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is xv overpriced?

Started by miller, September 21, 2007, 08:11:36 AM

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Rolling_Thunder

Mike I have to agree with you - No worries though - IF my charger ever gets back on the road I am most definately taking it out to some tracks around here...      I added everything up...     I got quoted $200,000 for an XV 68 Charger with their level II package, 6.1L hemi, and basicly stock interior...         when my charger is done - I am looking at right around $30,000 including the car price itself...   If my car performs even close to the XV cars I would say I am WAY ahead of the game...      my paint might not be as nice but I look at it this way...     I'm buildiung my car to drive...     rock chips will happen...     door dings in parking lots...        I am not knocking XV as a company - I plan on using some of their chassis stiffening parts, but I can't just come up with $200,000 for a charger...      especially at 21 years old.   :smilielol:
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

Mike DC

     
For $200,000 you could get that new Corvette, and then go get four or five nice Chargers along with it.

I'd never dump that much into one single car.  I don't care if it can go to the moon and back. 


   
 

suntech

Even if i could swing that kind of coin, i would not buy a ready done car. simply because my hobby is to build a car like i want it. I will use the level II front suspention, their brakes, and some other parts.
I want to build something most of the geople will call a "high end" ride, but i will build it myself, and not just buy it.
Ok, the parts alone will be a fortune, but i have been waiting for this for like 20 some years, so i decided  f**k it!!! I will spend what i need to spend, and so be!!
Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

ChargerRT440

comparable suspension kit:
https://www.reillymotorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=16144&cat=255&page=1
couple thousand less for something compareable I guess theres is always the you get what you pay for saying but people seem to really enjoy these Bill(the owner) also has special aftermarket rear suspension kits that arn't on the site.

Rolling_Thunder

Quote from: ChargerRT440 on October 03, 2007, 01:02:13 AM
comparable suspension kit:
https://www.reillymotorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=16144&cat=255&page=1
couple thousand less for something compareable I guess theres is always the you get what you pay for saying but people seem to really enjoy these Bill(the owner) also has special aftermarket rear suspension kits that arn't on the site.

exactly...    and thinking about it - I dont see how RMS can't be severe competition with XV - price difference aside - Bill needs to get something on a skidpad that shows his product is better/worse than the XV set up...     I wouldn't be suprised if it was comparable
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

Mike DC

 
If you took out all the body roll with stiff-MoFo springs, then you could probably get a STOCK Mopar suspension to do similiar skidpad numbers to either one of those kits.  Top-level suspension work has a lot more to it than skidpad numbers.



Not trying to dis the AlterKtion kit though.  Seems like some pretty good stuff for the amount of money & chop-work involved. 

 

Rolling_Thunder

I'm almost sure sure a stock style suspension can beat those numbers...      I understand skidpads are not the end all be all of performance suspensions - but for a company that markets their products as such...       lets the just I was expecting better (not knocking either product line) but there was just such a hype with the XV stuff I thought it would have produced better numbers -  :Twocents: 
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

chargerman68

1968 CHARGER R/T CLONELOOKING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT 69-70 CHARGER SHELL

Blakcharger440

Does anyone know if anybody at all has purchased an XV car??? Or even purchased their Level 1 suspension???

ChargerRT440

lol I know e'berg loves the xv suspensions. but then again as far as I'm concerned e'berg is an idiot. but thats my opinion yours may differ. He bashes the RMS stuff which is almost the exact same and loves the XV stuff.

Rolling_Thunder

Quote from: ChargerRT440 on October 16, 2007, 07:09:52 PM
lol I know e'berg loves the xv suspensions. but then again as far as I'm concerned e'berg is an idiot. but thats my opinion yours may differ. He bashes the RMS stuff which is almost the exact same and loves the XV stuff.

not exactly the same thing - i think a RMS and XV shoot out is called for to settle such debates     :smash:
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

Ghoste

And we should all get a turn beating the snot out of... err, I mean subjectively analyzing in a real world fashion, both cars.  :D

Rolling_Thunder

Quote from: Ghoste on October 17, 2007, 03:50:17 AM
And we should all get a turn beating the snot out of... err, I mean subjectively analyzing in a real world fashion, both cars.  :D

nah - bad idea...     I have a habit of finding every weak point of a car...     my boss's GTX was a universal joint...       boss's Superbird was a connecting rod....      my charger was a tire...           customer's cars span from electrical issues to shoddy built transmissions...   

Rest assured...       if the car CAN be broken - I'm the one who can do it    :yesnod:
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

69bronzeT5

I think some parts are overpriced but others seem fair :Twocents:
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1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
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Mike DC


I'd be all for a RMS/XV shootout. 

But it's way too easy to stack the deck on something like this. 
I'd only take the results seriously under a couple of conditions: 


--  It has to be a real-world road course or something; not just skidpad digits.  Preferably a course with some actual bumps & unpredictable turns. 

--  The wheel/tire combos had better be completely identical.  The two vehicles' curb weights, HP, and amount of other racing mods have to all be pretty darn close. 

--  Same driver, same day, and same amount of experience in each setup (preferably none at all beforehand).

   

RallyeMike

QuoteMy thinking is this... I am probably one of few, if not the only person on DC.com that actually takes their Charger on a road courses

It's Few, damnit !  :lol:

QuoteIt has to be a real-world road course or something; not just skidpad digits.  Preferably a course with some actual bumps & unpredictable turns. 

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