AHA! Screw CA Gun Laws!

[Rolling_Thunder]

So...      I have had this problem for a while...     I purchased an AR-15 lower reciever a long time ago and never got around to building it...    stupid CA gun laws and all...          so...     I just contracted my buddy to build it (Being an Army Airborne Ranger he gets "Adda Boy" discounts at most places)  -    so...         Looking like a Bushmaster 5.56 Upper (M4 model) - Trijicon ACOG - M4 butt - and the all pathetic CA mandated 10 round magazine...          but oh well...          it'll be nice when me and my buddys go to AZ to shoot and slap in 30 round mags...


anyone else here own and AR-15 ?     

[SnoPro440]

I own one.  I traded my Armalite AR50 for it and a S&W 460.  It's a Rock River Tactical CAR UTE2.  I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I have 2 BETA drums waiting for it.  I had a Bushmaster XM15-ES2.  It was a great rifle.  I put aobut 6500 rounds through it and sold it for $50 less than I originally paid for it.

[VPFD13]

I do DPMS M4, collapsible stock. It's one of my "Black gun" collection. Ever since I got out The Army I have been collecting new and old Military weapons.

[AKcharger]

That's why I love Alaska...we trust our citizens

[Ponch ®]

That's why I love Alaska...we trust our citizens

jesus man...u gettin ready to invade Iran or something?

I'm all for gun ownership rights and all, but that's a little overkill (no pun intended).

[bull]

You only need one, right Ponch? Right, how about you apply that logic to women and cars?

[ChgrSteve67]

You need at least three.

One to shoot back with while you are reloading the other.

Also a spare to protect yourself while the police are holding the ones you defended yourself with.

Steve (Also live in CA)

[Ponch ®]

You only need one, right Ponch? Right, how about you apply that logic to women and cars?

you got me there.

[HITMAN 149]

ohhhhh trust me jersey aint no picinic either!!!!! there really isn't anywhere close to me to shoot.. other wise i'd have an AR & an AK.. and everything else... bUT NOOOOOOO... jersey gun laws suck!! and i'm a friggggggin cop!!! hahahaha  we even need a permit to go and buy a friggin BB GUN!!!!!!!!!!!
i have my two glocks for now... we just re-qualified last week or so. i'm thinkin on picking up a stainless 45!?!?! why?? cause i have no idea.. i just always wanted one... at least i could go to the indoor range and shoot it!!!

[AKcharger]

That's why I love Alaska...we trust our citizens

jesus man...u gettin ready to invade Iran or something?

I'm all for gun ownership rights and all, but that's a little overkill (no pun intended).

Not with the threat of Zombie attack ever present!! 

[HITMAN 149]

you guys that live in coooool states are sooo lucky!!!  hehehehehe
but your right AK...the zombies are everywhere!!!

[max]

you guys that live in coooool states are sooo lucky!!! 

i'm not sure i live in one of the cool states or not but either way lately i have been buying a few and putting them back. coarse i do have my permit to carry a concelled weapon.

btw, has anyone noticed the increase price of amo lately?

and from what i have heard it is going up again next month.

i guess if the goverment can't take the guns away they will price the shells so high no one will be able to afford to shoot them.  

[dukeboy_318]

yeah indiana laws aint too bad, ive got an AR-15, AK47, Remmington 870 tactical, bennilli M2 tactical, Mossberg 500 TA, and a pre ban Ruger 1022.  dads got more, a lot more

[HITMAN 149]

you guys that live in coooool states are sooo lucky!!! 

i'm not sure i live in one of the cool states or not but either way lately i have been buying a few and putting them back. coarse i do have my permit to carry a concelled weapon.

btw, has anyone noticed the increase price of amo lately?

and from what i have heard it is going up again next month.

i guess if the goverment can't take the guns away they will price the shells so high no one will be able to afford to shoot them.  

yea ammo is more expensive dur to a shortage  because of the war...  is what i heard

[max]

you guys that live in coooool states are sooo lucky!!! 

i'm not sure i live in one of the cool states or not but either way lately i have been buying a few and putting them back. coarse i do have my permit to carry a concelled weapon.

btw, has anyone noticed the increase price of amo lately?

and from what i have heard it is going up again next month.

i guess if the goverment can't take the guns away they will price the shells so high no one will be able to afford to shoot them.  

yea ammo is more expensive dur to a shortage  because of the war...  is what i heard

the story i heard was the shipping companies will have to start getting special permits to carry the stuff, like hazzard materal permits or something to that nature.

