real 69 daytona project for sale

[BigBlockSam]

this car looks familiar

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MoPar-1969-Dodge-Daytona-XX29L9B_W0QQitemZ150167746998QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150167746998

[69bronzeT5]

Yup, deffintley firmilar. For a Buy it now price of 130k!!!!!!

[70charger_boy]

THAT GUY IS SMOKING CRACK!!!!!!!

[69bronzeT5]

THAT GUY IS SMOKING CRACK!!!!!!!

[BigBlockSam]

me too 

[tan top]

 hi guys just saw this on ebay  , think it is the flood damaged one , still can't do a link to ebay sorry       

[nascarxx29]

I know that car and its owner

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-MoPar-1969-Dodge-Daytona-XX29L9B_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6199QQihZ005QQitemZ150167746998QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[hemi68charger]

Guys,,, think I oughta ask?   

[hemi68charger]

Isn't that the one that had flipped or got some roof damage?

[hemi68charger]

hi guys just saw this on ebay  , think it is the flood damaged one , still can't do a link to ebay sorry       

Can't you double click the web URL from your browser and then paste it into the "Insert Hyperlink" function here on the "Post reply" page?

[moparstuart]

  go for it troy but dont give 130k

[hemi68charger]

  go for it troy but dont give 130k

     . after looking at the roof line more in the front, it looks like it's been crushed slightly.......... I'm not one for another major project being that I have the '68 so close.., But, who knows......................  Maybe Dave can chime in since he knows the car.................   

But, as they say, "nothing ventured nothing gained" .......... Man, I'm getting tired of that saying. lol

I like the saying, "I have a Dodge in my garage, a Dodge Daytona that is... "

[Old Moparz]

If that is the same one with the kink in the roof, I find it very funny that it says "damage isn't structural" in the ebay ad. I've seen it in person & there wasn't a straight panel on that car.   

Here's the pics from the Carlisle thread.

[Old Moparz]

Here's the pics from the ebay ad.

All 3 of them.

Teeny-Tiny ones.

For a 6 figure car.

[BigBlockSam]

yep thats the same car

[moparstuart]

  he did do some work to it 

[hemi68charger]

  he did do some work to it 

Does look like that................

[41husk]

He diddn't do enough work to make it worth $130,000

[hemi68charger]

He diddn't do enough work to make it worth $130,000

Well,, no......... Albeit, it's my favorite color.....

[BigBlockSam]

i would straighten out the roof get good windows in there and get it running . then i would drive it just like that 

[hemi68charger]

i would straighten out the roof get good windows in there and get it running . then i would drive it just like that 

OK Joe..............   

[moparstuart]

  that joe dirtay to you

[chargerman68]

damn i hate when ebay seller try to fool someone y cant they just explain the car and let the people decide for them selves

[hemigeno]

Hey, but the auction makes reference to the many websites/forums where this car has been discussed...   

Pretty sad when a buyer is required to go fishing around for good pictures of the car, which are universally contained within threads ripping the car's condition to shreds.

[moparstuart]

 Man why would you send prospective buyers here where we tear the car apart. Not great salesmanship there??
   great point there geno

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

i would straighten out the roof get good windows in there and get it running . then i would drive it just like that

you actually read my mind there rene

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

  that joe dirtay to you

"Dont church it up boy....."

Looks like he lowered the price 10k from Carlisle as well....that thing was a sad sight to see in person

In storage since '73 huh?

[BigBlockSam]

 

[Magnumcharger]

  that joe dirtay to you

"Dont church it up boy....."

I think the quote is "don't french it up DIRT!"

[Magnumcharger]

Guys,,, think I oughta ask?   

Yes...you should.
Then when you restore it, you could call it: "THE WORLD FAMOUS FLOOD DAYTONA".
And get lots of street cred on Moparts.

[hemigeno]

you could call it: "THE WORLD FAMOUS FLOOD DAYTONA".

This car was never in a flood, though.  The wringer, yes - flood, no...   

Ask away, Troy!!!

[BigBlockSam]

Then when you restore it, you could call it 

i paid to much for a money pit and i had to re mortgage my house to restore it . 

[MavericK]

Hi,  new here, but it must have had a pretty rough life between '69-'73.   

