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tis the season for disc brakes...how much does it cost

Started by MikeMacCham, December 09, 2007, 12:08:59 AM

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MikeMacCham

So I think I am at the point where the car is fast....slowing down on the other hand takes time. How much is a Kit for a 68 Charger? and where is the best place to get one? Can I get parts from pic your part or do I need to make a order? :naughty:
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RD

the cheapest route would be to find a 75 or up c or b body that has the sliding calipers at a junkyard.  purchase the caliper brackets and the spindles.  both will bolt directly onto your car.  now you can go to any aftermarket autoparts store and purchase new bearings (A2 and A17), rotors (5306 if 10", 5307 if 11"), new ball joints, and new brake hoses.  All which are ready available at any autozone, oreilly's, napa, or advance autoparts.  [these part numbers are autozone part numbers, but any reputable autoparts store should be able to look up your application or cross reference those numbers].  good luck.
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bull

There are a few aftermarket kits out there now that can compete with the A-body setup price-wise and those spindles and caliper brackets are getting hard to find. I would look on Ebay to get some ideas on aftermarket kits first before you start beating the brush for Dart spindles. Although oftentimes you can find the A-body kits on Ebay now too.

MikeMacCham

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bull


MikeMacCham

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bull

Quote from: MikeMacCham on December 10, 2007, 02:03:45 AM
NO F'ING WAY!? Its THAT cheap!? :puke:

The price seems high when you're buying them but damn cheap when you're going down a steep hill with a sharp corner at the bottom of it.

MikeMacCham

HA Yeah I agree! I just thought it would cost more. Do you think it would be worth it to do all 4 disk or just 2?
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Silver R/T

daily driver Charger will be fine with just the front 12" disc brakes from willwood. Now if you want to take it out to drag races/road course id swap to 13" and get rear disc brakes also.
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blue69

Rear disc are a noticable difference. Unless you want the original look they are a worthwhile upgrade. I did the rear for around $300 with the scarebird brackets from eBay.

miller

Quote from: Silver R/T on December 20, 2007, 11:47:13 PM
daily driver Charger will be fine with just the front 12" disc brakes from willwood. Now if you want to take it out to drag races/road course id swap to 13" and get rear disc brakes also.

i just browsed prices and the willwood range from 600 to 900 and the ssbc range from 1000-1200, when i read into the specs, willwood made larger diameter rotors that were the same width, both are cross drilled and both have 4 pistons, so why are the ssbc more expensive... are they actually better or is it just for the name?

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Silver R/T

Id go with wilwood myself, Ive priced it out a long time ago and it seems to me that you get more bang for the buck with the wilwood kit ie you get bigger rotors for the price than if you were to buy from willwood rather than SSBC. Get their Dynalite calipers man they're worth it. your handling will improve with lighter calipers
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MikeMacCham

Awsome, so where do i get them? and sorry how much is it for just front disks?
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firefighter3931

Mike, i went with the SS brakes setup because it bolts on directly to the stock drum brake spindles....no front end disasembly required when going from drum to disc brakes.  :2thumbs:

The willwood stuff is lightweight "race" parts from what i've seen and the rotors can warp under street use/abuse.  :Twocents:


Ron
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bull

Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 23, 2007, 08:15:45 AM
Mike, i went with the SS brakes setup because it bolts on directly to the stock drum brake spindles....no front end disassembly required when going from drum to disc brakes.  :2thumbs:

The willwood stuff is lightweight "race" parts from what I've seen and the rotors can warp under street use/abuse.  :Twocents:


Ron

:iagree: Wilwood goes out of its way in its literature to explain that it is a race application brake system. In other words they are confident your car will stop with one hard application every hour or so (or however long it takes you to get back to the finish line).

Silver R/T

Wilwood sells 2 different applications. One is race kit and other one is street kit. Do not be confused now.
Best thing is to talk to this guy, he's great guy and will spend time walking you through, finding out what you want. He'll sell you the right stuff.
http://stores.ebay.com/The-Hotrod-Store
http://www.hotrodsusa.com/store/dpsrear_pbrake.html
btw if wilwood was so bad why are they still in the business and most cars out there with aftermarket brake systems run wilwood, hmm...

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1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Rolling_Thunder

I've warped wilwood rotors..    not fun...      i do dig their E-brake though    :2thumbs:
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Silver R/T

Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on December 25, 2007, 12:47:06 AM
I've warped wilwood rotors.. not fun... i do dig their E-brake though :2thumbs:
did you get their blank rotors or slotted/drilled rotors and was it 2 piece design?
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My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

69bronzeT5

Wow, I thought they would cost more than that! :o I plan on getting a front disc brake kit for my '69..now installing them by myself..that will be a problem  :smilielol:
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1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
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1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
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bull

Quote from: Silver R/T on December 24, 2007, 03:57:29 PM
btw if wilwood was so bad why are they still in the business and most cars out there with aftermarket brake systems run wilwood, hmm...

Maybe you should ask the guys at hlpag how a bad company stays in business so long. And I don't recall anyone saying Wilwood is bad, do you? Just because everyone doesn't jump right up and agree with everything you say doesn't mean they think your choices are foolish.

suntech

I have not seen the difference between street and race application from Wilwood, but i would assume that race brakes are bigger, better ventilation, and less prone to fading and warping.
There is a lot more to racing, than braking down from a 1/4 mile run now and then.
The kit XV has, is made by StopTech i think. That is a nice kit.
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dkn1997

Quote from: blue69 on December 21, 2007, 11:46:28 AM
Rear disc are a noticable difference. Unless you want the original look they are a worthwhile upgrade. I did the rear for around $300 with the scarebird brackets from eBay.

could you elaborate on the scarebird kit?  I hear so much bad, but often from people who "heard it from a guy"  I am curios about your experience.  Some details and pics of your install would be great.  thanks.
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MikeMacCham

Ok so what are the cost differences with the SS vs Wilwood and Race Vs Street? :stirthepot:
and do hey all fit right on? Are those the main 2 everyone is saying to buy?

Thanks guys, this site rocks
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69bronzeT5

I have sort of a stupid question. What would be better to get? Front disc brakes or rear disc brakes? :shruggy:. I want my car to stop better
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Silver R/T

most the the kits out there will bolt to your stock spindles, now you will most likely have to swap master cylinders, especially when going from drum to discs. They also carry their master cylinders and master cylinder firewall adapters.
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1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722