[dukeboy_318]

you guys that live in coooool states are sooo lucky!!! 

i'm not sure i live in one of the cool states or not but either way lately i have been buying a few and putting them back. coarse i do have my permit to carry a concelled weapon.

btw, has anyone noticed the increase price of amo lately?

and from what i have heard it is going up again next month.

i guess if the goverment can't take the guns away they will price the shells so high no one will be able to afford to shoot them.  

yea ammo is more expensive dur to a shortage  because of the war...  is what i heard

the story i heard was the shipping companies will have to start getting special permits to carry the stuff, like hazzard materal permits or something to that nature.

That was actually something that OSHA was trying to get passed and did but the supreme court ruled it unconsitutional back over the summer.  Plan was to require permits to transport ammo and then manufactures could only produce X amount a year, then gun owners were to have a limit on how much they could buy.  Luckily it got shot down,

[dukeboy_318]

moral of story above, buy buy buy buy ammo now

[max]

you guys that live in coooool states are sooo lucky!!! 

i'm not sure i live in one of the cool states or not but either way lately i have been buying a few and putting them back. coarse i do have my permit to carry a concelled weapon.

btw, has anyone noticed the increase price of amo lately?

and from what i have heard it is going up again next month.

i guess if the goverment can't take the guns away they will price the shells so high no one will be able to afford to shoot them.  

yea ammo is more expensive dur to a shortage  because of the war...  is what i heard

the story i heard was the shipping companies will have to start getting special permits to carry the stuff, like hazzard materal permits or something to that nature.

That was actually something that OSHA was trying to get passed and did but the supreme court ruled it unconsitutional back over the summer.  Plan was to require permits to transport ammo and then manufactures could only produce X amount a year, then gun owners were to have a limit on how much they could buy.  Luckily it got shot down,

dukeboy_318, thanks for clearing that up but as you said buy right now while you can, it will always go up in price. i just bought a Star 9mm Super A handgun built on that 1911 frame the other day and it will shoot darn near anything you can run through it coarse it doesn't like 9x17 shells to well but it will shoot them one at a time.
i have been trying to buy guns that will shoot more then one type of ammo just in case a certain size gets harder or more expensive to find.

[Rolling_Thunder]

I'm currently looking for a M1911 model in 9mm...     cant seem to find ANY!   the only one I can find is Wilson Combat - but im not paying $2500-$4000 for one...       any other ideas ?

[SnoPro440]

You should be able to find a Springfield for around $800 new.  Here's a link to one.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/SS-43761.html

[Rocky]

I'm currently looking for a M1911 model in 9mm...     cant seem to find ANY!   the only one I can find is Wilson Combat - but im not paying $2500-$4000 for one...       any other ideas ?

Why not get the standard .45?  The 1911 was based off the .45 so finding one in the much smaller 9mm caliber is going to be difficult.  You might be better off buying a standard .45 and also buying a 9mm conversion kit if it is available.  I havn't looked but it is probably out there.

Just out of curiosity, why do you want a 1911 chambered in 9mm?

[mally69]

Yea , here in PA the ammo is getting outrageous for everything ,from what i hear they are going to crack down on the purchasing ammo  since they can't get the the guns. Heck, my little cousin has a .17 rimfire and he always went to walmart to buy shells for it  untill one day told him that he had to be 21 to buy them instead of 18, i had to go buy them for him it was ludcris... 

[max]

I'm currently looking for a M1911 model in 9mm...     cant seem to find ANY!   the only one I can find is Wilson Combat - but im not paying $2500-$4000 for one...       any other ideas ?

the 1911 frame is a very popular frame among many of the different manufactures and i have seen them priced all over the board. if you can find a local gun show i would go to one of them and look at all the different brands and see if any of them meet your price range.

[ChgrSteve67]

California is starting to outlaw the use of ammo containing lead.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lead9dec09,1,3191608.story?coll=la-headlines-california

[max]

California is starting to outlaw the use of ammo containing lead.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lead9dec09,1,3191608.story?coll=la-headlines-california

i guess we'll be able to bare arms, just not be able to shoot them.