[BigBlockSam]

  howdy MavericK  and welcome

[hemi68charger]

Hi,  new here, but it must have had a pretty rough life between '69-'73.   

Guys, isn't this the same car?

Troy

[Moparmatty]

Can't be too structurally bad.  The doors open and close as new.  I think it looks worse than it actually is.

[hemi68charger]

you could call it: "THE WORLD FAMOUS FLOOD DAYTONA".

This car was never in a flood, though.  The wringer, yes - flood, no...   

Ask away, Troy!!!

Did and nope.................  Still looks like I'll be giving up two for the one............

[hemigeno]

Guys, isn't this the same car?

Troy

No, that is not the same car.  I'll look up the thread after while where we discussed that possibility.  David Patik used to own the car on eBay, which NEVER spent time in Oklahoma (it was originally a PA car).  I think way-back-when some people jumped to the conclusion that this was the flood car because of the roof damage, etc.  That's how urban legends get started...

[nascarxx29]

It traces back to Ernie P and whos name it was under in the old records.Who I talked to at carlisle.Car sold in PA he sold it to Dave Patik.And Galen ran a ad a while back in MGC for a few daytonas of Daves for 14K .Would have got you one of the 4 for sale I recall.This is how Tom in NY got his hands on it .So this car as Hemi Geno says for this reason and more in the picture details of the 2 cars.That this car was not in Kansas.Even though both have roof damage

[hemi68charger]

It's amazing to see how two different cars with similar color can have two different llives yet have similar damage.........

[moparstuart]

  that front fender looks exactly the same damage  but like gene ( i think) stated in another thread it has an 8 3/4 housing not a dana like the  ebay car.

[hemi68charger]

Guys, isn't this the same car?

Troy

No, that is not the same car.  I'll look up the thread after while where we discussed that possibility.  David Patik used to own the car on eBay, which NEVER spent time in Oklahoma (it was originally a PA car).  I think way-back-when some people jumped to the conclusion that this was the flood car because of the roof damage, etc.  That's how urban legends get started...

Ahhh. I see..  Thanks Geno............ I think I have some pictures of that car, close ups of the rusty front fenders.......... Either that or I have pictures of another rusty F6 Daytona.........

[hemi68charger]

  that front fender looks exactly the same damage  but like gene ( i think) stated in another thread it has an 8 3/4 housing not a dana like the  ebay car.

Excellent observation...........

[hemigeno]

Here are two threads where we discussed the connection (or more importantly, the lack thereof) between Tom's car and the photo from the Oklahoma flood:

69 daytona $145.000 seen @ Carlisle origins

Wrecked Daytona

[hemi68charger]

Here are two threads where we discussed the connection (or more importantly, the lack thereof) between Tom's car and the photo from the Oklahoma flood:

69 daytona $145.000 seen @ Carlisle origins

Wrecked Daytona

Thanks Geno........... I need to start remembering better....... Funny, my wife tells me that as well............... 

[tan top]

hi guys just saw this on ebay  , think it is the flood damaged one , still can't do a link to ebay sorry       

Can't you double click the web URL from your browser and then paste it into the "Insert Hyperlink" function here on the "Post reply" page?

                   sorry to hyjack the thread guys  , thanks for the help Troy , but i do not know that much about computers , even if i type it out it does not work , like other wab site addresses  will figure it out   

[69_500]

So he said that you would have to trade both the HEMI car and Dana for that Daytona? Ah come on Troy its an easy HLPAG restoration isn't it? Father son project?

I'd swap my C500 for it in a heartbeat though.

[hemi68charger]

So he said that you would have to trade both the HEMI car and Dana for that Daytona? Ah come on Troy its an easy HLPAG restoration isn't it? Father son project?

I'd swap my C500 for it in a heartbeat though.

Nope. He wants Dana and cash.. I'd have to sell the '68.. If I got a nice penny for it, the money left over I would try and find a nice-done Mopar like a Road Runner or XP Charger... If I make a good-penny, maybe another R/T to go with the Daytona and I would still have three Mopes.....

Troy

[69_500]

Dana and cash? Hmmmm, I don't know if I could resist that if he would take my C500 and cash for a Daytona. I know I'd do it, then again my wife would throw a fit, but I'd have what I want.

