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Started by 4forty, December 07, 2007, 03:21:23 PM

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4forty

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dpm68


moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

PocketThunder

"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

Hemidog

best looking 'vette i've seen in a long time!  :icon_smile_big:

Charger74

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hah: :hah:  That is pretty dang funny.  Sad to do that to a vette, of that year, but still funny as hell.

Charger_Fan

He should attend the next Bloomington show...just imagine how many heart attack induced ambulance rides there will be that weekend! :smilielol:

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

mally69

at least its a GM   and not a mopar

400/6/PAC

That much time and money, and thats what he came up with??? :ahum:

TUFCAT

Time is money....and he just wasted both!  :icon_smile_dissapprove:

Troy

But it's obviously not a monumental waste of time to rip it apart on a web forum... :eyes:

Why is it that no one seems to appreciate another's hard work? It's a car. It's unique. It's an expression of the owner. Deal with it. I can just imagine what that guy thinks of anyone who is silly enough to restore a car back to factory stock condition.

Any of you car aficionados know the inspiration for this one? It should be obvious...

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

mally69

There is one thing that you actually can say about it,   that is  it is STILL a corvette even though its paint and whatever else is of bad taste to most people :popcrn: :popcrn:

TruckDriver

 :o :rotz: :puke: :eek2:


Must be some wild drugs :-\
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

pettyfan43

Quote from: Troy on December 07, 2007, 07:09:47 PM
But it's obviously not a monumental waste of time to rip it apart on a web forum... :eyes:

Why is it that no one seems to appreciate another's hard work? It's a car. It's unique. It's an expression of the owner. Deal with it. I can just imagine what that guy thinks of anyone who is silly enough to restore a car back to factory stock condition.

Any of you car aficionados know the inspiration for this one? It should be obvious...

Troy


The inspiration? A bad drug trip?   :lol:  Looks like he was TRYING to get a "Corvette Grand Sport" look out of it. Didn't work!

Brock Samson

first thing i thought of was a tennis shoe...  :shruggy: and it looks pretty well done,..  :2thumbs:

dkn1997

It may be butt ugly, but at least it's slow.
RECHRGED

TUFCAT

Quote from: Troy on December 07, 2007, 07:09:47 PM



Any of you car aficionados know the inspiration for this one? It should be obvious...

Troy


The Corvette Grand Sport theme just doesn't work well with the circa 1950's wide whitewalls added to it.   :Twocents: :Twocents:  Now that's an opinion.

Brock Samson


BigBlackDodge

Quote from: Troy on December 07, 2007, 07:09:47 PM
But it's obviously not a monumental waste of time to rip it apart on a web forum... :eyes:

Why is it that no one seems to appreciate another's hard work? It's a car. It's unique. It's an expression of the owner. Deal with it. I can just imagine what that guy thinks of anyone who is silly enough to restore a car back to factory stock condition.

Any of you car aficionados know the inspiration for this one? It should be obvious...

Troy





Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............so it's your car then! :nana:


BBD

twenty mike mike

It's no worse looking than any other Vette of that vintage.   :hah:

I sure wish I'd bought that '67 Sting Ray roadster when I had the chance,   :brickwall:  but I've never liked that model.

dukeboy_318

at least it wasnt a 69 charger or something, although id never wish that on any car  :eek2:
1978 Dodge Power Wagon W200 4x4- 408 stroker/4spd
1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. 440 project in the works.

Steve P.

Maybe the guy is an exec. from the movie CARS... I thought maybe it was a photo chop.  :scratchchin:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

moparstuart

Quote from: Troy on December 07, 2007, 07:09:47 PM
But it's obviously not a monumental waste of time to rip it apart on a web forum... :eyes:

Why is it that no one seems to appreciate another's hard work? It's a car. It's unique. It's an expression of the owner. Deal with it. I can just imagine what that guy thinks of anyone who is silly enough to restore a car back to factory stock condition.

Any of you car aficionados know the inspiration for this one? It should be obvious...

Troy

no matter what you  say to defend that one it's still ugly  :Twocents:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Troy

Quote from: pettyfan43 on December 07, 2007, 07:48:01 PM
Quote from: Troy on December 07, 2007, 07:09:47 PM
But it's obviously not a monumental waste of time to rip it apart on a web forum... :eyes:

Why is it that no one seems to appreciate another's hard work? It's a car. It's unique. It's an expression of the owner. Deal with it. I can just imagine what that guy thinks of anyone who is silly enough to restore a car back to factory stock condition.

Any of you car aficionados know the inspiration for this one? It should be obvious...

