how do I get rid of the damn moose??

[RECHRGD]

OK, we've lived out in the sticks of Eastern Washington now for over 15 years.  We still love it, but are looking at some of the wildlife a little differently than in the earlier years.  We have a small apple and cherry orchard on our property.  Several years back a moose cow stared showing up a few times a year with her calves and would commence to eating some of the twigs off of the trees.  It's gotten to the point now, that they are doing some serious damage to the trees.  Today the wife and I took up strategic positions around the house.  I was armed with a CO2 powered BB pistol and the little woman carried the heavier artillary in the form of a pump pellet rifle.  Although the evil beasts were annoyed by the little projectiles bouncing off their bodies, it took about 100+ shots to get them to exit the area and stop tearing the branches off the trees.  They only retreated for an hour or so and then returned for more feasting until repelled by more volleys of small arms fire.  I know they will return tonight as we sleep.  I don't want to pull out the heavy arms and have no desire to field dress out about 2500 pounds of moose flesh.  Should we continue with the current form of deterance or is there a better way that is still not lethal to keep them from killing the fruit trees?  I know we need to be careful of these mammoths and don't want to get killed by a pissed off mother moose.  Any and all ideas are welcome.   Thanks, Bob

[mikepmcs]

2500 pounds come on! big 7+ to maybe 800, but no such thing as a 2500 pound moose.

You need a .270 and that's it...one shot and you eat well for the whole year.

I'll come get rid of it for you.
call me!!! please

v/r
Mike

[70charger_boy]

First of all, BB Guns are not effective against a 3,000+ lb animal.

You need a .45 caliber or shotgun

[Guns N Rotors]

Seriously, you need some wolf wizz.  

Scares the bejeebus out of the moose!

http://www.provenrepellents.com/products.php?pid=77715025

[RECHRGD]

Well, when you look at ALL the moose flesh I'm looking at, it probably isn't too far away from being 2500 pounds.  I've got plenty of adequate fire power to do the beasts in, but my freezers are full and I just want to let them know that our fruit trees are off limits.  But, they do seem pretty dumb and seem to fear nothing at all.   Bob

[RECHRGD]

Seriously, you need some wolf wizz. 

Scares the bejeebus out of the moose!

http://www.provenrepellents.com/products.php?pid=77715025

Wolf wizz?  Sounds good.  Probably worth a try, even though they've not been in this area for several decades, I guess there may be something engrained in their brains that alerts them.  BTW, I think I've heard wolves in the distance in the last few years.   Bob

[skip68]

Have you contacted the Forest Service or Fish & Game Dept.  to ask what may a good, non-lethal remedy?  That would be my first task if I were you! 
Mrs.Skip68

P.S.
I know that when we had problems with deer eating our gardens, we would put a half bar of the strongest bath soap on the fence posts at random spots. The deer never liked the scent.  Also,........  although I never liked it, Chuck would make his mark on tree's! NO I AM NOT KIDDIN! But it worked!  
Mrs.Skip68

[mally69]

Listen, a moose will not think twice about stompling you in the ground they are very big and will kill you. If the tree is tall enough that it cannot reach you if you climbed up in it try this......    Get a big squirt gun like a super soaker  fill it full of house hold ammonia when the bastard comes under you and goes to eat a branch spray the sucker right in the snoot..  trust me it will leave after it gets done slapping around on the ground  like a little bitch      Im serious , just dont fall out of the tree.. it WILL kill you.

Or fill a balloon up with ammonia and smear peanut butter on it and hang it about the mooses head height so it has to reach up to lick the balloon then when it breaks,, good night,, that thing will totally loose it when it gets a snoot full of that shit..

[70charger_boy]

Listen, a moose will not think twice about stompling you in the ground they are very big and will kill you. If the tree is tall enough that it cannot reach you if you climbed up in it try this......    Get a big squirt gun like a super soaker  fill it full of house hold ammonia when the bastard comes under you and goes to eat a branch spray the sucker right in the snoot..  trust me it will leave after it gets done slapping around on the ground  like a little bitch      Im serious , just dont fall out of the tree.. it WILL kill you.

Or fill a balloon up with ammonia and smear peanut butter on it and hang it about the mooses head height so it has to reach up to lick the balloon then when it breaks,, good night,, that thing will totally loose it when it gets a snoot full of that shit..

Very good advice.  I hope that members of P.E.T.A. aren't trolling the web

[mally69]

It wont hurt the moose at all it will just clear out it sinus's..

