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I looked at a '70 Roadrunner 4 sale today (29 Pics) + 6 more in UPDATE pg2

Started by TruckDriver, September 29, 2007, 07:15:28 PM

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TruckDriver

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I finally went to look at it as it has been sitting here on the side of the road for most of the summer. The vin says it is a 318 car, but the fender tag says it is a 383 car. Or did I decode something wrong? I never seen a pre-'71 318 Roadrunner before. It has Georgia plates on the back. Floors and the trunk floor, around the rear window, and the quarters are the only rusted areas. But is it worth $4,000? I'm not sure I really am interested at this point, but maybe. Would be a good car to build for street/strip. The frame is solid.

THIS IS THE DOOR VIN# Possably a replacement door.
Has a vin of #RH23G0A142339
R = Plymouth Belvedere/Satellite
H = High
23 = 2 Door Hardtop
G = 318 230HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
0 = 1970
A = Lynch Road, MI, USA
142339 = 42338th Vehicle

DASH VIN#


FENDER TAG BREAKDOWN


PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

Ghoste

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's not a Road Runner, a Runner would be an RM.  An RH is for Satellite.  The fender tag is for a Road Runner but it is also a different vin than the door tag, something is not right on the car.  The dash vin matches but something is funny, I'd pass on it or find out a lot more before laying down my money.  It also has a flat hood and a Road Runner should have the bulged hood in 70.

Silver R/T

definitely going to appreciate in value through years if you buy it and start fixing it up. How much, Im not sure. If you have spare 4K then go ahead and get it.
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1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Charger-Bodie

something funny going on there possibly , i wonder which vin is on the title if it has the roadchicken vin on the title it could be as simple as the door was changed but id check the title and the radiator supt and trunk lip if they all match its prob a rr but i dont know :scratchchin:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

y3chargerrt

I'm confused about the vin numbers you list RH23G0A142339 as the vin. But the data pictures show the vin of a 383 Road Runner. The door sticker shows the Satellie but the pic of the dash vin shows a Road Runner.Something sticks here. Maybe the door was swapped from the Satellie and this is a real Road Runner but you better do more digging.

TruckDriver

I think it is a Runner. I goofed on one code (only did the door tag, not the dash vin), and I put some wrong letters in the fender tag. I tripple checked, and now I got everything right and corrected (look at the first post again). I did it to fast the first time. Sorry about that. I think that door was replaced at one time.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

70charger_boy

Looks like a good project.  I would try to get it for 2,500 bucks.

472 R/T SE

It's got the small rear end in it too.  I don't think I've seen a real RR with that small rear in it.  :scratchchin:

Dash vin rosettes look round too instead of pointed.

lumpy

There are a couple other places to check for the vin #. On the radiator support, on the cowl and on the trunk lip. It looks like a RR to me, check those #'s to be sure  :2thumbs:

69bronzeT5

If I had an extra 4k lying around, Id get it. Today I got word of a 69 Roadrunner Convertable 440 4-spd sitting around here somewhere in blackberry bushes :scope:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

70charger_boy

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on September 29, 2007, 09:33:24 PM
If I had an extra 4k lying around, Id get it. Today I got word of a 69 Roadrunner Convertable 440 4-spd sitting around here somewhere in blackberry bushes :scope:

a 440 4 spd :scratchchin:  I would imagine that would be a trac pac.  I would run, forest run!!!!!!!!!  Go get the car

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on September 29, 2007, 09:33:24 PM
If I had an extra 4k lying around, Id get it. Today I got word of a 69 Roadrunner Convertable 440 4-spd sitting around here somewhere in blackberry bushes :scope:
was it the convertible mod top thats sittin behind the london drug?
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

69bronzeT5

Quote from: 70charger_boy on September 29, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on September 29, 2007, 09:33:24 PM
If I had an extra 4k lying around, Id get it. Today I got word of a 69 Roadrunner Convertable 440 4-spd sitting around here somewhere in blackberry bushes :scope:

a 440 4 spd :scratchchin:  I would imagine that would be a trac pac.  I would run, forest run!!!!!!!!!  Go get the car


Well my dad's friend found it. He knows exactly what it is because he used to own one. I'll have to find out the street from my dad. And no, its not behind London Drugs...we dont have one in my town lol
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on September 29, 2007, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: 70charger_boy on September 29, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on September 29, 2007, 09:33:24 PM
If I had an extra 4k lying around, Id get it. Today I got word of a 69 Roadrunner Convertable 440 4-spd sitting around here somewhere in blackberry bushes :scope:

a 440 4 spd :scratchchin:  I would imagine that would be a trac pac.  I would run, forest run!!!!!!!!!  Go get the car