Troy


The inspiration? A bad drug trip?   :lol:  Looks like he was TRYING to get a "Corvette Grand Sport" look out of it. Didn't work!

Quote from: moparstuart on December 08, 2007, 12:30:15 AM
Quote from: Troy on December 07, 2007, 07:09:47 PM
But it's obviously not a monumental waste of time to rip it apart on a web forum... :eyes:

Why is it that no one seems to appreciate another's hard work? It's a car. It's unique. It's an expression of the owner. Deal with it. I can just imagine what that guy thinks of anyone who is silly enough to restore a car back to factory stock condition.

Any of you car aficionados know the inspiration for this one? It should be obvious...

Troy

no matter what you  say to defend that one it's still ugly  :Twocents:
My point isn't to defend it (I don't really care for it myself), it's about attitudes in general. This is the very reason I stopped going to car shows last year and also why I don't belong to any local car clubs. People are too quick to blast anything that doesn't fit within their tiny realm what they would do. I'm tired of people criticizing me (and others) for how I've done my car when I never asked for their opinion in the first place. There are lots of cars I don't like but I certainly don't waste my time searching them out to share with my friends. Don't you guys wonder why new members don't stick around? Or possibly why some long time members leave? It does bother me whether anyone else cares or not. Fortunately for me, my opinion carries a lot of weight. :D

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

TUFCAT

Troy, no offense...and I'm not trying to stir the pot or ruffle feathers - but, it could be very possible that the car is only wearing vinyl graphics....for a joke or just to be outrageous for the moment. Regarding our criticisms, my gut feel is that if this car showed up at Corvette's at Carlisle, or any other Corvette show for that matter, those people would share the same opinion of it. Corvette people are funny like that - - - even willing to bet they are far worse than us Mopar people. Secondly, under all those graphics, there's a very nice looking 1978 Vette Grand Sport tribute that has some good body work and mild customization.  The owner is stretching the envelope of his Grand Sport theme, and for the record, if this was posted on a Corvette board, the responses would probably be very similar as our Mopar guys. Come on, at some point, the owner knows this is an outrageous Corvette, and its a love it or leave it appearance. I respect your feelings as the board leader that , "if you can't say anything good, don't say anything at all" ....but you have to admit, when you go to the outrageous level, like fashion, or a hair style...you have to expect some criticism.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: TUFCAT on December 08, 2007, 10:34:02 AM
Troy, no offense...and I'm not trying to stir the pot or ruffle feathers - but, it could be very possible that the car is only wearing vinyl graphics....for a joke or just to be outrageous for the moment. Regarding our criticisms, my gut feel is that if this car showed up at Corvette's at Carlisle, or any other Corvette show for that matter, those people would share the same opinion of it. Corvette people are funny like that - - - even willing to bet they are far worse than us Mopar people. Secondly, under all if those graphics, there's a very nice looking 1975 Vette Grand Sport tribute that has some good body work and mild customization.  The owner is stretching the envelope of his Grand Sport theme, and for the record, if this was posted on a Corvette board, the responses would probably be very similar as our Mopar guys. Come on, at some point, the owner knows this is an outrageous Corvette, and its a love it or leave it appearance. I respect your feelings as the board leader that , "if you can't say anything good, don't say anything at all" ....but you have to admit, when you go to the outrageous level, kind of like fashion, or hair style...you have to expect some criticism.

I think the point is being missed here . the thing about these threads is, if you hate it and cant find anything good about it why make a pinata thread about it? Ya gotta know that its just going to get bashed and make waves with other members etc. I understand completely that winter is starting to set in, shows are pretty much over for the year ,and everone needs to "shift into glide" so to speak but, lets not beat up on others to make ourselves feel better  :Twocents:
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Troy

Who cares if Corvette owners wouldn't like it? Would they say something to the owner of this car in person? Not likely. I chose this thread to state my opinion precisely because it is outrageous. Where should the line be drawn? Suppose it were a member's car (as has happened so many times in the past)? What do you think the owner's reaction would be? I know of at least five who have left the site because of pile-ons like this (usually stoked by members without a car and/or talent to do it themselves). That is unacceptable to me. Many of those cars were much less absurd than this one (and even this one appears to be easy to return to stock). There are a few still here who manage to put up with the asinine comments and I applaud them for it because they have a million times more character than the "haters".