[dads_69]

Moose are dumb, but don't take crap from anyone! They will stomp a mud hole in you or whoever is in they're way. These are behind our house here in Alaska. So, Moose are around almost every weekend during the winter months due to lack of food in the mountains.
Mark

[Guns N Rotors]

Moose fear wolves above all else. Don't climb trees with balloons,
don't shoot them with BB guns. Don't put your life in danger.

Use the wolf wizz.

These pics are from a guy in a tree stand.

If you want to see the final outcome, click the link.

http://huntinglife.blogspot.com/2007/02/wolf-attack-on-moose-from-tree-stand.html

[mally69]

if the balloon is hangin out there in a tree and your watching from the window inside a house, how would that put your life in danger     


ok P.E.T.A. look at how this moose was killed it probably took 20 min of pain,, I could take them much faster ( HUNTING)  with LESS pain,,, than what old mother nature will take them.   

[bull]

Non-lethal? How about setting off some M-80s? It probably wouldn't work forever but it would definitely get them on the run at first. An electric fence might work too. One good pop on that big wet nose and she'll be running like a scalded cat.

First of all, BB Guns are not effective against a 3,000+ lb animal.

You need a .45 caliber or shotgun

A .45? That's a good one. Make sure you're about 15 feet away and aim right between her eyes. Better loose the hollow-points too or they'll just bounce off her head and then she'll come and stomp you into the ground. A scatter gun wouldn't do much either unless you use 00 buck or slugs. Even with 00 buckshot you'd probably have to hit her about five times.

Something like this would bring her down in one or two shots if you hit her right:

[70charger_boy]

   That is the first time I have seen you laugh, Bull 

[mally69]

Top one is a ruger M77 and im lost on the bottom one 

[bull]

  That is the first time I have seen you laugh, Bull 

I laugh at you all the time.

[bull]

Top one is a ruger M77 and im lost on the bottom one 

It's just a good-old 30-06 Springfield.

[mally69]

Top one is a ruger M77 and im lost on the bottom one 

It's just a good-old 30-06 Springfield.

Best caliber ever created 

[The70RT]

I was thinking wolf urine as I read the thread and then seen wolf wizz. You could try this old trick I have used on all my garden plants with results. Get a couple dozen habanaro peppers and boil them in water. After it boils for a few minutes drain off the water and put it in a garden sprayer. Spray the branches with that. Make sure you boil it OUTSIDE....the fumes will kill you  Hopefully you don't have a pond nearby for them to retreat to. Put that shit in a squirt gun!

[70charger_boy]

  That is the first time I have seen you laugh, Bull 

I laugh at you all the time.

Ha Ha chuckle chuckle ha ha.  Maybe, I should've said that a .45 would be good at shooting a Bull

[bull]

Top one is a ruger M77 and im lost on the bottom one 

It's just a good-old 30-06 Springfield.

Best caliber ever created 

No-nonsense rifle of choice when I used to do a lot of elk hunting. They've kind of fallen out of favor in the past decade or so I think because people have gotten bored with them and didn't have anything to talk about so they started buying 300 mags and 7mms, etc. But I see no reason to "upgrade" since it does the job so well. When my dad died I inherited his 30-06 pump so now I have two. My dad bought the pump because he was a lefty and couldn't find a left-handed gun. I've yet to shoot that one.

[bull]

  That is the first time I have seen you laugh, Bull 

I laugh at you all the time.

Ha Ha chuckle chuckle ha ha.  Maybe, I should've said that a .45 would be good at shooting a Bull

Now, now. No need to get ornery.

[The70RT]

Looks like you gave him a dose of his own medicine... .........you guys crack me up getting these pics on here so quick 

[70charger_boy]

Looks like you gave him a dose of his own medicine... .........you guys crack me up getting these pics on here so quick 

Rule number one on being a postwhore.  Always, have 3 webpages open.  1 of them is photobucket and 2 for dc.com (you need 2 in case you need to search in the middle of a post)

[mally69]

Looks like you gave him a dose of his own medicine... .........you guys crack me up getting these pics on here so quick 

Rule number one on being a postwhore.  Always, have 3 webpages open.  1 of them is photobucket and 2 for dc.com (you need 2 in case you need to search in the middle of a post)

lok at that guy ,,what a fruit   

[Charger_Fan]

A big fruit in the middle of all those veggies.

Ok, so I'm not really up on my Moose deterents here, buttt...would putting up a tall fence keep them out?
The Wolf whiz idea sounds bestest so far.

[chargerboy69]

Call Ted Nugent. He will get rid of it for you. 

[my73charger]

My sister thought it would be a good idea to get rid of a pesty bear by leaving a bag full of commodity prunes in the garbage but the dang thing went and crapped all over the neighbors front porch! 