Well my dad's friend found it. He knows exactly what it is because he used to own one. I'll have to find out the street from my dad. And no, its not behind London Drugs...we dont have one in my town lol
what about the mod top does it have a mod top? i think a mod top vert would be rare!
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

TruckDriver

Quote from: lumpy on September 29, 2007, 09:18:16 PM
There are a couple other places to check for the vin #. On the radiator support, on the cowl and on the trunk lip. It looks like a RR to me, check those #'s to be sure  :2thumbs:

I don't know these cars like a Charger. Where exactly on the cowl & radiator support should I look? I'm going back to my girlfriends tomarrow morning, and I'll get some pics (if I remember the camera)
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

69bronzeT5

Quote from: 1hot68 on September 29, 2007, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on September 29, 2007, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: 70charger_boy on September 29, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on September 29, 2007, 09:33:24 PM
If I had an extra 4k lying around, Id get it. Today I got word of a 69 Roadrunner Convertable 440 4-spd sitting around here somewhere in blackberry bushes :scope:

a 440 4 spd :scratchchin:  I would imagine that would be a trac pac.  I would run, forest run!!!!!!!!!  Go get the car


Well my dad's friend found it. He knows exactly what it is because he used to own one. I'll have to find out the street from my dad. And no, its not behind London Drugs...we dont have one in my town lol
what about the mod top does it have a mod top? i think a mod top vert would be rare!

dont know, havent seen the car  :icon_smile_big:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

charge69

Why does that car have a 318-2bbl engine if it is a Roadrunner? The engine looks original to the car. I do not think that is a RR!  No Sale, at least to me!

TruckDriver

Quote from: charge69 on September 29, 2007, 10:05:30 PM
Why does that car have a 318-2bbl engine if it is a Roadrunner? The engine looks original to the car. I do not think that is a RR!  No Sale, at least to me!

Blue is not the correct color on 1970s engines. That wasn't changed til '72.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

BigBlackDodge

Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on September 29, 2007, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: lumpy on September 29, 2007, 09:18:16 PM
There are a couple other places to check for the vin #. On the radiator support, on the cowl and on the trunk lip. It looks like a RR to me, check those #'s to be sure  :2thumbs:

I don't know these cars like a Charger. Where exactly on the cowl & radiator support should I look? I'm going back to my girlfriends tomarrow morning, and I'll get some pics (if I remember the camera)

Look on the radiator core support (near the top on the vertical surface..........it will only have six digits stamped into it, they should match the VIN digits if correct) and under the trunk seal on the drivers side. Not aware of any numbers on the cowl for B-bodies.


BBD

472 R/T SE

Quote from: charge69 on September 29, 2007, 10:05:30 PM
Why does that car have a 318-2bbl engine if it is a Roadrunner? The engine looks original to the car. I do not think that is a RR!  No Sale, at least to me!

Same reason it has a 8.25 rear.  ;)




Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on September 29, 2007, 10:08:53 PM
Quote from: charge69 on September 29, 2007, 10:05:30 PM
Why does that car have a 318-2bbl engine if it is a Roadrunner? The engine looks original to the car. I do not think that is a RR!  No Sale, at least to me!

Blue is not the correct color on 1970s engines. That wasn't changed til '72.

So tell me, what color is?   :icon_smile_wink:


lumpy

My '71RR had the #'s on the cowl and the rad support. If they match the vin and the fender tag, it is probaly a RR with a Satellite door. No smallblock RR's in '70. Only 383, 440-6 and Hemis. A '69 RR 'Vert  would not have a 440 from the factory either, 440's came in GTX.

Ghoste

The hood has been changed as well. (if it's a Road Runner)
As someone else mentioned, better make sure what vin is on the title before buying no matter which of the two vins you determine to be real to the car.

tecmopar

Somethings really not right with that car. The heck with the door vin, it means nothing, the dash vin is what counts and then fender tag plus the radiator support and you can also look under the package tray cover and along the trunk rail. There were no 318 RR's made in '70 but a lot of Satellite's.

Ghoste

But, if the title is the same vin as the door tag, it won't matter much if every other number on the car says Road Runner, you're gonna have a helluva time getting the DMV to change the numbers on that title.

NHCharger

What's that stuff growing out of the top of the rear seat :scope:
I thought the stamp on the rad. support only has the last six numbers? If so it wouldn't help ID the car.
Awful lot of rust for a Georgia car. I've seen northeast cars with less rust.
Unless the owner has a lot of documentation this one raises too many red flags.
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