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WIW WWII Nazi Helmet

Started by RT DAVE, November 25, 2007, 06:12:20 AM

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RT DAVE

Anybody have a ballpark estimate at the value of this thing is?  This was my deceased grandfather's possesion that he received either during or shortly after the war from a friend in the "old country".  I have somebody who wants it badly, but I'm having a hard time parting with it due to the fact that my grandfather kept it for so long.  In fact, he never got rid of it while he was alive.  Anyhow, just wondering if anybody knew about these things.  It says "Greetings from France" on the front and "Les Doro"  ("the grave)  on the side opposite the swastika.  I'm not a neo-nazi or anything...    ;)
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VPFD13

Right around 500.00 if you were more sure of the history you could get more. History buffs will give up more cash if you have some good back ground for it.
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mally69

WOW 500 bucks  my grandpa has one also, i didnt know they were worth that much 

daytonalo

Why would you ever sell that piece of history ? Your Grandfather will roll over in grave !

BMOTOXSTAR

I want one of those to make into a Red Baron Helmet , with a spike in the middle, for when I ride my street bike. :D
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That thing is cool! I wouldn't sell it!

rav440

Quote from: VPFD13 on November 25, 2007, 09:39:47 AM
Right around 500.00 if you were more sure of the history you could get more. History buffs will give up more cash if you have some good back ground for it.

id say it would be way way under $500 more like $50 - $150 range . that has a hand painted swastika " sp " the ones that go for big bucks are SS helmets .

here is a completed search on EBAY youll see what i mean .

good luck  :cheers:
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VPFD13

Quote from: daytonalo on November 25, 2007, 09:58:13 AM
Why would you ever sell that piece of history ? Your Grandfather will roll over in grave !

  I agree but thats just my  :Twocents:
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VPFD13

There is a re enactment group out by me and they set up a little sale and the vets bring out there old stuff, I seen a similar Helmet sold by the guy that brought it home with him sell for almost 700.00. I don't collect German stuff but I have a lot of WWII from the US and her Allies including helmets, uniforms, gear, and guns. In my opinion if you really want to sell it find a re enactment group near you ( believe me they are everywhere) and take it to a show it will sell for top dollar there.
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rav440

Quote from: daytonalo on November 25, 2007, 09:58:13 AM
Why would you ever sell that piece of history ? Your Grandfather will roll over in grave !

why keep it ? its not like his grandfather had a dierect link to it , as in killing the german the had it . it was given to him by his friend , so that link passed with the grandfather . maybe his grandfather want him to sell it and put the $ into the car .

i dont belive in keeping things around that someone else had . maybe one thing that was was heal dear to them , like a watch or a locket ect . you cant keep everything from someone how has passed .

what do you guys think will happen to our cars when we go ? our wives are going to sell them before the first shovel full of dirt hits the cassket .



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rav440

Quote from: VPFD13 on November 25, 2007, 10:36:48 AM
There is a re enactment group out by me and they set up a little sale and the vets bring out there old stuff, I seen a similar Helmet sold by the guy that brought it home with him sell for almost 700.00. I don't collect German stuff but I have a lot of WWII from the US and her Allies including helmets, uniforms, gear, and guns. In my opinion if you really want to sell it find a re enactment group near you ( believe me they are everywhere) and take it to a show it will sell for top dollar there.

that helmet isnt worth anywhere near that $ range , like i said its worth between $50.00 and $125.00 no more thats just a typical german WWII helmet its not SS or paratrooper ect
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Todd Wilson

Thats a great piece of history.   I have my grandpa's WWII US Army helmet. Wouldnt even think about selling it.


