Re: Restoration of my B5 Blue 4Spd Charger 500... Blue Thunder debuts...Finally!

[nascarxx29]

I had a power wheels big photo of it parked on grass wearing recalls.Then it had dog dishes on it later

http://www.myclassiccar.com/episode/01/06/

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Only found this no mention of alternate trim rings that can be used
http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2007/05/01/hmn_feature27.html

Interesting article, thanks for posting Dave...

[nascarxx29]

If your into details compare the original W23 recal wheel lugnuts .To what there using today

[brianz426]

Hey Allen,
Not to get to far off the wheel subject here, but have you given any thought to what you are going to do about your leaf springs? You may not have thought this far ahead yet but I need to replace them on my Road Runner. They're sagging so I'm leaning towards new rather than rebuild. I was thinking ESPO or Eaton. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

I plan to use new leaf springs on the C500.  Several years ago I bought a new set of "superstock" leaf springs from a friend after he decided not to use them on his '63 Max Wedge car.  He later borrowed them back, and they have been on his car ever since...  I might need to buy another set... 

Maybe someone will chime with recomendations... 

For your info Allen I've gotten quotes from Eaton Spring ($645.25) And ESPO ($288.43) for my '69 RoadRunner. This is complete package correct springs and all new related hardware plus shipping. There must be a reason for such a drastic difference in price but I can't seem to find it.    I've brought this topic up in a couple other forums and the consesus is that the people who have bought ESPO are happy, the Eaton supporters say you get what you pay for and they are happy. I've gotten mixed reviews on the Mopar Performance springs some people are happy but more people complained about sagging after a year.  My next step was to look into a local spring rebuilding place. I only want to do this once, I've had this car for almost 30 years and plan on keeping it for another 30.

[The70RT]

What $645.00  not over my dead springs 

[nascarxx29]

I got springs from Laura at ESPO $300.00 for 1 in over stock height back when I got them .They went up that much $600

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Hey Allen,
Not to get to far off the wheel subject here, but have you given any thought to what you are going to do about your leaf springs? You may not have thought this far ahead yet but I need to replace them on my Road Runner. They're sagging so I'm leaning towards new rather than rebuild. I was thinking ESPO or Eaton. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

I plan to use new leaf springs on the C500.  Several years ago I bought a new set of "superstock" leaf springs from a friend after he decided not to use them on his '63 Max Wedge car.  He later borrowed them back, and they have been on his car ever since...  I might need to buy another set... 

Maybe someone will chime with recomendations... 

For your info Allen I've gotten quotes from Eaton Spring ($645.25) And ESPO ($288.43) for my '69 RoadRunner. This is complete package correct springs and all new related hardware plus shipping. There must be a reason for such a drastic difference in price but I can't seem to find it.    I've brought this topic up in a couple other forums and the consesus is that the people who have bought ESPO are happy, the Eaton supporters say you get what you pay for and they are happy. I've gotten mixed reviews on the Mopar Performance springs some people are happy but more people complained about sagging after a year.  My next step was to look into a local spring rebuilding place. I only want to do this once, I've had this car for almost 30 years and plan on keeping it for another 30.

Thanks for the info Brian... the Eaton springs sure are pricey!!! 

Well, the W23 repro wheels arrived yesterday... they are pricey too...      Great DC.Com discount tho... about 25% off list price

I saw your post on Moparts... let me know what you find out or decide to do.

Allen

[moparstuart]

Hey Allen,
Not to get to far off the wheel subject here, but have you given any thought to what you are going to do about your leaf springs? You may not have thought this far ahead yet but I need to replace them on my Road Runner. They're sagging so I'm leaning towards new rather than rebuild. I was thinking ESPO or Eaton. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

I plan to use new leaf springs on the C500.  Several years ago I bought a new set of "superstock" leaf springs from a friend after he decided not to use them on his '63 Max Wedge car.  He later borrowed them back, and they have been on his car ever since...  I might need to buy another set... 

Maybe someone will chime with recomendations... 

For your info Allen I've gotten quotes from Eaton Spring ($645.25) And ESPO ($288.43) for my '69 RoadRunner. This is complete package correct springs and all new related hardware plus shipping. There must be a reason for such a drastic difference in price but I can't seem to find it.    I've brought this topic up in a couple other forums and the consesus is that the people who have bought ESPO are happy, the Eaton supporters say you get what you pay for and they are happy. I've gotten mixed reviews on the Mopar Performance springs some people are happy but more people complained about sagging after a year.  My next step was to look into a local spring rebuilding place. I only want to do this once, I've had this car for almost 30 years and plan on keeping it for another 30.

Thanks for the info Brian... the Eaton springs sure are pricey!!! 

