks for all the input guys!  RD, your car is awesom!  Does anyone have a close up picture of an original rectangular HEMI badge and the exact measurments?  Thanks,  Bob

[R2]

Here you go,,,,,,,,,,,,you can get them from Year One,,,,,,not sure on the size/measurements.....
Doug (R2)

[dkn1997]

now its time to photoshop that to say 440

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Johntpr with the F6 Daytona, had his brother make up some magnetic Hemi door emblems on a goof.....maybe you can do the same ....make them magnetic?

[bull]

Johntpr with the F6 Daytona, had his brother make up some magnetic Hemi door emblems on a goof.....maybe you can do the same ....make them magnetic?

That would be much better than drilling holes, obviously. The only thing about magnets is getting the particles stuck to the back that scratch the paint.

[70charginglizard]

just put one of these signs up in your window...

http://cgi.ebay.com/DANGER-440-VOLTS-New-Aluminum-12x18-Sign_W0QQitemZ200094975003QQihZ010QQcategoryZ47116QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

[RECHRGD]

I get more people asking me in the middle of traffic if the car is a 440 than if it's a hemi.

Me too.....thats why I took the confusion out of it

Chris, is your car the 440 HEMI or just the standard one?

Here you go,,,,,,,,,,,,you can get them from Year One,,,,,,not sure on the size/measurements.....
Doug (R2)

Thanks Doug!   It's even on the correct color car!

[RECHRGD]

Johntpr with the F6 Daytona, had his brother make up some magnetic Hemi door emblems on a goof.....maybe you can do the same ....make them magnetic?

That would be much better than drilling holes, obviously. The only thing about magnets is getting the particles stuck to the back that scratch the paint.

I would just put them on with the same mastic that is used on modern cars to attach emblems.  You can always heat them up and remove them if you wanted.   Bob

[R2]

Thanks Doug!    It's even on the correct color car!

No problem,,,,I do what i can......lol

[HITMAN 149]

i think it's YOUR car... DO WHAT YOU WANT!!! IT IF YOU LIKE IT>>>>>>>>> THEN DO IT!!!!!! to HELLLL WITH ANYBODY ELSE!!! other than our good guys just giving you good technical advice as to not butcher up holes in your car & the best ways to go about stuff!!
i think it would look pretty cool... i like the door badges on the 1st gens.. it would prob fool alot of people who know where that sacred "HEMI" badge goes...if they only saw it from a distance.....and didn't get to see it close up!!! hahahahaha

[RECHRGD]

Yea, I'm going to do it.  I'll just do some research to find out the proper measurments and find a good local fabricator to make them.  Bob

[UFO]

I have a pair of those emblems.
Overall dim. 5 1/8 x 1 1/8.
side view  3/8 bottom x 1/4 at the top
raised portion with the lettering 4 7/8 x 13/16.

[HITMAN 149]

CMON YA TEASE!!!!!!!!! PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[RECHRGD]

I have a pair of those emblems.
Overall dim. 5 1/8 x 1 1/8.
side view  3/8 bottom x 1/4 at the top
raised portion with the lettering 4 7/8 x 13/16.

Thanks UFO !   So it looks like they are on a slight upward angle, right?  I never realized that.  Bob

[UFO]

Yes there's an angle to them.
The letter section is raised slightly as well.

[Ghoste]

Isn't there a slight bow to them end to end as well?

[UFO]

Hey Hitman,, How's this for a tease  LOL

[HITMAN 149]

nice!!! that's a cool pic!!!!

[UFO]

Ghoste, I put a straight edge against the face its flat.Against the rear its got a very slight bow,a millimeter or two at the most.

[Ghoste]

I thought there was.  I have one stuck on my toolbox and I was sure there was a small gap along the back edge although just going by my poor memory I thought it was more than that.  No big deal then.

[Jonas_N]

Maybe I am a little late here, but...
I have looked for the exact same thing, especially when i am a bigger fan of the 440 than the hemi.
I looked for emblems to put on the door where the HEMI emblem sits on the -68.

