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Duplicating 71 charger colored bumpers

Started by 71butterbee, December 14, 2007, 11:10:15 AM

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71butterbee

Does anyone know if there is a product out there to dupicate what was sprayed on the original colored bumpers? I'm thinking of adding that option to my Bee.
Thanks

400/6/PAC

I'm not sure about a product to duplicate the color.
They used special bumpers , They were not simply coated.
I dont know a lot about the bumpers They used but there was a only a few colors, The dark green matalic ( gf7 ) is the rarest as it was cancled in November of 71.
This option was rare and most commonly seen on chargers but was available on both plymouth models.
Good luck

71butterbee

Quote from: 400/6/PAC on December 16, 2007, 06:47:11 AM
I'm not sure about a product to duplicate the color.
They used special bumpers , They were not simply coated.
I dont know a lot about the bumpers They used but there was a only a few colors, The dark green matalic ( gf7 ) is the rarest as it was cancled in November of 71.
This option was rare and most commonly seen on chargers but was available on both plymouth models.
Good luck
I had a 71 Charger years ago with this options and I looked at a project a couple years back with the same bumpers and im quite sure they are just regular bumpers sprayed with a thin layer of black coating and I believe its a urathane coating of some sort. I had a Challenger with colored bumpers too and it was a completely different construction then the 71 Charger.

plum500

"Elastomeric Colored Front Bumper Package"

That's what the coating was called, but I honestly have no idea what that actually is. :)

I just scuffed my old chrome one, primed and painted.

71butterbee

Quote from: plum500 on December 17, 2007, 01:11:41 PM
"Elastomeric Colored Front Bumper Package"

That's what the coating was called, but I honestly have no idea what that actually is. :)

I just scuffed my old chrome one, primed and painted.
How is the paint holding up? I was thinking of doing it that way too but i was worried about cracking and chipping. I was also thinking of shooting with a flex additive like it was a modern day urathane bumper. Just not sure which is the best way to go.

I know there is a guy in Canada that does replicate the bumpers but the price is high and so is the shipping and I figure if he can do it so can I. The coating they used must still be around or at least something like it.

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plum500

Quote from: 71butterbee on December 17, 2007, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: plum500 on December 17, 2007, 01:11:41 PM
"Elastomeric Colored Front Bumper Package"

That's what the coating was called, but I honestly have no idea what that actually is. :)

I just scuffed my old chrome one, primed and painted.
How is the paint holding up? I was thinking of doing it that way too but i was worried about cracking and chipping. I was also thinking of shooting with a flex additive like it was a modern day urathane bumper. Just not sure which is the best way to go.

I know there is a guy in Canada that does replicate the bumpers but the price is high and so is the shipping and I figure if he can do it so can I. The coating they used must still be around or at least something like it.

I haven't actually got it on the car yet - but it I can tell you it seems as tough as nails and stuck on there really really well. Can't quite remember what I did - but I believe it was 80 grit, and may have used one of those 3m strippers on a drill to get in the corners and contours. Basically until the old chrome was dull - I think I may have given it the once over by hand with some 120 after that too.  Primed and painted. (I think) I used an etch primer first, then a scratch fill/build, and thin coats of paint. Though I don't know whether that the etch would have any effect on even scuffed up chrome or not - but either way, the paint is definitely one with the bumper.

71butterbee

Quote from: plum500 on December 18, 2007, 08:19:03 AM
Quote from: 71butterbee on December 17, 2007, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: plum500 on December 17, 2007, 01:11:41 PM
"Elastomeric Colored Front Bumper Package"

That's what the coating was called, but I honestly have no idea what that actually is. :)

I just scuffed my old chrome one, primed and painted.
How is the paint holding up? I was thinking of doing it that way too but i was worried about cracking and chipping. I was also thinking of shooting with a flex additive like it was a modern day urathane bumper. Just not sure which is the best way to go.

I know there is a guy in Canada that does replicate the bumpers but the price is high and so is the shipping and I figure if he can do it so can I. The coating they used must still be around or at least something like it.

I haven't actually got it on the car yet - but it I can tell you it seems as tough as nails and stuck on there really really well. Can't quite remember what I did - but I believe it was 80 grit, and may have used one of those 3m strippers on a drill to get in the corners and contours. Basically until the old chrome was dull - I think I may have given it the once over by hand with some 120 after that too.  Primed and painted. (I think) I used an etch primer first, then a scratch fill/build, and thin coats of paint. Though I don't know whether that the etch would have any effect on even scuffed up chrome or not - but either way, the paint is definitely one with the bumper.

Thanks Plum500. My bumpers are being stripped of chrome and I should be able to pick them up soon. My louverd tail lights will be arriving this week too so I have everything I need to do a tribute to the colored bumper option on my car but my car wont be ready for paint for sometime. Anyway how ever I decied to do my bumpers I would still really be interested in knowing what they shot the original bumpers with.

plum500

Cool.

Here's what it looks like now -- still not done with it really, but it's getting there...



(it's not plum, but no doubt it's purple :)


71butterbee

Quote from: plum500 on December 18, 2007, 03:43:56 PM
Cool.

Here's what it looks like now -- still not done with it really, but it's getting there...



(it's not plum, but no doubt it's purple :)


It looks great! :2thumbs:

plum500

Now I'll tell you it was done with a brush  :icon_smile_big:

41husk

I sand blasted the chrome bumpers on the 73 wanna bee super bee clone and painted them body color, sublime, about a year ago and they are holding up great and I love the look!
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greasyspider

Were the bolt heads exposed on the colored bumpers? I'm am going to duplicate this option as well.  I'm scoured the net for some pics, and the ones I've seen don't appear to have any bolts showing.  Not sure if they just weld the holes closed for a cleaner look, or if they were like that from the factory.
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71_Charger_R/T

Quote from: greasyspider on November 18, 2010, 06:57:13 AM
Were the bolt heads exposed on the colored bumpers? I'm am going to duplicate this option as well.  I'm scoured the net for some pics, and the ones I've seen don't appear to have any bolts showing.  Not sure if they just weld the holes closed for a cleaner look, or if they were like that from the factory.



The carriage bolts were indeed exposed, but in body color as well. Here are some pics of an original in somewhat tough shape.




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1972Rallye

Quote from: 71_Charger_R/T on November 18, 2010, 10:56:58 AM
Quote from: greasyspider on November 18, 2010, 06:57:13 AM
Were the bolt heads exposed on the colored bumpers? I'm am going to duplicate this option as well.  I'm scoured the net for some pics, and the ones I've seen don't appear to have any bolts showing.  Not sure if they just weld the holes closed for a cleaner look, or if they were like that from the factory.



The carriage bolts were indeed exposed, but in body color as well. Here are some pics of an original in somewhat tough shape.


Any pics of the rear bumper?

Regarding the elastomeric coating... Jimmy Boros had a couple coated bumpers a few years ago.  He had them coated in Canada because the environmental restrictions in the US made it too expensive to do here.  The coating on the bumpers is strictly for paint durability.  If you're not looking to maintain originality, modern impact resistant paint additives will work fine for most applications.


71_Charger_R/T


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Any pics of the rear bumper?


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I thought I had some but can't find them.... If I can find them I'll post them.

Iron Chef

Quote from: plum500 on December 17, 2007, 01:11:41 PM
"Elastomeric Colored Front Bumper Package"

That's what the coating was called, but I honestly have no idea what that actually is. :)

According to one Mopar history book on the Charger/Roadrunner that I read, the elastomeric coating was actually taking a standard steel bumper (unchromed), spraying it with a urethane coating, then painting it body color.
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