[hemi68charger]

Dana and cash? Hmmmm, I don't know if I could resist that if he would take my C500 and cash for a Daytona. I know I'd do it, then again my wife would throw a fit, but I'd have what I want.

The amount of cash would dictate I sell the '68.. Don't have enough disposable cash laying around to keep the '68....

[pettybird]

the car really isn't that bad.  really.

i feel bad for it--as doug S said earlier he may just be fishing, but think of what a couple spray cans of paint would do for the auction, or primer the front clip, install the doors, and see if you can get it to fire up.  the car needs no more than any rusty quartered car would to get going, and it has everything there!  it may not be cake, but it's wonder bread, at least.

[70charger_boy]

the car really isn't that bad.  really.

i feel bad for it--as doug S said earlier he may just be fishing, but think of what a couple spray cans of paint would do for the auction, or primer the front clip, install the doors, and see if you can get it to fire up.  the car needs no more than any rusty quartered car would to get going, and it has everything there!  it may not be cake, but it's wonder bread, at least.

  that car is so bad, the guys from Pimp my ride won't touch it 

[69_500]

I agree Doug. Its not that bad.  Which is why I said that if they would take my C500 and cash I'd jump on it. I guess that all depends on how much cash they are wanting plus the car though.

[nillle]

Love the Q&A section though 

[70charger_boy]

Love the Q&A section though 

Yeah, the seller has a real Van Goh on his hands

[69_500]

Well not sure if he has a Van Goh on his hands or not, but what I know that he does have is a REAL Daytona. Which is more than I can say.

[Mopurr]

So....

This is the F6 car that was in Iowa about 10yrs ago.

We almost went for it then Galen said there was no title, then called back said there was but to late in the day for money from the bank to go.

But also implied that someone else would be there to look and the most money took it home, Brent was not going to Iowa to get in a bidding war.

In the long run it all worked out so much better for us and we had a much nicer car to restore.

[nascarxx29]

Dont know if this superbird is still available there asking $57K

http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/files/110000/110405.html

[hemi68charger]

Dont know if this superbird is still available there asking $57K

http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/files/110000/110405.html

Ouch !!!!  I remember that thing........

[moparstuart]

  it would be a shame for that car to disapear completely, but if anyone put it back together it would only be a rebody

[70charger_boy]

  it would be a shame for that car to disapear completely, but if anyone put it back together it would only be a rebody

  I'm afraid that car will go the rebody route

[69bronzeT5]

It's amazing to see how two different cars with similar color can have two different llives yet have similar damage.........

[pettybird]

Dont know if this superbird is still available there asking $57K

http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/files/110000/110405.html

ok our daytona is mint.  wow.

[GeneralLeeTESH]

Just saw the auction end. I'll trade DUKTONA  FOR IT ! tHAT'S MY FINAL OFFER. tHEY'RE BOTH EQUALLY RODE HARD AND RUSTED AWAY AND SMASHED !!

[nascarxx29]

Not the flood car .That car and vin logs to PA selling dealership and a NJ owner that sold it to Dave P .But followed the auction and know the owner and wish him well with this auction.Heres some of the Q & A pertaining to the car

 


     




