Fender tag info for a 71 R/T

[71 Bee Man]

G'day guys,

someone I know is thinking of buying a 71 R/T Charger, but unfortunately the fender tags are missing. Is there a way to find out what info was on them ? He has the body number.

Also, did 71 R/T's ever come with column shift auto ?

Thanks,

Peter.

[nakita7]

I have heard of people getting tag info from a VIN, not sure how this is done though. Yes, some were column shift.

[71 Bee Man]

I have heard of people getting tag info from a VIN, not sure how this is done though. Yes, some were column shift.

Thanks for the reply. I thought they would have all been T-bar if in auto.

What about electric windows ?

[Goldfinger71]

Yes PW were an option.Mine came that way.

[Hemidoug]

Unfortunately, no way to get the data tag info without a broadcast or some other documentation (ie..Dealer invoice, order sheet, ect...). You could only get a slap stick if the car was equipped with buckets/console. Bench seat/non console cars came with column shift.

[71 Bee Man]

Unfortunately, no way to get the data tag info without a broadcast or some other documentation (ie..Dealer invoice, order sheet, ect...). You could only get a slap stick if the car was equipped with buckets/console. Bench seat/non console cars came with column shift.

That's good to know. Apparently the car has buckets with the fold down armrests, but maybe someone has put them in. The car has been in Japan apparently.

[Ghoste]

Getting the broadcast sheet info by providing the vin is only an option for the cars from 67 and back (and I'm not sure how far back).  From 68 to ? (78? 79?) there is a huge gap where the information was lost and Chrysler can no longer provide it.

[hemi68charger]

Unfortunately, no way to get the data tag info without a broadcast or some other documentation (ie..Dealer invoice, order sheet, ect...). You could only get a slap stick if the car was equipped with buckets/console. Bench seat/non console cars came with column shift.

Doug, weren't buckets standard on all R/T's? Also, if the console wasn't ordered, then a buddy seat / column selector would be standard? I know in '70 all Charger R/T's had buckets with column auto as standard equipment...  I'll have to look at my sale brochures...

[71 Bee Man]

Unfortunately, no way to get the data tag info without a broadcast or some other documentation (ie..Dealer invoice, order sheet, ect...). You could only get a slap stick if the car was equipped with buckets/console. Bench seat/non console cars came with column shift.

Doug, weren't buckets standard on all R/T's? Also, if the console wasn't ordered, then a buddy seat / column selector would be standard? I know in '70 all Charger R/T's had buckets with column auto as standard equipment...  I'll have to look at my sale brochures...

The "fold down armrest" I mentioned may well be the buddy seat you're referring to. My main concern was whether or not 1971 R/T's actually came with coulumn auto - I was always of the belief that they would have at least been t-bar.

Peter

[Brock Samson]

sure they did. not big question there.. buddy seat = fold down arm rests... presumably for a middle passenger,.. has it got lap belts for three in front?

[Hemidoug]

Unfortunately, no way to get the data tag info without a broadcast or some other documentation (ie..Dealer invoice, order sheet, ect...). You could only get a slap stick if the car was equipped with buckets/console. Bench seat/non console cars came with column shift.

Doug, weren't buckets standard on all R/T's? Also, if the console wasn't ordered, then a buddy seat / column selector would be standard? I know in '70 all Charger R/T's had buckets with column auto as standard equipment...  I'll have to look at my sale brochures...

Not sure on that, but the buckets/buddy seat is known as a split bench seat. It may have been an option instead of standard buckets (no cost option maybe). Someone with a sales brochure should be able to answer that one....

71 Beeman...can you post some pics of the car/interior? That would take some of the confusion of buckets/bench seat out of it......

[Brock Samson]

it's there on my third gen roar runner broshure..

[69CoronetRT]

Unfortunately, no way to get the data tag info without a broadcast or some other documentation (ie..Dealer invoice, order sheet, ect...). You could only get a slap stick if the car was equipped with buckets/console. Bench seat/non console cars came with column shift.

Doug, weren't buckets standard on all R/T's? Also, if the console wasn't ordered, then a buddy seat / column selector would be standard? I know in '70 all Charger R/T's had buckets with column auto as standard equipment...  I'll have to look at my sale brochures...

Not sure on that, but the buckets/buddy seat is known as a split bench seat. It may have been an option instead of standard buckets (no cost option maybe). Someone with a sales brochure should be able to answer that one....

71 Beeman...can you post some pics of the car/interior? That would take some of the confusion of buckets/bench seat out of it......