Then I found this good looking 440 MAGNUM emblem that was said to come from the 67 Charger?
I bought it and was happy.

Then one day when I red in my 68 service manual, I stumbled over this:




...now...why doesnt the book show a pic of the square hemi emblem? 

[Brock Samson]

cool info!   

[Death1970Proof]

A cool idea but I just like for the other guys to guess whats under my hood.

[tan top]

  good info ( Jonas_N)  never seen that before , & it definatly  a second generation door 

[Khyron]

Different is good.

For the record, when we were putting the stripes on the car someone came in the garage and asked "What engine does this have it it" 

So the number doesn't always help

[TUFCAT]

Just because something appeared in the graphics manual doesn't mean that it ever appeared on a car. The way the page is shown on the picture may hide a CANCELLED stamp. I have never seen a production Charger with that emblem nor any other emblem except HEMI.

[PocketThunder]

I was going to catch up with the times and make a 7.2L emblem for my Charger doors.  or is it 7.3L now, lets see, 440, 0.40 over =   

[Ghoste]

The 2nd gen fsm's also have pics in them that clearly depict portions of a 1st gen.  I think some of those drawings were less about prefect representation than they were general trim placment.

[Jonas_N]

Just because something appeared in the graphics manual doesn't mean that it ever appeared on a car. The way the page is shown on the picture may hide a CANCELLED stamp. I have never seen a production Charger with that emblem nor any other emblem except HEMI.

Nope, no cancelled stamp in my book.
And there is no drawings of the first gen, its second gen all the way.

So it prolly was an option.
Once I have seen the V8 emblem on...but I have never seen the 440 magnum or 426 hemi emblem on any picture.
The square hemi emblem though is quite common.

[Ghoste]

And there is no drawings of the first gen, its second gen all the way.

Check your drawings for rear 1/4 panel ornamentation.  That for one sure looks like a 67 with 68 taillights to me.  There is also a disclaimer in the front of those manuals and parts catalogs that lets Chrysler off the hook for any mistakes inside them so until I see some documented survivors with those emblems I'm not going to put any faith in them being available just because the service manual portrays them in a line drawing.  Hell, the 70 fsm has a line drawing of a 68 grille to show where the vacuum actuators go for the headlight doors.   (of couse they also have pics of the electric motor placement on another page so all is well)

[bull]

Different is good.

For the record, when we were putting the stripes on the car someone came in the garage and asked "What engine does this have it it" 

So the number doesn't always help

Yea, and it's not always the guy's fault who's asking. I remember back when I was a kid and first asked about one of those stupid Olds 442s. Every other muscle car in the country at the time that had numbers on it somewhere was advertising the engine size. Not that thing.

[mike337]

Just found this older thread.  I have a 69 Charger that will have a 440 Stroker in it.  I want to put an emblem on the door in the vein of the Hemi Badge, but thinking of 440+6, or 512+6.  I remember seeing a vendor at the Indianapolis MOPAR show 2 or 3 years ago who designed custom emblems.  Anyone know who it was, or if anyone else is doing this kind of work?

Mike

[RECHRGD]

Just found this older thread.  I have a 69 Charger that will have a 440 Stroker in it.  I want to put an emblem on the door in the vein of the Hemi Badge, but thinking of 440+6, or 512+6.  I remember seeing a vendor at the Indianapolis MOPAR show 2 or 3 years ago who designed custom emblems.  Anyone know who it was, or if anyone else is doing this kind of work?

Mike

I'm glad you revived this thread Mike!  I got side tracked with engine upgrades shortly after this thread died and frankly, forgot about it.  I was at a GoodGuys show in Spokane today and started asking around.  I was given the name of a company in Beaverton, Oregon called "CON2R" www.con2r.com.  I just got off the phone with them and they are going to call me on Monday or Tuesday with a quote.  I'm sure it will be pricey, but he said that they were starting to go after the onesy twosy type stuff, so we'll see.  I'll post what info I have when I get it.   Bob

[RECHRGD]

Well, I just got the quote.  I can have two badges made for the bargain basement price of $1,500.00.      I think I'll try to make my own.  Bob

[FastbackJon]

After you get 440 badges on your fender the question changes from "What engine do you have?" to "Does it really have a 440 in it?"