[mally69]

Just my      I think these guns laws and restriction are 100%    My resoning on this is, How many crimes do you hear of that consist of assualt weapons and military style guns ( hardly ever ) most crimes use handguns and shot guns, but yet it still seems to me that people are still attacking the assault weapons or military style weapons. I  LOVE guns and i Don't want them going after pistols and shotguns either. How hard is is to conceal an AR-15 or an AK-47, It would be pretty hard... I hate guns laws/ restrictions,  those anti gun people can stick there laws right up their    People kill people, NOT guns, anything is this world can be made to kill someone, So why blame it ALL on guns?  Why is it that no other country in the world  would dare to set their troops on foot into this country. Becuase I have guns, YOU have guns, my neighbor has gun  his brother ... etc....   That is what makes this country strong, Also all the troops that we have fighting or have fought  for our freedom make it even STRONGER   ( Thank you fellas)  and then you have people trying to take that way from us. Guns are absoluetly The second best hobby i have ( charger's 1st) but they are so much fun to have and own, and some  people that don't like them evidently has never had the chance to get out there set up a few targets and fire away at them..  I beleive or think  that car crashes claim more victims/year than people using guns
These are just some of my thoughts ....

Im I correct 

[Charger74]

Just my      I think these guns laws and restriction are 100%    My resoning on this is, How many crimes do you hear of that consist of assualt weapons and military style guns ( hardly ever ) most crimes use handguns and shot guns, but yet it still seems to me that people are still attacking the assault weapons or military style weapons. I  LOVE guns and i Don't want them going after pistols and shotguns either. How hard is is to conceal an AR-15 or an AK-47, It would be pretty hard... I hate guns laws/ restrictions,  those anti gun people can stick there laws right up their    People kill people, NOT guns, anything is this world can be made to kill someone, So why blame it ALL on guns?  Why is it that no other country in the world  would dare to set their troops on foot into this country. Becuase I have guns, YOU have guns, my neighbor has gun  his brother ... etc....   That is what makes this country strong, Also all the troops that we have fighting or have fought  for our freedom make it even STRONGER   ( Thank you fellas)  and then you have people trying to take that way from us. Guns are absoluetly The second best hobby i have ( charger's 1st) but they are so much fun to have and own, and some  people that don't like them evidently has never had the chance to get out there set up a few targets and fire away at them..  I beleive or think  that car crashes claim more victims/year than people using guns
These are just some of my thoughts ....

Im I correct 

Because without guns, the government can do whatever it wants and does not have to fear us revolting against them....  Remember only law abiding citizens obey gun laws, criminals do not.......

[mally69]

Because without guns, the government can do whatever it wants and does not have to fear us revolting against them....  Remember only law abiding citizens obey gun laws, criminals do not.......

Good point 

[max]

Just my      I think these guns laws and restriction are 100%    My resoning on this is, How many crimes do you hear of that consist of assualt weapons and military style guns ( hardly ever ) most crimes use handguns and shot guns, but yet it still seems to me that people are still attacking the assault weapons or military style weapons. I  LOVE guns and i Don't want them going after pistols and shotguns either. How hard is is to conceal an AR-15 or an AK-47, It would be pretty hard... I hate guns laws/ restrictions,  those anti gun people can stick there laws right up their    People kill people, NOT guns, anything is this world can be made to kill someone, So why blame it ALL on guns?  Why is it that no other country in the world  would dare to set their troops on foot into this country. Becuase I have guns, YOU have guns, my neighbor has gun  his brother ... etc....   That is what makes this country strong, Also all the troops that we have fighting or have fought  for our freedom make it even STRONGER   ( Thank you fellas)  and then you have people trying to take that way from us. Guns are absoluetly The second best hobby i have ( charger's 1st) but they are so much fun to have and own, and some  people that don't like them evidently has never had the chance to get out there set up a few targets and fire away at them..  I beleive or think  that car crashes claim more victims/year than people using guns
These are just some of my thoughts ....

Im I correct 

very good point indeed.

to be honest it should be the other way around and folks should be required to carry, atleast that would give the criminals something to consider when they go to rob someone.

the way it stands now a criminal only has to worry about spending a small bit of time if they are caught, but if everyone carried then they would have to worry about being shot first.

from what i have seen over the years a crimial is only worried about having the upper hand when robbing someone but if the playing field was equal then the chances of them considering the crime would go down.

someone correct me, but wasn't there a small town in Texas where folks were required to carry and the crime rate fell by nearly 90%?