The data book and color and trim book are available on line. You can see what was standard as well as the interior options:

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/library.shtml

[nakita7]

What's the scoop on this car?

[71 Bee Man]

What's the scoop on this car?

G'day guys,

firstly, thanks heaps for taking time with this thread. The guy looking at the car ( like myself) is flying blind with no-one really to consult down here, other than you guys on the net.

First, it's the louvered hood.

Second, haven't got any interior shots yet.

Third......here's the big one.....he reckons the Vin number starts with WP29.

To my understanding all R/T's in 71 were WS29. Is that right. In saying that though, is it possible that if this car was originally exported to Japan (which i don't know....just throwing it out there) that the car could have carried that prefix ?

The engine has the numbers E440 8 19

I take this as being a 440 V8 made on the 19th August. Does the E stand for 1970, and if so is this the number a 71 R/T would have, because I know that my Bee was actually made in 1970, so one would assume the engine would be as well.

Again, any help is GREATLY appreciated. Just trying to either help the guy make a wise decision, or stop him from a costly mistake.

Thanks,

Peter
Sydney, Australia.

[Ghoste]

The second digit represents a trim level within the model and wouldn't have changed based on delivery destination.  I didn't write the rules for Chrysler so the room for error exists but it makes no sense and is unprecented as far as I know.  In 71 a WP would be a Charger 500 or SE.  Did he get the rest of the vin for you, specifically engine size?

[71 Bee Man]

The second digit represents a trim level within the model and wouldn't have changed based on delivery destination.  I didn't write the rules for Chrysler so the room for error exists but it makes no sense and is unprecented as far as I know.  In 71 a WP would be a Charger 500 or SE.  Did he get the rest of the vin for you, specifically engine size?

Well......that's the other thing. I've been to the "My Mopar" decoder site and it tranlates to 383 two barrell. I can't help but think there's something amiss.

[Ghoste]

Those two red flags in the vin would tend to make me stay away from it if it is being promoted and priced as an actual RT.  If it's priced according to what it is, then I'd be going over very very carefully in case there are any other "discrepancies" with the car.

[69CoronetRT]

The second digit represents a trim level within the model and wouldn't have changed based on delivery destination.  I didn't write the rules for Chrysler so the room for error exists but it makes no sense and is unprecented as far as I know.  In 71 a WP would be a Charger 500 or SE.  Did he get the rest of the vin for you, specifically engine size?

Well......that's the other thing. I've been to the "My Mopar" decoder site and it tranlates to 383 two barrell. I can't help but think there's something amiss.

The engine has the numbers E440 8 19

E440 = an engine out a 69 model car. Check the VIN on the pad on the passenger's side of the block. With that early of an assembly date (Aug 19th) , I'll bet it has all 13 digits. That will tell you what it came out of.

Sounds like someone one is trying to pass off a 71 500 model as an R/T.

[nakita7]

Not an RT. WP29 is an SE (WP23 would be a 500). Clone it? Part it? Drive it? Lots of options....

[71 Bee Man]

Not an RT. WP29 is an SE (WP23 would be a 500). Clone it? Part it? Drive it? Lots of options....

G'day again guys,

I've stopped short of giving all the numbers etc simply because it's not my car and I'm just trying to help someone make the right decision. I'm also not in a oposition to comment on the seller - chance is that maybe they have been misled also, if that's the case.

I'm trying to get some pictures, but if you knew the price that was being asked for this car, then it's certainly on the "upper end" for what it actually is - even if it were an R/T. Mind you, that's once the Australian dollars including shipping etc is all factored in.

So basically, even if it were an Export car of sorts, it should still have the WS prefix - right

Peter

[69CoronetRT]

Not an RT. WP29 is an SE (WP23 would be a 500). Clone it? Part it? Drive it? Lots of options....

So basically, even if it were an Export car of sorts, it should still have the WS prefix - right

Yes. An R/T model would have a WS prefix whether it was an export or not.

[Hemidoug]

Sounds to me like a clone....like others before stated...WP is SE or 500 NOT R/T. it would also explain the split bench seat.....One thing is for SURE...it's NOT an R/T.

[mopar1]

G'day guys,

someone I know is thinking of buying a 71 R/T Charger, but unfortunately the fender tags are missing. Is there a way to find out what info was on them ? He has the body number.

Also, did 71 R/T's ever come with column shift auto ?
If serious I have a beautiful 71 R/T in Canada,I can forward pics in order to make a offer. Let me know
Thanks,

Peter.