Some people don't like General Lees, some don't like wheels larger than 15", some think stock wheels make a car look like an elephant on stilts, some don't like when the paint color is changed, some don't like custom interiors, and some can't imagine paying $4,000+ for a piece of NOS plastic. Those are all fine and valid opinions but it's really the owner's decision to do what makes them happy. I personally cringe when I see a roll cage and tubs in nearly any car - rare or not - and I doubt the sanity of anyone hunting down a set of NOS redline tires. However, I appreciate the effort and I'm glad someone has the guts/time/energy to do it other than me. If we all thought exactly the same then this would be an incredibly boring hobby. Constructive criticism is generally welcomed and encouraged by all but insults only serve to alienate and offend (not just the owners either!). I cannot imagine any scenario that makes it "ok" to insult another - even if they ask for opinions!

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

bull

While I agree with you guys (Troy and Brian) that people here should not be running amuck with negative comments, I also feel there is a responsibility on the part of those toward which some comments are directed to take such things with a grain of salt. Maybe this isn't the time or place to confront this but people cannot be completely insulated from negativity, especially when they ask "what do you think" of this or that. There has to be a balance and people need to understand that not everyone is going to agree with what they think is cool, pretty, attractive, etc. I don't think this should give people license to pile on or get personal and nasty but if we are not allowed to express our honest opinions I think there's no point in having a "discussion" forum. Why have a discussion forum if you can't have a discussion? Discussions sometimes include dissention and that paradox reflects real life. Is it wrong that this forum sometimes reflects real life?

That said, it's much easier for people to be negative in this format than it is to be positive. When I used to write movie reviews I found it much more difficult to write reviews on movies I liked because it's harder to explain why you like something than it is to explain why you dislike something. That notion was backed up by my editor who said the same thing regarding his editorials. Sadly I think there is something innate in us that would rather tear something apart than build it up and I think that's one reason why threads with negativity here go on for three pages and the positive or neutral ones are lucky to get one or two responses before falling into obscurity.

I think a better way to go, rather than trying to focus on only writing positive things, is to be honest while obeying the golden rule. Voice your opinions but think about how it sounds if it were being said to you before you click the "post" button. During the past few months I've been trying hard to do this more and hopefully my efforts have not gone unnoticed. I've been involved in some very biting "discussions" in the past (one of which took place fairly recently with a vendor, mostly in the PM section) but I've toned it down greatly. My thing is I don't like arrogant know-it-alls or people who lie and deceive and if I see that here I tend to open fire. Ask Cody about that when he fibbed about his website early on. At any rate, I'm not perfect and no one is but we all have room for improvement so why not try to improve?

TUFCAT

Well, I guess I got myself caught up in this frey, so I can't help myself to say (just like Bull) I wasn't always a model citizen either.....having said that:

:iagree: with everything you said Bull :patriot: especially: "I think a better way to go, rather than trying to focus on only writing positive things, is to be honest while obeying the golden rule".    I understood Troy's comments,  and the reasons for them (the negative pile-ons).  Somewhere in-between, there needs to be a happy medium. We all have our own individuality which makes each of our viewpoints unique...and we should respect that :angel: .  This place should be a forum where well-placed, well-thought, provocative comments can still be made - without being offensive or derogatory. 

In the end, we should remember that nobody wants this place to end up being sanitized like Moparts....but at the same time, Troy cannot allow it to become a free-for-all like the Howard Stern Show.  :2thumbs:   

mikesbbody

I personally dont think any of the comments were THAT bad, 4 forty didnt even ask "what do you think"but pretty obvious that people are gonna post their opinions (and why shouldnt they?) i agree with what TC, bull, and troy say first of all we shouldnt candy coat our opinions but also who are we to say if something sucks or not? I dont really like it myself and ive probably in the past been guilty with some of my comments.
These day's i will say something like ïts not what i would do but...maybe i have given in to the "dreaded" PC? if we all liked the same things the hobby would be boring no doubt.  :Twocents:

69bronzeT5

Quote from: BigBlackDodge on December 07, 2007, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: Troy on December 07, 2007, 07:09:47 PM
But it's obviously not a monumental waste of time to rip it apart on a web forum... :eyes:

Why is it that no one seems to appreciate another's hard work? It's a car. It's unique. It's an expression of the owner. Deal with it. I can just imagine what that guy thinks of anyone who is silly enough to restore a car back to factory stock condition.

Any of you car aficionados know the inspiration for this one? It should be obvious...

Troy





Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............so it's your car then! :nana:


BBD



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69charger2002

WOW that is different.. good for that guy for having the balls to be different.. don't get me wrong, i would not like to fling open my garage door every morning and have that car stare back at me, but if it makes him happy, then it's all good..  :cheers:
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moparstuart


i'm opioniated yes, and ugly is ugly just my opinion  :Twocents: :Twocents: not gonna sugar coat it  sorry if your offended but hey thats me .
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE