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Jamie Lynn Spears

Started by 69bronzeT5, December 19, 2007, 08:48:56 PM

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Old Moparz

I see a few varied opinions on Britney's sister & could personally care less about a celebrity's personal life, but there is another good reason to mention this topic. (Even on a car forum.) It might bring some attention to anyone on here as a parent, or potential parent, that maybe the whole idea of "hero" or "idol" worship ain't such a great idea for your kids. I'm not criticizing or being hypocritical, I've been a fan of certain celebrities as a kid, & still hold some value to some of it, but not in the same way.

My point is, maybe if your kid understands the difference between entertainment & real life, they won't try to emulate. Better to show them that the people on TV are just life-like cartoons that are just as dumb.
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my73charger

 :dancinglock:  Truthfully I am right with RD on this.  I am fed up with hearing about these poor celebrities and their troubles.  I could care less.  They are not my role models and I try hard to make sure they are not my kids role models either.

bull

Quote from: my73charger on December 20, 2007, 10:44:44 AM
I could care less. 

Then why don't you? :D Me, I couldn't care less.

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John_Kunkel

Quote from: dukeboy_318 on December 20, 2007, 01:13:02 AM
  and people wonder why 14 year olds are pregnant, look who they are watching even on kids shows. Its a shame  :rotz: :rotz:

There were no promiscuous TV shows when I was a kid and we were just as horny as kids nowadays.

With all the media attention on this I haven't heard anybody mention that, in California,  the sire of Jamie Lynn's kid is guilty of statutory rape. (He 18, she 16)  Wonder if he'll be prosecuted.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

justin1987

Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 20, 2007, 04:08:07 PM
With all the media attention on this I haven't heard anybody mention that, in California,  the sire of Jamie Lynn's kid is guilty of statutory rape. (He 18, she 16)  Wonder if he'll be prosecuted.

I was wondering the same thing myself when I found out he was 19.

Ponch ®

Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 20, 2007, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: dukeboy_318 on December 20, 2007, 01:13:02 AM
  and people wonder why 14 year olds are pregnant, look who they are watching even on kids shows. Its a shame  :rotz: :rotz:

There were no promiscuous TV shows when I was a kid and we were just as horny as kids nowadays.

With all the media attention on this I haven't heard anybody mention that, in California,  the sire of Jamie Lynn's kid is guilty of statutory rape. (He 18, she 16)  Wonder if he'll be prosecuted.

exactly...people act as if there was no boinking until they started showing sex on tv.

Blaming TV or Paris Hilton for your daughter for being a slut is like blaming eBay for blowing your mortgage payment on a NOS "I" piece...
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Old Moparz

Quote from: Ponch ® on December 20, 2007, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 20, 2007, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: dukeboy_318 on December 20, 2007, 01:13:02 AM
  and people wonder why 14 year olds are pregnant, look who they are watching even on kids shows. Its a shame  :rotz: :rotz:

There were no promiscuous TV shows when I was a kid and we were just as horny as kids nowadays.

With all the media attention on this I haven't heard anybody mention that, in California,  the sire of Jamie Lynn's kid is guilty of statutory rape. (He 18, she 16)  Wonder if he'll be prosecuted.

exactly...people act as if there was no boinking until they started showing sex on tv.

Blaming TV or Paris Hilton for your daughter for being a slut is like blaming eBay for blowing your mortgage payment on a NOS "I" piece...


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TheGhost

Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 20, 2007, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: dukeboy_318 on December 20, 2007, 01:13:02 AM
  and people wonder why 14 year olds are pregnant, look who they are watching even on kids shows. Its a shame  :rotz: :rotz:

There were no promiscuous TV shows when I was a kid and we were just as horny as kids nowadays.

For once, I agree with John here.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

Mike DC


I always thought Britney was trailer-trash from the beginning. 

That doesn't skip generations.  And no amount of money will ever fix it.

 

JimShine

Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on December 19, 2007, 11:39:49 PM
14 thru 17 year old girls get pregnant every day. IT'S NOT A GOOD THING EITHER! But why do we need a topic on it :P 
:dancinglock: :dancinglock: :dancinglock: :dancinglock: :dancinglock: :dancinglock: :dancinglock: :dancinglock: :dancinglock: :dancinglock:


It may not be a good thing, but it isn't all bad. I am the product of a similar situation. Depending on your beliefs, I feel I would not have been here had my mother not got pregnant when she did (at 16).

Mike DC

 
Oh yeah, it's a lot more than just age.  Plenty of 38yo mothers still produce trailer-trash kids too. 


The whole Spears clan just rubs me the wrong way. 
The Simpson girls or Christina Aguelera could do all the same trashy songs/clothes/publicity/videos, and yet none of them ever irked me the way Britney did. 
 
   

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to top it all off...Nickelodeon is going to start a new show on sex and love....great I guess Nick is on the no-no list for my girls to watch.....
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hemihead

Isn't it  a little hypocritical to tell your teenagers not to do the same things you were doing at their age ? All the ads about not smoking , doing drugs, sex, drinking , etc. then ,  worst of all ,  doing them even now . Maybe when you are sitting and having those drinks this holiday season you should think about the example YOU set for your kids.
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Mike DC

I hear you. 