Q:  Hello, I was just curious as to what happened to the yellow Daytona used for parts on this Daytona. Oct-09-07
A:   That is great question but I truly do not know. I can tell you that it cost more then my '68 Barracuda Super Stock car. Just for laughs call afew MoPar dealers both locally and nationally and tell them you need an authentic steel Daytona nose. Then find the website of the guy that makes the noses from scratch out of steel and get a price from him. Then email me back and let me know if you still think the price of this car is too much. My guess is that yellow Daytona got friggin' hammered. Take care- Jeff
Q:  Okay, maybe this isn't a question. Ya' know, if I had twice the money, I might consider buyin' it, 'cause I'd certainly sink it into that piece of history. I went to a show about 20 years ago, and saw a couple of those with the original sticker still in the window, 'cause somebody had the foresight to hang onto something like that, and at the time, the cars were worth about 35 - 45 thou, according to the original owners. My how times have changed. With a Hemi cuda convertible recently goin' for 2-point-something million, I don't guess your askin' price is all that unreasonable... people often trash what they can't have. I hope you get what you want for it, but I really wish you could afford to keep it, and give it the attention it deserves. Unless of course, you wanted to give it to me........ Oct-09-07
A:   Thanks. True story: there is a gravestone near where my Father is buried that is carved in the shape of a wing car. Saw it with my own eyes. I wonder what he would have sold his for; or traded for it? Take care - Jeff
Q:  I love the daytona, but out of my price range. IS the orange car for sale? Looks like a 70 charger. Thanks. Oct-07-07
A:   1970 R/T V code ALL #'s matching 440 six pak 18 spline four speed 4.10 DANA car. I drove it to the Enlishtown MoPar show this May. 1 of 109. EVERYTHING is for sale.....
Q:  Car looks like its worth nothing but seriously, I am curious. Im not big on car history why is it worth this much and why are other cars like it worth so much. Thanks  Oct-06-07
A:   Vincent Van Gogh died destitute and poor and years after his death his paintings that cost nothing in material are treasured and sell for extraordinary money. Why? In 1969 NASCAR (Winston CUP, damn it!) still required that a race car have a dealer sold street legal car to justify it being raced as a STOCK car. Dodge built 503 of these cars and on the track the big ugly nose and wing made it the first car to top 200 mph on a closed course. At the dealership however, no one bought them all too much and some lingered and were eventually purchase by the dealership owners. When the automotive collector market burst in the 80's a hobby slowly grew into a genuine investment market. The steriotyped grease monkey / gear head who prized his original one of few musclecar now had a car that was worth a signifigant amount of money. My friend once sold a 1962 Hess to truck for 1300.00 that cost 11 cents in '62. Why? How come a gallon of milk costs more then a gallon of gas and people only complain about the latter? so I guess everything on earth is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Thank you for the question, - Jeff
Q:  hey dude the car is great.real history and if those shit brain so call car guys new anything they would be praising the car for being all orig and untouched.hope u find a buyer. Oct-06-07
A:   Thanks, there are some Charger and/or wing car sites that have the original news article with the car on its roof on a dry river bed. Have you seen the MoPar Collectors guide with all the damaged cars from hurricane Katrina? Worst that ever happened to me was my 60ft weeping willow tree dropped on two Z-28's and a Malibu drag car. Missed the 'Cudas though so I haven't built a GM since. Take care - Jeff
Q:  I notice alot of retards trying give you comments on a car they know nothing about. I hope you find a buyer who does want it and happy. Hopfully the day dreaming "joe dirt" clan members will go back to complaining about the prices of slant 6 valiants again. Good luck, moparts. Oct-05-07
A:   Two PLEASANT Joe Dirt references in a row, and both from guys with over 250 feedback at 100% +. My faith is replenished. Thanks - Jeff
Q:  Ignore the idiots who know no better. This car is a goldmine of awesomeness. I wish I had the money for it, I'd actually drive it as is ala Joe Dirt and love it. A dreamcar in the rough. Perfect color combo too. Great car, great car, great car. Does it have a back story? I mean 47K on the ticker it must've retired early for some reason. Oct-05-07
A:   Thanks. Briefly: hit in center nose 1972. Car in body shop. Damn breaks. Car and shop swept away in flood. Man with 19 wing cars buy it cause its structurally straight as an arrow and only sheetmetal damaged. My friend Tom buys it through Galen at GTS and then buys REAL nose / wing and stores it for years. If this car was never hit in the nose it would probably be a SURVIVOR class car worth well over a 1/4 mil. We have real (NON EBAY) offer for around double the mileage. Nothing like a week of national advertising for 44.00 bucks. I love this country. My father parachuted out of planes with a M1 Garand on his back and my brother is underwater on an attack sub four months a year so every single expert in America can throw their opinion in my face. (Much love to the 82nd Airborne and the SSN Louisville as well as all our armed forces). You take care and believe me I wish I had the money too. I sat in the car twenty minutes tonight and it was a better time then a twenty minute lap dance at SCORES. Well, maybe thats a lie. Be well
Q:  Are you serious?! This car looks like something my dog threw up after it ate it's own diarrhea. However, I am interested in purchasing it for my masochistic swedish porn, shot outside of Abu Dabi in the United Arab Emerites. I can only offer you pleasure from a midget that just happens to be a two time transvestite (i know, its awesome). I'm also willing to throw in a copy of my award winning dvd, "How many lightbulbs can you fit in there: VI". Let me know. -Van Analhymen  Oct-05-07
A:   You are the coolest person on earth. 
Q:  Isn't this the same car that was at The Mopar nationals that had flipped over upside down in a flood? If so, more info please? Oct-05-07
A:   Email Tom your number. Thanks
Q:  Being serious why would someone pay 130k for a car that needs total restore?? Oct-05-07
A:   I have personally pent 30G's on a 'Cuda that will be worth about 15,000 when its done. And it ain't close to done. I know what restorations cost. I know what John Q. public pays and I know what me and my associates pay. John Q. pays alot more. Lets just say hypothetically that someone buys this car outright. Other then a windshield there will be NO costly searching for parts. There will be no years of searching for missing items. There is no VIN sequence on sheetmetal so the nose for all intents and purposes is correct. So again, hypothetically if this person owns a shop, lets just say in the east coast and there is a light winter this person could keep his guys working on this car. I have spoken to the owner of Auto Rust technicians in the past with reference to repair costs. A shop owner just laying out labor could complete this car for UNDER (way under) 40 G's and have enough cash left to take a month off and go on Hot Rods Power Tour. This car isn't for me, in fact it is not for most. This gas crunch economy will not last. Values will go up, after all, they aren't making any more. If you had a crystal ball in 1986 would you not have purchased at least two of the 547 McLaren Buick Grand Nationals produced? I saw a rat infested hammered original aluminum 289 FIA Cobra go over 80G's way before the Barrett Jackson craze put its mark on the world. I thank you for your question and if the C5 in your user name is for Corvette contact me, my neighbor just had a sick LS engine put in his '02 Z06 and someone creamed him at a stoplight. I you need stuff I think he still has it. Be well and thanks - Jeff
Q:  You can't be serious about this price. A beautiful 70/69 is for sale for one third the price and 100 times the car. Looks like clowns should be driving this Oct-05-07
A:   This car is original to the belts. When you see and original 66 Shelby Cobra for sale for for five hundred grand that needs a resto kindly call the seller a clown and inform him that MINT kit cars sell for 40,000. Why don't you just focus on paying off that 92 Caravan in your driveway. F

