V2 Hemi Daytona on ebay

[pettybird]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Museum-Quality-Matching-Number-Hemi-Daytona_W0QQitemZ170170276670QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6210QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[FJMG]

With the exeption of the tach, the car is a twin to the one that showed up at Shakopee last summer.
Hemigeno, the axle bumper mystery continues!?

[hemigeno]

With the exeption of the tach, the car is a twin to the one that showed up at Shakopee last summer.
Hemigeno, the axle bumper mystery continues!?

We got a real good look at that car @ Carlisle this year.  Very nice car overall, but the term over-restored is definitely applicable.  As nice as that car is, I would not hold that car up as an absolute example of factory-correctness.  Hard to say what the axle bumpers were originally - although it's definitely possible they were the smaller triangle-shaped kind rather than the typical Dana-style.   

[69_500]

Just curious but does anyone have some of the paperwork he is listing in the acution?

•     Copy of 44 page Painting and Materials procedures which includes painting and masking techniques, trim, preparation, cleaning, drips,  flaws, stripes, interior, polishes and STANDARDS for the assembly line workers.

•     Copy of 5 page Daytona parts lists with blowup photos and detailed part descriptions and numbers specific to Daytona, dated 11-69

•     Copy of a 40 page study on Aerodynamic Development of the Daytona for Stock Car Competition.
   
•     115 page Copy of engineering drawings, plans and sheets. MORE OR LESS THE CORPORATION'S "DAYTONA BUILD BIBLE."

[UFO]

Interested in paperwork as well.I would to get a copy of that blank charger order form.

[69_500]

I noticed that they failed to post a picture of the front wheel trim though? So I thought I'd post a picture of it.

[69_500]

Hmm, now that I shrunk that down to 20% of its size its hard to see that its a modified 70 piece though and not the daytona wheel trim. Also looks like they painted one of the screws on the fender tag since Carlisle as well. Both screws were bare metal at Carlisle.

[69_500]

Here is a shot of it at Carlisle.

[69_500]

Now it makes me wonder if this car had anything wrote on the top of the tail light's before its restoration. I see in one my pictures of the car that it has the trunk light bracket, which all of the cars with the "Yes" wrote on the tail lights had as well.

[UFO]

Just spotted something missing--the "charger" C pillar emblem.Or Just not attached at the time pics were taken.I guess they are using the barrel nuts now that headliner is in.

[69_500]

I don't even see where the holes are to mount the "Charger" script. Looks like they filled them in. No evidence of a hole even when I enlarge the pictures I took up to a 30"x48".

[UFO]

Maybe a vinyl top was installed long ago and emblems not used after?
Or one of those whoops forgot to drill the holes.

[Ghoste]

Just curious but does anyone have some of the paperwork he is listing in the acution?

•     Copy of 5 page Daytona parts lists with blowup photos and detailed part descriptions and numbers specific to Daytona, dated 11-69

I have a copy of that one... someplace.  I have heard of the aerodynamic study and seen copies of portions of it.  The other two I've never even heard of.  It would be nice to see them all assembled in one cohesive package for the world to read.

[Brock Samson]

that is interesting..

[BROCK]

Just curious but does anyone have some of the paperwork he is listing in the acution?

•     Copy of 44 page Painting and Materials procedures which includes painting and masking techniques, trim, preparation, cleaning, drips,  flaws, stripes, interior, polishes and STANDARDS for the assembly line workers.

•     Copy of 5 page Daytona parts lists with blowup photos and detailed part descriptions and numbers specific to Daytona, dated 11-69

•     Copy of a 40 page study on Aerodynamic Development of the Daytona for Stock Car Competition.
   
•     115 page Copy of engineering drawings, plans and sheets. MORE OR LESS THE CORPORATION'S "DAYTONA BUILD BIBLE."

I have the SAE Paper "The Aerodynamic Development of the Daytona for Stock Car Competition"
My scanner is broken though.
Paper 700036 presented at the Automotive Engioneering Congress, Detroit, January 1970
It was printed as an 11 page document in 1978 as SAE/PT-78/16/$02.50
Copyright 1978 Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc.

I found it in the University of Texas at Arlington Library in 1982.  Not sure which volume it is in - but it starts on page 87


I'd be interested in finding all these documents myself - or at least good copies!

[hemi68charger]

That thing's Sweet !!!!!  Not sure if it's going to be a top-getter, but she should fetch a heafty sum..