[mikepmcs]

My sister thought it would be a good idea to get rid of a pesty bear by leaving a bag full of commodity prunes in the garbage but the dang thing went and crapped all over the neighbors front porch! 

I laughed out loud at that one.

[mikepmcs]

Call Ted Nugent. He will get rid of it for you. 

although a little nutty, I'm a Ted fan.
Me and my buddy Robbie would do the same for probably a lot less money.  He can shoot a quarter through the middle at about 100 yards. Killed his moose this year one shot, my other buddy shot his 9(nine) times...reminded me of me, myself, and irene(the cow scene).  Course Ted would make a show out of it, cause, well, he's Ted Nugent.


My buddy Rob wants to see pics of this record Moose please. Not being a smarta$$, we would just like to see a huge moose.

v/r
Mike

[my73charger]

Yeah call Uncle Ted.  Maybe he can work it into his show and you can give him a ride in the Charger on the same episode.  That would be cool.  Moose hunting and Charger cruising!

[PocketThunder]

Call Ted Nugent. He will get rid of it for you. 

although a little nutty, I'm a Ted fan.
Me and my buddy Robbie would do the same for probably a lot less money.  He can shoot a quarter through the middle at about 100 yards. Killed his moose this year one shot, my other buddy shot his 9(nine) times...reminded me of me, myself, and irene(the cow scene).  Course Ted would make a show out of it, cause, well, he's Ted Nugent.


My buddy Rob wants to see pics of this record Moose please. Not being a smarta$$, we would just like to see a huge moose.

v/r
Mike

I think what the author means is that the total weight of all the moose (mother and calves) would probably total 2500 lbs.  not one single moose weighing 2500 lbs by itself.   

[Mefirst]

You could try the ultimate Manhood/Testosterone level test... -Sneak slowly and covert up to the moose when its munching away on your apple tree, then pat it on its rump, when it turns around to take a look, place a lightning fast Ninja roundkick in its forehead and yell -Aprillfool Moth...f..er!!!



...after that it might be a good idea to run....

/Tom

[my73charger]

Call Ted Nugent. He will get rid of it for you. 

although a little nutty, I'm a Ted fan.
Me and my buddy Robbie would do the same for probably a lot less money.  He can shoot a quarter through the middle at about 100 yards. Killed his moose this year one shot, my other buddy shot his 9(nine) times...reminded me of me, myself, and irene(the cow scene).  Course Ted would make a show out of it, cause, well, he's Ted Nugent.


My buddy Rob wants to see pics of this record Moose please. Not being a smarta$$, we would just like to see a huge moose.

v/r
Mike

I think what the author means is that the total weight of all the moose (mother and calves) would probably total 2500 lbs.  not one single moose weighing 2500 lbs by itself.   

True cause thats a big ass moose!

[PocketThunder]

You could try the ultimate Manhood/Testosterone level test... -Sneak slowly and covert up to the moose when its munching away on your apple tree, then pat it on its rump, when it turns around to take a look, place a lightning fast Ninja roundkick in its forehead and yell -Aprillfool Moth...f..er!!!



...after that it might be a good idea to run....

/Tom

               But you have to wait till April otherwise it wont work 

[my73charger]

Yeah and don't slip on that round kick either.  That would be bad, very bad.

[mikepmcs]

I think what the author means is that the total weight of all the moose (mother and calves) would probably total 2500 lbs.  not one single moose weighing 2500 lbs by itself.   

My bad PT, that went over my head.


Tom, that was funny. You better run real fast though cause they will catch you.

[Mefirst]

You could try the ultimate Manhood/Testosterone level test... -Sneak slowly and covert up to the moose when its munching away on your apple tree, then pat it on its rump, when it turns around to take a look, place a lightning fast Ninja roundkick in its forehead and yell -Aprillfool Moth...f..er!!!



...after that it might be a good idea to run....

/Tom

But you have to wait till April otherwise it wont work

-Hmm I see your point and your right, Aprill 1st is to far away... Then again if the apple tree can hold its own a little longer, he (the Ninja) could wait a little over a month and a half, then he could yell -Merry Christmas Mothrrrr...F..errr

[RECHRGD]

All great ideas guys!   I don't know about the ninga thing though.  I'm, almost 60 and don't run too fast anymore.  They have not returned yet today.  Those BB pellets must have really scared them huh.  Anyway, I'm carrying the 357mag pistol with me when away from the house now.  She may look at me as more of a threat now than before the BB assault.  I know the 357 is not a preferred moose exterminator, but it sure should give her a good headache at close range if the need arose.   Bob

[70charger_boy]

  @ Good headache

[2Gunz]

How about making a trap.