But the problem is huge. 
Many parents are setting the good examples with their own lives and STILL losing the war against the media/culture's influence on their kids. 

 

Ghoste

It's a complex issue.  As a guitar player (a very amateur one but being sensitive to my senstive side), I've always had a strong stance against censorship of any kind.  Then I had kids.  :o
It isn't so clear cut to me anymore.  I try hard to balance the things in life which I enjoy in moderation and have a right as an adult to do against the values that are important for me to teach my children.  I like beer and I don't think it's wrong for my daughters to know that.  I do however, very often explain that it is an adult drink and we are quick to point out the dangers of alcohol to our kids.  I sincerely doubt that my kids have ever witnessed my wife or I drunk although they know what drunkeness is.  Hypocritical?  Perhaps, but still not the same as ignoring my role as an example and staggering around my household on a daily or even a biannually basis. (or ever)  Am I a saint or perfect parent?  Absolutely not and no one is.  Of course parents will screw up in front of their children just as kids are going to discover the vices of life on their own. 
Now continuing with that, I expect a certain responsability from the media and world at alrge when it comes to the messages that are laid before my kids.  I don't subscribe to the Playboy channel because even though I enjoy women and sex, I don't want to expose a 10 and 7 year old to those questions just yet.  I do however, subscribe to the Family Channel which is a Canadian channel which combines programs from Disney and Nickolodeon.  My daughters both like Zoey 101 and we have purchased some of the Zoey 101 crap for them.  Now one of their idols is pregnant so how do I explain that to them?  I'm not so naive as to believe that either of my daughters will be ignorant about the opposite sex when they turn 16 but I sure as hell don't plan to encourage them to try everything about it either and don't worry about the consequences.
It's my responsability to teach them right from wrong but if the Spears family are going to ask for my hard earned dollars to entertain my kids and they do it under the guise of any kind of commonly accepted North American family value system, then they share some obligation too and so do her handlers and producers.
This could be the preachiest thing I've ever posted.  Sorry rant off now.

John_Kunkel

Quote from: Ghoste on December 22, 2007, 12:53:53 PM
 Now one of their idols is pregnant so how do I explain that to them? 

The same way you would explain a respected religious figure falling from grace. Instill in them your concept of right/wrong regardless of what others do and hope it takes.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

bull

Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 22, 2007, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 22, 2007, 12:53:53 PM
 Now one of their idols is pregnant so how do I explain that to them? 

The same way you would explain a respected religious figure falling from grace. Instill in them your concept of right/wrong regardless of what others do and hope it takes.

I agree and I think it's also wise to teach your kids to avoid hero worship. I think that's where a lot of people get into trouble because they become devistated and question their beliefs when a person they look up to messes up. I try to teach my kids to not mimic people but rather to stick to a set of values and try to learn from the mistakes of others, even the people they might idolize. People can be good role models but everyone screws up and it's important for kids to learn that it's not people but individualized patterns of good behavior we should try to emulate.

JimShine


TK73

Quote from: bull on December 22, 2007, 05:32:37 PM
I agree and I think it's also wise to teach your kids to avoid hero worship. I think that's where a lot of people get into trouble because they become devistated and question their beliefs when a person they look up to messes up.People can be good role models but everyone screws up and it's important for kids to learn that it's not people but individualized patterns of good behavior we should try to emulate.

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bull

Quote from: TK73 on December 22, 2007, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: bull on December 22, 2007, 05:32:37 PM
I agree and I think it's also wise to teach your kids to avoid hero worship. I think that's where a lot of people get into trouble because they become devistated and question their beliefs when a person they look up to messes up.People can be good role models but everyone screws up and it's important for kids to learn that it's not people but individualized patterns of good behavior we should try to emulate.

What're ya saying ??? ???      I worship you...   :'(










heh heh   :D

Really? I've been thinking about starting a cult to help fund the Charger restoration. Would you like to be the first member?

TK73

Do I have to shave my head and wear orange robes....................... again??
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Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

pettyfan43

Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 22, 2007, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 22, 2007, 12:53:53 PM
Now one of their idols is pregnant so how do I explain that to them?

The same way you would explain a respected religious figure falling from grace. Instill in them your concept of right/wrong regardless of what others do and hope it takes.


WOW now I am agreeing with John, WHAT THE H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS IS HAPPENING!?!?!?!??!?   ;) ;)

pettyfan43

Quote from: bull on December 22, 2007, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 22, 2007, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 22, 2007, 12:53:53 PM
Now one of their idols is pregnant so how do I explain that to them?

The same way you would explain a respected religious figure falling from grace. Instill in them your concept of right/wrong regardless of what others do and hope it takes.

I agree and I think it's also wise to teach your kids to avoid hero worship. I think that's where a lot of people get into trouble because they become devistated and question their beliefs when a person they look up to messes up. I try to teach my kids to not mimic people but rather to stick to a set of values and try to learn from the mistakes of others, even the people they might idolize. People can be good role models but everyone screws up and it's important for kids to learn that it's not people but individualized patterns of good behavior we should try to emulate.

Very well said, Kids have VERY FEW role models anymore, and it is VERY important for them to realize and understand that celebrities are JUST PEOPLE and are subject to make mistakes just like everyone else. It is VERY important for kids to understand that mistakes are part of being HUMAN.