[69bronzeT5]

"and if those shit brain so call car guys new anything they would be praising the car for being all orig and untouched"




"Thanks. Briefly: hit in center nose 1972. Car in body shop. Damn breaks. Car and shop swept away in flood."


---That sounds like the flood car to me





Q:  Are you serious?! This car looks like something my dog threw up after it ate it's own diarrhea. However, I am interested in purchasing it for my masochistic swedish porn, shot outside of Abu Dabi in the United Arab Emerites. I can only offer you pleasure from a midget that just happens to be a two time transvestite (i know, its awesome). I'm also willing to throw in a copy of my award winning dvd, "How many lightbulbs can you fit in there: VI". Let me know. -Van Analhymen  Oct-05-07
A:   You are the coolest person on earth. 

[hemigeno]

"Thanks. Briefly: hit in center nose 1972. Car in body shop. Damn breaks. Car and shop swept away in flood."

---That sounds like the flood car to me

I read that answer in the Q&A also - but his statement does not change the facts. 

Have you read the other threads on this subject, where the history of Tom's car is spelled out, as is the fate of the "real" flood car from that picture?     

[nascarxx29]

As we know its not the flood car by the compiled proof.If it was it might have attracted a buyer due to its uniqueness of being that famed celebrity daytona.As the burned daytona from TX that brought $40K on ebay.For years I had people  asking me to find them a affordable wingcar/ daytona.Everybody passed on the rough daytona for $10K from Canada .That Petty bird ended up buying.Adding a celebrity to the equation doesnt hurt .It was good for the 440 Big Willie car that did $250K

[pettybird]

In 1969 NASCAR (Winston CUP, damn it!)


no, NASCAR grand national, damn it!

[moparstuart]

what about nextell  now sprint cup