Like stick a sprinkler in the trees and turn it on when they try to eat.

Might scared the hell out of them.

Plus you dont have to get close to them to do it.

Or maybe fill the hose with ammonia .... then put it back on the facet, and wait for them to eat and turn it on.

[mopar-or-no-car]

Seriously, you need some wolf wizz.  

Scares the bejeebus out of the moose!

http://www.provenrepellents.com/products.php?pid=77715025

This definately might work!! I have a squirrel problem and someone in a nursery told me to use fox urine to keep them out of my yard! apparently you use the urine of an animals enemy and like Guns N Rotars said "it scares the bejeebus out of them" !!! and at $56.00 not too expensive a try!!
oh and BTW thanks G n R for that link haven't been able to find fox urine anywhere and it is on that link you provided!!   

[RECHRGD]

How about making a trap.


Like stick a sprinkler in the trees and turn it on when they try to eat.

Might scared the hell out of them.

Plus you dont have to get close to them to do it.

Or maybe fill the hose with ammonia .... then put it back on the facet, and wait for them to eat and turn it on.

Actually. they returned a few minutes ago and we turned on the orchard sprinklers.  That seemed to scare them off for the moment.  The mother now seems to take off after a few shots from the BB gun.  I'm sure we have a bull calve though, (it's almost as big as Mom) it just sits there and laughs at us when pelting it with BB'd and pellets.  I think
i'll go piss on the trees (better have another scotch) once I'm sure they're gone for the night.  I'm sure that will scare the hell out of them.    Bob

[70charger_boy]

How much do you think this BFFM weighs?

[mally69]

well if you cant run fast enough to get away  then just jump in the charger im sure you can out run the thing then

[71_deputy]

SOUNDS LIKE A FUN ONE.

This is what I would do!!! ( I have this stuff as I'm in the alarm indusrty)

one 12 volt car battery- all nice and charged up!
one set of car horns or even better- air horns
one 12 volt 30 amp relay- bosch type
one remote wireless receiver
one remote to turn it on!!!!

go figure what happens when you push the remote!!!!!!!

[my73charger]

How about making a trap.


Like stick a sprinkler in the trees and turn it on when they try to eat.

Might scared the hell out of them.

Plus you dont have to get close to them to do it.

Or maybe fill the hose with ammonia .... then put it back on the facet, and wait for them to eat and turn it on.

Actually. they returned a few minutes ago and we turned on the orchard sprinklers.  That seemed to scare them off for the moment.  The mother now seems to take off after a few shots from the BB gun.  I'm sure we have a bull calve though, (it's almost as big as Mom) it just sits there and laughs at us when pelting it with BB'd and pellets.  I think
i'll go piss on the trees (better have another scotch) once I'm sure they're gone for the night.  I'm sure that will scare the hell out of them.    Bob

  Better make that a Tequila...  Seriously I bet the wolf urine would work but I kinda like the airhorn idea for fun measure.

[mally69]

Run an extension cord out to the tree and spilit the ends( separate ground from the hot wire, get some chicken wire on the ground under the tree and hook the ground wire to the chiken wire , now loop the hot wire up in the tree so its just hanging there drill a hole through an apple and rap the hot wire through that hole and around the apple and plug it in then wait. When that big beast bites that apple youll will light that thing right up and  he wont come back after any more apples from that tree. There will be moose hair just glowing for a few seconds

[1BAD68]

just call Chuck, problem solved.

[The70RT]

Have 70Chargerboy post up some of his Richard Simmons pics to hang in the tree's         

[RECHRGD]

Run an extension cord out to the tree and spilit the ends( separate ground from the hot wire, get some chicken wire on the ground under the tree and hook the ground wire to the chiken wire , now loop the hot wire up in the tree so its just hanging there drill a hole through an apple and rap the hot wire through that hole and around the apple and plug it in then wait. When that big beast bites that apple youll will light that thing right up and he wont come back after any more apples from that tree. There will be moose hair just glowing for a few seconds

I assume that would be fed from a non-GFI protected source.

just call Chuck, problem solved.

Do you have Chuck's number?