Well, the W23 repro wheels arrived yesterday... they are pricey too...      Great DC.Com discount tho... about 25% off list price

I saw your post on Moparts... let me know what you find out or decide to do.

Allen

pictures of the wheels   

[xs29j8Bullitt]

pictures of the wheels   

Maybe by the weekend Stuart...  It was all that I could do to carry the 10 boxes into the garage so the neighborhood militia would not have to continue guarding them... 

[moparstuart]

pictures of the wheels   

Maybe by the weekend Stuart...  It was all that I could do to carry the 10 boxes into the garage so the neighborhood militia would not have to continue guarding them... 

[Dave Kanofsky]

Hey Allen,
Not to get to far off the wheel subject here, but have you given any thought to what you are going to do about your leaf springs? You may not have thought this far ahead yet but I need to replace them on my Road Runner. They're sagging so I'm leaning towards new rather than rebuild. I was thinking ESPO or Eaton. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

I plan to use new leaf springs on the C500.  Several years ago I bought a new set of "superstock" leaf springs from a friend after he decided not to use them on his '63 Max Wedge car.  He later borrowed them back, and they have been on his car ever since...  I might need to buy another set...  

Maybe someone will chime with recomendations...  

For your info Allen I've gotten quotes from Eaton Spring ($645.25) And ESPO ($288.43) for my '69 RoadRunner. This is complete package correct springs and all new related hardware plus shipping. There must be a reason for such a drastic difference in price but I can't seem to find it.   I've brought this topic up in a couple other forums and the consesus is that the people who have bought ESPO are happy, the Eaton supporters say you get what you pay for and they are happy. I've gotten mixed reviews on the Mopar Performance springs some people are happy but more people complained about sagging after a year.   My next step was to look into a local spring rebuilding place. I only want to do this once, I've had this car for almost 30 years and plan on keeping it for another 30.

I have had ESPO on my Daytona for about 6 years and they are doing great.  I had a set on my SuperBird before that.  They are great to work with too, excellent customer service.

I had put the Mopar Performance ones on a '67 Coronet and always thought they sat too low from day one.

[nascarxx29]

I got the ESPO springs on our cars to

[xs29j8Bullitt]

pictures of the wheels   

Maybe by the weekend Stuart...  It was all that I could do to carry the 10 boxes into the garage so the neighborhood militia would not have to continue guarding them... 

A picture of the 10 boxes...       

[b5blue]

  There's a chunk of change! (they are going to look sooooo gooood!) 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I have had ESPO on my Daytona for about 6 years and they are doing great.  I had a set on my SuperBird before that.  They are great to work with too, excellent customer service.

I had put the Mopar Performance ones on a '67 Coronet and always thought they sat too low from day one.

Thanks for the input Dave...  I am starting to lean toward getting ESPO springs... 

[PocketThunder]

A picture of the 10 boxes...       

10?  10 boxes?  8 wheels and 2 boxes for trim rings?   

[hotrod98]

Allen, you've got way too many toys. 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

A picture of the 10 boxes...       

10?  10 boxes?  8 wheels and 2 boxes for trim rings?   

Yep... The upper box on each stack is a lot lighter than the other four in the stack... trim rings and center caps I assume.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Allen, you've got way too many toys. 

I assume you are refering to the Lemon Twist & Torred bookends for the boxes...

You are right, and a solution is being planned... but Ole Yeller & Scarlett are staying put! 

[b5blue]

Have you inspected the contents for correctness and damage yet? (the only reason I ask is I regretted not doing so ASAP)

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Have you inspected the contents for correctness and damage yet? (the only reason I ask is I regretted not doing so ASAP)

Not yet... I will try to find time this weekend... I have had a busy week! 

[b5blue]

I got E body rear leaf springs in for my Charger (newbie in shipping) luckily as soon as I found out they shipped correct ones without waiting for wrong ones to return. So your not concerned about correct part # on rear springs for Blue Thunder?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I got E body rear leaf springs in for my Charger (newbie in shipping) luckily as soon as I found out they shipped correct ones without waiting for wrong ones to return. So your not concerned about correct part # on rear springs for Blue Thunder?

I am not sure what your question is, but I have not ordered rear springs yet.  If your question is about originality, I will probably go with aftermarket new springs instead of originals that need to be re-curved every 3-5 years.  I will save the originals tho...  Bolt on parts are an easy swap, and my C500 is not a totally correct concours restoration...  I will try to buy correct appearing repros if possible.

[nascarxx29]

On a unrelated note found picture of Dave Jones daytona wearing recall wheels with trim rings

[C500]

Man! those recalls sure look good on an aero car.