[nascarxx29]

I have original selling dealer paperwork on that car it was Ed Ryans.Then Chip B I recall Jim Radke and know Johns in PA.I sent him those papers and other info I knew about that car.I know some of those other papers I have 2 of them but not the 4 of them. He listed but not at all as there never seems to be a much for the daytonas as the superbird

[UFO]

Scans of the parts list are not hard to locate.In the Canadian parts book they're bound  in with the other parts.It's the U.S. version thats loose leaf pages.

[nascarxx29]

I have all the wingcar parts from the old loose leaf parts books on a disc.Just got to find it..The daytona parts are on 5 loose leaf pages dated Nov 1969.And this is probably one of the others papers mentioned

[daytonalo]

Hey guy's , not a hunk of shit !!!!!!!!!!!!! The nicest Daytona yet ! over restored , but super nice !!!

[70charger_boy]

Hey guy's , not a hunk of shit !!!!!!!!!!!!! The nicest Daytona yet ! over restored , but super nice !!!

Mark my words.  I will buy that car and I will drive it every single day.  Rain,sleet,snow. 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Just curious but does anyone have some of the paperwork he is listing in the acution?

•     Copy of 44 page Painting and Materials procedures which includes painting and masking techniques, trim, preparation, cleaning, drips,  flaws, stripes, interior, polishes and STANDARDS for the assembly line workers.

•     Copy of 5 page Daytona parts lists with blowup photos and detailed part descriptions and numbers specific to Daytona, dated 11-69

•     Copy of a 40 page study on Aerodynamic Development of the Daytona for Stock Car Competition.
   
•     115 page Copy of engineering drawings, plans and sheets. MORE OR LESS THE CORPORATION'S "DAYTONA BUILD BIBLE."

I have the SAE report mentioned earlier as well as two wind tunnel reports (the E-Series & F-Series reports, IIRC).  As with a lot of my paperwork, the reports are lost somewhere in the archive pile...   Several years ago I had started to scan in one of the reports for Ken N. (one he did not already have) to add to his website & sent him about 8-10 pages, but I never finished the project.  Another long overdue task... 

XS

[69_500]

I was asking because I've seen part of the 40 page aero papers he is talking about but I'm really intersted in the 44 page, and the 115 page packages. Those really pique my interests if you know what I mean.

[Ghoste]

Those two seem to be the ones that have piqued everyones interests.  Has anyone else ever seen either of these documents?

[UFO]

I have seen the 115 page deal.Its like an instruction sheet on how creative was "supposed" to build the cars.

[69_500]

The nicest Daytona yet ! over restored , but super nice !!!

Going to have to disagree with you on this one. Not the nicest Daytona yet. Not even the nicest Daytona that was at Carlisle this year.

[tan top]

  sure love to have that one  ........................

[69bronzeT5]

Mark my words.  I will buy that car and I will drive it every single day.  Rain,sleet,snow. 

sureeee.............

Thanks for posting the auction, I just added the vin number to my database

[65post]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Museum-Quality-Matching-Number-Hemi-Daytona_W0QQitemZ170170276670QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6210QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Fitz73Chrgr]

 

Thats my dream car right there.  I'm sure it is quite a few others dream car as well. 

[hemigeno]

 

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[69bronzeT5]

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there it is! I was trying to look for it but I couldnt find it. I thought to myself....I swear I posted in a thread about that car..and I guess I was right

[moparstuart]

 very nice car and a hemi also ,  wow  not met reserve yet either ? and in this soft market

[69_500]

Alright so what is the second link for? This one?

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I tried clicking on it, but it says I'm not authorized to see it.

Man I wanna know wing car secrets too. 

[moparstuart]

Alright so what is the second link for? This one?

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I tried clicking on it, but it says I'm not authorized to see it.

Man I wanna know wing car secrets too. 

we have no access ?

[hemigeno]

Alright so what is the second link for? This one?

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I tried clicking on it, but it says I'm not authorized to see it.

Man I wanna know wing car secrets too. 

Well, when the second thread started up I replied with a link to the first one - in the hopes that further comments would have been added to the original thread.

When the other comments started rolling in I thought it would be better to merge the threads since they are both about the same car.  However when I did the merge, the link I put into the second thread referencing the first thread was then messed up - since the original pre-merge thread is (I think) buried in the Forum's Server backup.  It takes someone with Troy's level of access to get into the backup/archives, and that isn't necessary even for the Moderators to have - meaning I get the same message you get.

The link I posted was intended to take people to this thread, so it's a circular reference now anyway.

