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Re: Restoration of my B5 Blue 4Spd Charger 500... Blue Thunder debuts...Finally!

Started by xs29j8Bullitt, September 16, 2007, 05:39:22 PM

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xs29j8Bullitt

#725
June 18, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: Fitz73Chrgr on June 18, 2008, 10:10:14 AM
any new developments?  :popcrn:

Not really... Still on hold for AMD reproduction parts.  Talked to Alan at AMD on Monday and he said the valance corner prototypes had FINALLY arrived and would be test fitted this week.  They have already noticed a flange that is too narrow, but hopefully that will be the only issue with the test fit.  Still sounds like the first production parts are still 30-45 days out...  :P  Alan said to call back this Friday to see how the test fit went.

The C500 has been on hold for a couple of months now.  I have also been preoccupied with other projects and a few mini disasters.  The latest one is my home water heater... I get to spend $835 or more Friday afternoon.  In the meantime I get to enjoy my indoor (garage) pool...  :brickwall:

My workshop wiring Phase II project is making slow progress... 11 new flourescent light fixtures have been installed, with more to come.  My workshop clean-up project has drastically slowed due to leg injuries (cyatic nerve & ankle)...  :P  Maybe I will post a few workshop wiring pictures sometime soon...  The Texas Summer heat is also starting to build, I spent most of last Friday mowing and doing other yard work, etc.   :eek2:

Well... those are all my best excuses for now...  :lol:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

69_500

#726
June 18, 2008, 07:22:01 PM
Hey Allen, when you finally get fed up with the whole restoring car thing just let me know. I'd be more than happy to take a few of those projects off your hands.  :D Its been a few months since I posted anything like that so I figured I'd just remind ya.  ;)

xs29j8Bullitt

#727
June 18, 2008, 07:24:20 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on June 18, 2008, 07:22:01 PM
Hey Allen, when you finally get fed up with the whole restoring car thing just let me know. I'd be more than happy to take a few of those projects off your hands.  :D Its been a few months since I posted anything like that so I figured I'd just remind ya.  ;)

Do I know you?   :scratchchin:  :D   ;)
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

69_500

#728
June 18, 2008, 08:18:16 PM
Nah, just a person you met in passing at a show.  :cheers:

moparstuart

#729
June 19, 2008, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on June 18, 2008, 07:24:20 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on June 18, 2008, 07:22:01 PM
Hey Allen, when you finally get fed up with the whole restoring car thing just let me know. I'd be more than happy to take a few of those projects off your hands.  :D Its been a few months since I posted anything like that so I figured I'd just remind ya.  ;)

Do I know you?   :scratchchin:  :D   ;)
put my name on that list too allen , when your tired of the aero cars just call !
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

69_500

#730
July 19, 2008, 09:03:02 PM
Allen,

Is been nearly a month. Whats new with the car? Anything? I've always been told that no news is good news.

And hopefully you'll be at the Monster Mopar again this year too right?

xs29j8Bullitt

#731
July 26, 2008, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on July 19, 2008, 09:03:02 PM
Allen,

Is been nearly a month. Whats new with the car? Anything? I've always been told that no news is good news.

And hopefully you'll be at the Monster Mopar again this year too right?

Some progress on getting the required AMD reproduction parts, on Friday they shipped the rear valance and front valance splash shields, along with a set of prototype rear valance corners... Thanks to Alan at AMD!!!  Still unavailable are the trunk floor extensions and rear crossmember (might be able to repair the original or fabricate one).

Work on the C500 is still on hold... might get started again if work-arounds can be done for the missing parts.  Otherwise the hold might last 45-60 days longer, or more...  :shruggy:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

PocketThunder

#732
July 28, 2008, 10:19:51 AM
Hot damn those 1/4 panels look nice!   :drool5:
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

The70RT

#733
July 28, 2008, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on July 28, 2008, 10:19:51 AM
Hot damn those 1/4 panels look nice!   :drool5:

:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: !!!
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xs29j8Bullitt

#734
August 20, 2008, 04:58:07 PM
Update... Sort of...

Alan at AMD called to say they had most of the parts needed to get my C500 back in work ready to ship.  The one exception is the rear crossmember which may (or may not) need to be replaced.  The problem is that the C500 will need to come off of the rotisserie to get access to that area, and a crossmember will need to be in hand if needed... otherwise the C500 cannot go back on the Whirly Jig.

Alan told me the rear crossmembers are on a ship headed for the US right now, but the supplier forgot to withhold a few to air freight here.  He believes the crossmembers will arrive in about 3 weeks, so the C500 should be back in work by the end of September... I HOPE!