[BIRD67]

Would the Badges from like A Dodge Coronet 440 ( The model, not engine) work? That's always a possibility too..

[68chargerdave]

I was thinking of doing the same thing.I think I saw a pair of them on Egay.In my case,I took a pair of R/T emblems and put them on my rear quarters instead of the strips.Not politically correct for a 68 but it looks awesome on my white Charger! Do what makes you happy!

[Brass]

I bought a pair of brushed "440 Magnum" emblems off ebay but I'm not sure I'm going to use them.  (I was hoping they'd look close to what R2 has on his doors.)  They seem a little big and would require drilling.  
When they came in the mail, my girlfriend said "Wow, jewlery for the Charger..."   I could have taken that to mean something else but her enthusiasm was obvious.  

[Jonas_N]

I put mine on the car. 
(No drilling)

[RECHRGD]

I just ordered a couple out of the mopar performance catalog.  It's just a plain 440 tag that went on the hoods of the 69 GTX/Coronet R/T and SuperBee hoods.  should look good!  Bob

[HITMAN 149]

I just ordered a couple out of the mopar performance catalog.  It's just a plain 440 tag that went on the hoods of the 69 GTX/Coronet R/T and SuperBee hoods.  should look good!  Bob

yea i would like that better.. just a nice simple plain "440" take pics!!!!!!! 

[RECHRGD]

Well I got them and their on.  I like how they look, but was disappointed with the quality.  I put them on with mastic so had to cut off the pins.  I had to be very careful and use a dremel tool to do the cutting.  They are made out of aluminum and are very fragile.  The casting is not perfect and the '0' tilts out about 1/16" from the other numbers.  I had to break it off and glue it on separatly to make it work on the drivers side.  The flat black paint used for the accents flakes off if you look at it wrong.  Other than that, I love em!  What do you guys think??  Bob

[moparstuart]

looks great

[Brock Samson]

 hard to tell from the pics but they look small,..
I always thought about painting huge 7.4s on the quarters ahead of the doors to scare the crap out of the mustang kids...   

[RECHRGD]

looks great

Thanks!  They are a little smaller than I was thinking, but I like the look.  If they were much bigger they wouldn't look like they belonged there.  Bob

[69*F5*SE]

I think they they look great.   

[69bronzeT5]

I would of centered them between the scallops but otherwise I like it! Looks great! That $1,500 quote for TWO emblems is just RIDICULOUS!!!

[Brock Samson]

  what are these from?..



then there's these..





im just grabbing these off the web..

[RECHRGD]

  what are these from?..


Brock--I'm not sure except for the bottom one.  That's from the 1st generation Chargers.  A few others here have used those, and they even show up in the '68 FSM, but I just wanted a plain 440 emblem.  Bob

[Patronus]

  custom=good

[HITMAN 149]

  i like them... looks cool!!! but pricey!! damnnnnn!!!! lol

[bull]

custom=good

Custom does not always equal good (see below) but I think what Bob did is subtle and attractive.

[R2]

Looks good RECHRGD.
My car had holes already drilled from the previous owner,,,,
I wish i could have used something smaller like the ones you put on....
I used some 2 sided tape,,,and the emblems cover the holes,,and prevent any water entry,,,(that was my biggest concern),,,

I dont have any good, close up photo's.....

Doug

[RECHRGD]

i like them... looks cool!!! but pricey!! damnnnnn!!!! lol

Hitman,  I got these out of the mopar performance catalog for $45.00 ea..  I would never have paid the $1,500.00 for the custom ones I was thinking about having made.  Bob

[HITMAN 149]

ohhhhhhh ok!! great!!!!!!! sweeet deal then!!!!