440 Ignition

[Belgium R/T -68]

Since my enginecombo now is decided for my 440, eddy heads, performer RPM inlet, engle cam and TTi headers
the time has come to thoose ignitionsystem. I don't intend to race and have good experience from MP electronic
ignition system but it seems almost everybody use MSD, one box bigger then the other. What are the advantages
of these systems and doesn't MP meet todays development of heads, intakes,cams and others?
Simply, should I also join the redbox club? 

// Per

[1BAD68]

I dont see the point of spending hundreds of dollars on MSD or Mopar electronics, been there done that.
I installed a Pertronix last summer and love it, it cost me about 70 bucks but is reliable, easy to install and runs as good as the fancy setups I've used in the past.

[histoy]

I agree with 1Bad68.   I've put the Pertronix units on my '64 Vette and '68 Charger.

[sixty8charger]

got the petronix distributor on mine 68, no problems. Handles everything i throw at it. 

[rav440]

you went that far with good parts , why cheap out now ? 

[Belgium R/T -68]

you went that far with good parts , why cheap out now ? 

Have no problem to pay if it's worth the money, what's your suggestion
and why? 

[rav440]

you went that far with good parts , why cheap out now ? 

Have no problem to pay if it's worth the money, what's your suggestion
and why? 

the way i see it is you spent the $$ to make it run why not finnish the job  . in a sence the same as what im doin to my 440 . im no engine builder but the way i see it is you have to ignite the fuel so why use half the spark when you can zap the hell out of the fuel .
im going with MSD regaurdless of what anyone says , billet distributor , SS coil for now , 8.5 mm wires and either a 7 AL 2 or a DIGITAL 6 .

[Belgium R/T -68]

you went that far with good parts , why cheap out now ? 

Have no problem to pay if it's worth the money, what's your suggestion
and why? 

the way i see it is you spent the $$ to make it run why not finnish the job  . in a sence the same as what im doin to my 440 . im no engine builder but the way i see it is you have to ignite the fuel so why use half the spark when you can zap the hell out of the fuel .
im going with MSD regaurdless of what anyone says , billet distributor , SS coil for now , 8.5 mm wires and either a 7 AL 2 or a DIGITAL 6 .

I am sure it's great stuff but how will I feel the difference in my Charger? 

[rav440]

you went that far with good parts , why cheap out now ? 

Have no problem to pay if it's worth the money, what's your suggestion
and why? 

the way i see it is you spent the $$ to make it run why not finnish the job  . in a sence the same as what im doin to my 440 . im no engine builder but the way i see it is you have to ignite the fuel so why use half the spark when you can zap the hell out of the fuel .
im going with MSD regaurdless of what anyone says , billet distributor , SS coil for now , 8.5 mm wires and either a 7 AL 2 or a DIGITAL 6 .

I am sure it's great stuff but how will I feel the difference in my Charger? 

um ? HORSE POWER & TORQUE 

like i said im no engine builder but the guy doing some work for me is a BIG TIME , BIG HORSE POWER engine builder he explained all this stuff to me but i really cant relay  it to you and make it sound like i know what im talkig about  its in my head i just cant get it to go thru the key board to you 
basicly what are you looking to do ?
drag race ?
tire frier ?
bad ass street machine ?
or just a factory stock horse power ride ?

[440fan]

Been there, done that. It will not do much more then the Pertronixs so why spend the dough. I have used the Pertronixs on other otherwise stock muscle cars and it helps but spending $$$ on the other items that you mentioned is a waste. If your car is set up right and tuned it will have plenty of performance.

[Belgium R/T -68]

Been there, done that. It will not do much more then the Pertronixs so why spend the dough. I have used the Pertronixs on other otherwise stock muscle cars and it helps but spending $$$ on the other items that you mentioned is a waste. If your car is set up right and tuned it will have plenty of performance.

Can you tell me a little bit about this Petronix, sounds popular. 

[1BAD68]

http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx

Its basically a points eliminator, it fits under your stock dist. cap. Just set it and forget it.
For street application it works awesome and you really wouldnt notice a difference between Pertronix or MSD unless your at the track ie. timeslips

[firefighter3931]

The MSD is a worthwhile upgrade in my opinion. When running a bigger cam and all the other performance stuff it helps to have a strong ignition system. The engine will run cleaner and it won't foul plugs or load up. 


Ron

[440fan]

http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx

Its basically a points eliminator, it fits under your stock dist. cap. Just set it and forget it.
For street application it works awesome and you really wouldnt notice a difference between Pertronix or MSD unless your at the track ie. timeslips

I agree. If your running mostly stock and just want the reliabilty of a electronic ignition go with the pertronixs. You can forget about adjusting points and worn out cams and get better starts and performance. If you have a lot of performance mods and race I would do the MSD but otherwise it is a waste. It is also easy to go back to points if you sell and want it to be original.

[Belgium R/T -68]

The MSD is a worthwhile upgrade in my opinion. When running a bigger cam and all the other performance stuff it helps to have a strong ignition system. The engine will run cleaner and it won't foul plugs or load up. 


Ron

Ron, since you helped me so good with the camshaft selection I would like
a suggestion of suitable components. 

// Per

[Mefirst]

Per***

In my op. the MSD 6A ignition box is more than enough for your combo, then again if you like electric gadgets, you could buy the 6AL that comes with a rew limiter... and get a Blaster II coil to go along with it...

The Mopar distributor will work nicely, no need to buy a MSD distributor...

Buy a set of 8mm MSD Heli-Core sparkplug wires.. and for al thats Holy and Sacred, please don't buy the crappy yellow Accel sparkplug wires...

Then again the Mopar Orange ignition box setup would probably work just as well.. Its al about taste and how much your willing to spend...

/Tom

[d72hemi]

What about the pertronix second strike box vs. the MSD?

[Belgium R/T -68]

Per***

In my op. the MSD 6A ignition box is more than enough for your combo, then again if you like electric gadgets, you could buy the 6AL that comes with a rew limiter... and get a Blaster II coil to go along with it...

The Mopar distributor will work nicely, no need to buy a MSD distributor...

Buy a set of 8mm MSD Heli-Core sparkplug wires.. and for al thats Holy and Sacred, please don't buy the crappy yellow Accel sparkplug wires...

Then again the Mopar Orange ignition box setup would probably work just as well.. Its al about taste and how much your willing to spend...

/Tom

Hi Tom, nice to hear you again. Have a kit of MP electronic and a extra chrome box.
Might be a good start then. 

// Per

[Mefirst]

Hi Tom, nice to hear you again. Have a kit of MP electronic and a extra chrome box.
Might be a good start then.

// Per

Per

If you already have the MP electronic kit, then use it ... You can always upgrade later...

/Tom

[Mefirst]

What about the pertronix second strike box vs. the MSD?

I have not used any of the Petronix products, but I checked out the info on the Strike ign. box.. Seems like a cool ignition box, cause you can dial in a second spark. Then again Im not convinced that the Petronix ign. box would generate more power If your engine is rewing at +7000RPM the benefit of a second spark may not be of any real use.. Personally I would buy an ignition box that gives out one single, really high voltage spark, like a MSD Digital 7 or the older MSD 7AL

Other than the second spark feature, the Petronix ign. box seems to be more or less the same, as the MSD Digital 6 ign. box. On the other hand the MSD Digital 6 has the double timing retard feature.. One is a start retard function and the second retard can be used with Nitrous...

Which one of the brands are better then the other, well thats more of an theoretical question...

My

/Tom