Lesson for Geno:  Lock duplicate threads...

[69_500]

So its now a never ending cirlce, or is it a circle with an end?  I'm confused now.

Oh side note, its not exactly my dream car, yeah its a Daytona which is dream car #1 on my list. Yeah its a HEMI, which is dream #1 to go with dream car #1. Its the wrong color combination though for my dream, and oh yeah its missing that shifter that has numbers on it without the D, I think its a called a 4 speed.

[moparstuart]

So its now a never ending cirlce, or is it a circle with an end?  I'm confused now.

Oh side note, its not exactly my dream car, yeah its a Daytona which is dream car #1 on my list. Yeah its a HEMI, which is dream #1 to go with dream car #1. Its the wrong color combination though for my dream, and oh yeah its missing that shifter that has numbers on it without the D, I think its a called a 4 speed.

your way to picky LOL

[69_500]

Yeah I know. I'm so picky that as long as it has XX in the VIN I like it. But that doesn't mean its the favorite of those. There are at least 630 known to choose from, but yeah I do have a few that are absolute favorites.

[moparstuart]

Yeah I know. I'm so picky that as long as it has XX in the VIN I like it. But that doesn't mean its the favorite of those. There are at least 630 known to choose from, but yeah I do have a few that are absolute favorites.

at this point in life i would take anything i could get real or not ( but would love to have any real one )

[Troy]

Gene, when you merged the threads all the posts became part of this one so, technically, the old one is gone forever. I get the same message you guys do since it doesn't exist. It's probably best to remove the link altogether since it pretty much slams into a wall rather than circling.

Troy

[hemigeno]

Gene, when you merged the threads all the posts became part of this one so, technically, the old one is gone forever. I get the same message you guys do since it doesn't exist. It's probably best to remove the link altogether since it pretty much slams into a wall rather than circling.

Troy

Gotcha.  Already cleaned up the mess I made...

You'd think after this long I'd have the hang of this Moderator thing - Good to know that the reinforcements have arrived!!

[Troy]

Gene, when you merged the threads all the posts became part of this one so, technically, the old one is gone forever. I get the same message you guys do since it doesn't exist. It's probably best to remove the link altogether since it pretty much slams into a wall rather than circling.

Troy

Gotcha.  Already cleaned up the mess I made...

You'd think after this long I'd have the hang of this Moderator thing - Good to know that the reinforcements have arrived!!

Ha! Should I tell everyone else?

Troy

[hemigeno]

Ha! Should I tell everyone else?

Troy

They'll find out sooner or later (if they haven't already)   

[69_500]

  Yeah the reinforcements finally made it to this section. 

Okay anyways back to the topic at hand.  HEMI DAYTONA's Gotta love 'em.

[Moparmatty]

Just to ad to the rear axle bumper debate.  My '70 440+6 Roadrunner, 4.10 Dana, had the non-Dana bumpers on it from the factory.

[69_500]

Are you guys talking about the rubber bumper, or the metal bracket that the rubber piece attaches to?

[hemigeno]

Danny, we've been looking at the framerail bumpers not the pinion bumper.  Most Dana cars did get the larger bumpers, but there seem to be more than a few exceptions to the rule.  The factory's paperwork isn't too clear on the subject either and I haven't been able to find a definitive answer yet.

The car we looked at in Detroit was one of the cars that had the smaller bumpers even though it's a Dana car.  I just didn't pay close enough attention or ask any questions about it at the time.   

I am wondering though... were the 727+Dana cars more likely to have the smaller bumpers than the 4-speed cars?  Curious to know if the "exception" cars were all automatics.   

[69_500]

Hey Gene, quit adding things for me to look and stare at on the show field would ya? 

Now I'm going to be looking at front fenders, engine compartments and holes, rivets, bolt heads, rear marker bezels, jack's and their hold down plate location, top of tail lights for hidden messages, and then crawling under cars to look for bumpers. Ah well I guess I tend to only look at 3-4 cars at each show anyways, why not. 

[Charger-Bodie]

.....on the topic of the frame rail bumpers (bottom out bumpers) : last year we did a restoration a 69 1/2 rr it had the small bumpers and they were buried in factory undercoat so Im sure they were original! ....and yes it was a Dana60 car EDIT also a 4 speed!

[69_500]

Hmmm, well I only have shots of one car from underneath on a lift, and its hard to make out in this photo but this is an AT HEMI car with 4.10 gears. Not sure which way you see more common Gene, but here is another example anyways.