Anyway, they came back two times overnight.  The orchard is right next to the house so the motion sensors turn on the lights when they arrive.  On their last visit, they took off running for the first time when I started pelting them with BBs in rapid succession.  Maybe they're starting to get the hint.  I do stay right on the front portch, by the open door, in case they decide to turn on me.  We're going into town shortly and will look in a farm and feed store for deterants.  I doubt if they carry "Wolf Wizz" but it's worth a try.  I may just have to order it on line.  BTW, they're not eating the apples, (already harvested) they're actually ripping the branches right off the trees and eating them.  These are miniature trees and the damage is getting really bad.   Bob

[The70RT]

Run an extension cord out to the tree and spilit the ends( separate ground from the hot wire, get some chicken wire on the ground under the tree and hook the ground wire to the chiken wire , now loop the hot wire up in the tree so its just hanging there drill a hole through an apple and rap the hot wire through that hole and around the apple and plug it in then wait. When that big beast bites that apple youll will light that thing right up and he wont come back after any more apples from that tree. There will be moose hair just glowing for a few seconds

I assume that would be fed from a non-GFI protected source.

just call Chuck, problem solved.

Do you have Chuck's number?

Anyway, they came back two times overnight.  The orchard is right next to the house so the motion sensors turn on the lights when they arrive.  On their last visit, they took off running for the first time when I started pelting them with BBs in rapid succession.  Maybe they're starting to get the hint.  I do stay right on the front portch, by the open door, in case they decide to turn on me.  We're going into town shortly and will look in a farm and feed store for deterants.  I doubt if they carry "Wolf Wizz" but it's worth a try.  I may just have to order it on line.  BTW, they're not eating the apples, (already harvested) they're actually ripping the branches right off the trees and eating them.  These are miniature trees and the damage is getting really bad.   Bob

Sounds like you need some dogs....or do you? Then again the dogs may get scared?

[RECHRGD]

Run an extension cord out to the tree and spilit the ends( separate ground from the hot wire, get some chicken wire on the ground under the tree and hook the ground wire to the chiken wire , now loop the hot wire up in the tree so its just hanging there drill a hole through an apple and rap the hot wire through that hole and around the apple and plug it in then wait. When that big beast bites that apple youll will light that thing right up and he wont come back after any more apples from that tree. There will be moose hair just glowing for a few seconds

I assume that would be fed from a non-GFI protected source.

just call Chuck, problem solved.

Do you have Chuck's number?

Anyway, they came back two times overnight.  The orchard is right next to the house so the motion sensors turn on the lights when they arrive.  On their last visit, they took off running for the first time when I started pelting them with BBs in rapid succession.  Maybe they're starting to get the hint.  I do stay right on the front portch, by the open door, in case they decide to turn on me.  We're going into town shortly and will look in a farm and feed store for deterants.  I doubt if they carry "Wolf Wizz" but it's worth a try.  I may just have to order it on line.  BTW, they're not eating the apples, (already harvested) they're actually ripping the branches right off the trees and eating them.  These are miniature trees and the damage is getting really bad.   Bob

Sounds like you need some dogs....or do you? Then again the dogs may get scared?

Do you think he'd scare them off ?

[NYCMille]

I can safely say this is one problem I don't think will ever materialize in Queens, NY.

[RECHRGD]

I can safely say this is one problem I don't think will ever materialize in Queens, NY.

You never know!!!  The more you keep driving Mr. Angry around, the hotter the New York climate will become (buy Al Gores new book) and it may become an attractive area for new species to inhabit.  Oh but wait, moose like colder climates.  Possibly the dinosaurs may reappear.  And you think I've got problems!!

[67vertman]

Check on line and see if anyone in your area raises wolfs.  Ask them if they have any wolf hair.  That would last longer than wolf wiz and you could probably get it for free.

[mopar-or-no-car]

OMG you guys are SO creative!! car batteries, charged chicken wire, spot lights!! that poor moose doesn't have a chance!! WOW BUt I like the wolf wizz the best and I really think it will work!! especially if fox wizz will scare squirrels why won't wolf wizz scare a moose! AND I think it is the easiest too!!   

[69bronzeT5]

My sister thought it would be a good idea to get rid of a pesty bear by leaving a bag full of commodity prunes in the garbage but the dang thing went and crapped all over the neighbors front porch! 

I laughed out loud at that one.

I DID TOO! IM STILL LAUGHING AS I TYPE THIS!!!

[Daytona R/T SE]

Oh Wait ! I Get it ! It's A FRUIT SALAD !!!!!

[Alaskan_TA]

Moose can, and will kill you. Especially a cow moose with young to protect.

Video at;

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/150742/moose/

Do not provoke them. If you value your orchard more than seeing them enjoy it, fence it off in a way that keeps them out. 

Barry

[70charger_boy]

Moose can, and will kill you. Especially a cow moose with young to protect.

Video at;

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/150742/moose/

Do not provoke them. If you value your orchard more than seeing them enjoy it, fence it off in a way that keeps them out. 

Barry

wow!!  Look at this
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/891663/healing_hamstrings/