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Started by OneofNoneRT, October 12, 2007, 10:28:40 PM

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69_500

I had 2 origional copies of that, and I sold one to moparjohn, and I think that my other copy of it is laying around here somewhere. Very interesting stuff in that bulliten though.

Alaskan_TA

Those will be replaced soon with better quality scans. Most of the other 1969 Dodge TSBs will be available at the same time thanks to Hemigeno.  ;)

OneofNoneRT

Thanks Alaskan..That is very interesting reading.. Mine is identical except the manual crank assembly.. Still confused on how it came to be.. I know the guy I bought it from didnt do it and he had it a few years.. maybe someone worked at ASC had the car??  I use to have the original warranty card ..I have begun searching for it..I put it in a safe place?? Anyway. I think he lived in Troy Mich.. If I can find that again about the 68 dart I will post a link.. It had no pictures it was an article..
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

Alaskan_TA

Adding a sunroof from a later model is fairly easy. I did it myself once and I may do it again. At some point someone added a newer sunroof to the car, it happened.

Still very cool and part of the car's history. I would deffinately leave it if I were you.  :cheers:

Barry

hemigeno

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on October 13, 2007, 08:23:57 PM
Those will be replaced soon with better quality scans. Most of the other 1969 Dodge TSBs will be available at the same time thanks to Hemigeno.  ;)

:cheers:    Always glad to help out...

Along a related note, did the hi-res scans of the Rinshed-Mason TSB come through OK?  Hopefully that leaves only 1 "missing" TSB from the binder that we know of.

OneofNone, I took maybe a dozen pictures of an original sunroof frame from a '69 Charger (with no headliner installed) about two weeks ago.  If you'd like I can post them - perhaps they would be helpful for comparision?


Daytona R/T SE

Here's a pic of the sunroof frame I installed in my Daytona clone.  It's an original from a 1970 Dodge Charger...

Magnumcharger

1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

OneofNoneRT

That would be great.. i would appreciate any info.. :yesnod: Thanks..
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

OneofNoneRT

As far as removin it if It was determined that it wasnt factory.. That would be crazy ..I will just get with "UFO" and get me one of them special cop fender tags..Right.. :lol:
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

DodgeChargerNeeded

Who cares what anybody says about your car. I think it is very cool with a sunroof even if it isn't factory. If you like it thats all that counts. Screw the numbers guys, no offense to anyone here.
Jeff

Charger_Fan

Here's some '70 sunroof info on the Registry that may be interesting; http://1970chargerregistry.com/Sunroof/Sunroof.html

Wouldn't it be cool if it was specially made for some big-whig back in '68? Sorta like the couple convertible K-cars Iacocca had made in '81-'82 before they made production convertibles? :scratchchin:
Sure would be cool to get to the bottom of this story, regardless of whether or not it's a Ma Mopar job or not. Cool car!! :cheers:

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

OneofNoneRT

Has anyone here with a sunroof tried contacting ASC to see if they kept any records??.. You would think from a liability aspect they would have kept records at least for a few years..
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

tan top

Quote from: OneofNoneRT on October 15, 2007, 06:50:15 AM
Has anyone here with a sunroof tried contacting ASC to see if they kept any records??.. You would think from a liability aspect they would have kept records at least for a few years..

  thats a good idea :yesnod: ..................... :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

1972Rallye

Quote from: OneofNoneRT on October 15, 2007, 06:50:15 AM
Has anyone here with a sunroof tried contacting ASC to see if they kept any records??.. You would think from a liability aspect they would have kept records at least for a few years..

ASC (America Sunroof) has changed a bit the last few years with the death of its founder and subsiquent purchase.  ASC now stands for American Specialty Cars.  They are still based in Southgate, MI.  I worked there for a couple months many, many years ago.  It is very possible an employee had the sunroof installed, but you would never be able to find proof of it unless you find the original owner. Here is the number I found... (734) 285-4911... You never know...?

OneofNoneRT

Thanks..Rallye..I contacted the number.. I have been talking with a variety of people there.. They are trying but no luck yet. As soon as they find out what I got they say " you should talk to..."   If anyone is looking for sunroof parts .. They said to contact Kellys sunroof @ # 888-298-8140..If I find out anything useful I will post for all..
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

Magnumcharger

Hi,
I was out to a couple of junkyards over the past weekend and took the measurements off of two vehicles that were equipped with factory installed sunroofs, both manually operated.

The first was a Hang Ten Dart: 20" x 35.5"
The second was a "Cordoba" Charger SE: 20" x 41"

I'm wondering what size the sunroof is in your Charger?
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

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1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

OneofNoneRT

 Mine is 19.5 X 39.25 interesting is it is 8.75 from the front windshield..farther forward then any electric..
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

Magnumcharger

19.5 X 39.25....very interesting!
I wonder how that compares in size to an electric sunroof of the 68-70 vintage?
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Alaskan_TA

The 1973 up B-Body crank sunroof cassettes are 20 X 39.75

Since this one does not match any known Mopar sunroof sizes, it could be one of the ones ASC made for for Mercury or another brand maybe?

Any Ford guys here with a sunroof?

Does anyone have the measurements for the Volkswagen Bug sunroof while we are at it? I would think that they were the smallest of all.

Magnumcharger

Barry, you might be correct with your assumption about the Volkswagen Beetle having the smallest sunroof of all.
But, I'm sure the convex design of the VW's exterior roof panel would preclude it's potential future usage as a donor for most, if not all designs of Mopars.
:2thumbs:
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

suntech

Hi all! does anybody have the measurment of the original size of the 68-70 sunroof??
Would be cool if i cold find a car with similar size and curvature, to integreate in my 68 :drool5:
Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

Magnumcharger

Quote from: suntech on October 29, 2007, 05:34:37 AM
Hi all! does anybody have the measurment of the original size of the 68-70 sunroof??
Would be cool if i cold find a car with similar size and curvature, to integreate in my 68 :drool5:

Funny how you should ask this....seeing as how I've been asking this exact same question over and over again.......
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

chargerman68

looks good cant wait to see it with fresh paint on it :cheers:
1968 CHARGER R/T CLONELOOKING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT 69-70 CHARGER SHELL

1FastCharger

Quote from: Magnumcharger on October 29, 2007, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: suntech on October 29, 2007, 05:34:37 AM
Hi all! does anybody have the measurment of the original size of the 68-70 sunroof??
Would be cool if i cold find a car with similar size and curvature, to integreate in my 68 :drool5:

Funny how you should ask this....seeing as how I've been asking this exact same question over and over again.......

The Secret Sunroof Society will not divulge that information. They must maintain the limited number of sunroof cars.  :nana:

J/K- Someone will eventually let you in on the secret.
66 A100 - 68 Charger - 69 Charger