Todd


RECHRGD

As said before, that's a great piece of history.  It meant enough to your Grandfather for him to keep it all his life and have it passed down to his family upon his passing.  It would be disrespectful to sell it just to put a few bucks in your wallet. Just my  :Twocents:.   Bob
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Drache

I dont think its worth anywhere near $500 and in fact some things make me wonder about it. First off the fact that it says Greetings from France in english and then the Les Doro in Spanish. The swastika doesn't seem to be an officially painted one either. In fact I've never seen a german helmet painted that way. I would simply go and pay the money to get it properly appraised and validated.
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Quote from: BMOTOXSTAR on November 25, 2007, 09:58:31 AM
I want one of those to make into a Red Baron Helmet , with a spike in the middle, for when I ride my street bike. :D
just get a plastic nazi half helmet & glue a spike on top?!?!??!  they are only like 30 bucks?!?!/ i pid @$25 for my peanut shell helmet... then another $175 to haave it all airbrushed!!! hahahaha so my $25 plastic helmet..is now a $200 plastic brain bucket!!! LOL
but it's MINE!!!!!!!!!!!  i'll have to take a picture of it!!! of course it's got the punisher skull on it!!! hehehehe
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ALSO DAVE..... i wouldn't get rid of it either....if you don't kneed the $$$ that bad or anything..... i'd hold on to it...just caise it was something your grandfather liked!!!! pass it on to your kids?!?!?!?!?
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Todd Wilson

Here's my grandpa's WWII Army Helmet.   Saw action in WWII and plenty of backyard wars when I was a kid.  I've kept it all these years.

Both helmets go together. Starting to show thier age and the webbing inside is getting bad but thats ok its not gonna see anymore combat. I also have his officers group photo. He had it hanging in his woodshop for who knows how long. After he died my grandma gave it to me. I hope one of these days I can get his dress uniform as its still in a ceder chest tucked away at the house. Sure you cant keep everything but certain keepsakes are neat and important to pass on. Also these pieces of history are starting to be hard to find and that era is about forgotton. The greatest generation!


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rav440

Quote from: Todd Wilson on November 25, 2007, 11:57:54 AM
Thats a great piece of history.   I have my grandpa's WWII US Army helmet. Wouldnt even think about selling it.


Todd



right that was your grandfather own helmet that he was issued & wore during his service  . it wasnt given to him but somebody for some unknown reason . i wouldnt sell it either .

but like i said before you cant keep every little thing that someone close to you held dear to them .

case in point : my mother collects limited edition lithographs & prints she loves them and would never part with them . but when the time comes i have no room for them and 99 % of them will be sold .

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RT DAVE

I have a "local" collector that offered $150 and was going to come to my house immediately from a location 100 miles away.  I told him no.  I'm not selling.  The main reasons I would sell are mainly 1. I won't display in my home.   2. This other guy has a good collection and would appreciate more  3. my g-pa kept it in his basement in a remote corner. 

In regards to the term "Les Doro", that is FRENCH for "the grave" not Spanish. 

The swastika (sp?) is not authentic.  At least that's what grandpa told me.  His buddies allegedly painted that on there along with the "greetings from France"  and the "Les Doro" part.  He always told me that was a bullet hole also.  Haven't really looked at it too closely. 

Thank you all for your input.  You've all made me feel as though i've made the right decision.  I think I will donate to a museum if I decide to get rid of it.   
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Todd Wilson

Theres a german helmet like it on ebay thats at 610$ right now. This helmet has the hole on each side as well. Not a bullet hole but maybe a vent hole? Place to tie things thru? One of yours looks like it may be missing an eyelet.

ebay#  320184609778

Todd


VPFD13

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Todd Wilson

After reading your post again the painting on the helmet may have been from the old country friend. Might have been a thank you or perhaps an inside joke or funny between your grandfather and this friend.  Could also be a cocky german soldier that didnt fare to well and his helmet was picked up for a souvenier?!  Just some thoughts.........either way its neat!


Todd


Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Drache on November 25, 2007, 12:45:13 PM
the Les Doro in Spanish.

What ? I dunno what it does mean that, but definitelly nothing in Spanish
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Nacho-RT74

Quote from: RT DAVE on November 25, 2007, 02:22:15 PM

In regards to the term "Les Doro", that is FRENCH for "the grave" not Spanish. 
that has sense now.

Quote from: RT DAVE on November 25, 2007, 02:22:15 PM
He always told me that was a bullet hole also.  Haven't really looked at it too closely. 

Quote from: Todd Wilson on November 25, 2007, 03:01:08 PM
This helmet has the hole on each side as well. Not a bullet hole but maybe a vent hole? Place to tie things thru? One of yours looks like it may be missing an eyelet.

:iagree:

bullet holes are never that perfect round and they got a dent/depressed area because the impact... then an irregular area on the broken metal.
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