The parts that I recently received from AMD look great, even the pre-production prototype parts.  :cheers:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

hemi68charger

#735
August 20, 2008, 05:33:30 PM
Congrad's on the progress Allen..... Pushing forward..............  :2thumbs:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

WingCharger

#736
August 20, 2008, 06:45:25 PM
Amazing Car, good luck on the rest! :2thumbs:

moparstuart

#737
August 20, 2008, 09:12:49 PM
great news brother , great news  :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

WINGR

#738
August 25, 2008, 10:28:49 PM
Hi Allen, glad to hear she's still coming along. Sorry to hear about the water heater though, that money would come in handy on the resto I'm sure. By the way I hope that I am still on the list. ;D Take care.

WINGR/Steve

xs29j8Bullitt

#739
August 28, 2008, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: WINGR on August 25, 2008, 10:28:49 PM
By the way I hope that I am still on the list. ;D Take care.

There is always hope Steve!  ;D  As I have said for years, a multi-car trade for a turn-key Daytona is possible as long as it is of even value AND does not include the triplets... Black 68 Hemi Charger R/T, Platinum 69 Hemi Road Runner, & Yellow 70 `Cuda 440-6...  :popcrn:

Now for some news... I just talked to Alan @ AMD and was told a small number of crossmembers were un-expectedly received in an air-freight shipment of other parts and one was shipped to me today!!! Happy, Happy...Joy, Joy  :woohoo:  :dance: :dance: :dance:...  :eek2:

I will have to see when the body shop will be able to start back on the C500...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

moparstuart

#740
August 28, 2008, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on August 28, 2008, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: WINGR on August 25, 2008, 10:28:49 PM
By the way I hope that I am still on the list. ;D Take care.

There is always hope Steve!  ;D  As I have said for years, a multi-car trade for a turn-key Daytona is possible as long as it is of even value AND does not include the triplets... Black 68 Hemi Charger R/T, Platinum 69 Hemi Road Runner, & Yellow 70 `Cuda 440-6...  :popcrn:

Now for some news... I just talked to Alan @ AMD and was told a small number of crossmembers were un-expectedly received in an air-freight shipment of other parts and one was shipped to me today!!! Happy, Happy...Joy, Joy  :woohoo:  :dance: :dance: :dance:...  :eek2:

I will have to see when the body shop will be able to start back on the C500...

Allen
ok allen it's not ok for me to happy joy dance but you can ?  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:  great news hope work starts up again soon
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

xs29j8Bullitt

#741
August 29, 2008, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on August 28, 2008, 08:36:35 PM
ok allen it's not ok for me to happy joy dance but you can ?  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:  great news hope work starts up again soon

I thought it would get a reaction from you... :D  :lol:

But I won't be dancing for real anytime soon... just got back from the Doctor, all the tests & X-Rays came back negative... I guess the intense pain that comes and goes in my left leg in just my imagination!  :eek2:  :RantExplode:  Next step is two referrals, including one to a Sports Medicine Physical Therapy specialist... FINALLY!

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

moparstuart

#742
August 30, 2008, 10:04:30 PM
hope you get it figured out , see you in a couple weeks ,it's getting closer
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

xs29j8Bullitt

#743
September 05, 2008, 06:24:17 PM
Well, the C500 project may be getting derailed for a while...

First the good news...

I received the final repro part from AMD on Wednesday, the rear crossmember which looks very well done.  I took the parts received from AMD in the last two months over to the body shop today:
> Rear Valance
> Rear Valance Corners (R&L)
> Rear Crossmember
> Rear Crossmember Fillers (R&L)
> Trunk Floor Extensions (R&L)
> Front Fender / Valance Splash Shields (R&L)

Now the bad news...

The body shop labor charges have been much greater than the estimate:

Mid-November 2007 - Estimate was $16,000 (labor & materials to deliver a painted body shell)
Late-November 2007 - Estimate was adjusted to $18,000 - $20,000 for the same work (written estimate when the body was delivered)
Billling as of today is $18,098 (vast majority is for labor @ $45 per hour)... current estimate to complete $33,000
The $33K figure does not include approximately $10K spend on reproduction sheetmetal and other body shop related material

The figures above do not include thousands more spent on items for the C500, just those related to getting a painted body shell back.

Based on the inability of the body shop owner to adequately explain the overages (says it is hard to estimate the hours a car will take...), I told him to only assemble and prime the body so I could pick it up.  His "estimate" to get it to that point is another $5000 plus lead work of about $1000, for a total of over $24,000 for a primered body ($18,098 + $5000 +$1000).

I just wanted to give a heads-up on the possible upcoming work stopage and what has lead up to it.  There is still a chance that the body shop and I can work out a deal to have them complete the paint job, but based on today's conversation it seems unlikely...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

The70RT

#744
September 05, 2008, 07:10:56 PM
W  :o W that's a lot of cash.   :rotz: Sounds kinda crazy. More mistakes but more money  :scratchchin: Hope it all works out for ya.
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BB1

#745
September 05, 2008, 07:34:59 PM
Same thing happend to me, nothing much you can do about it, just wait.  :-\
Delete my profile

69_500

#746
September 05, 2008, 10:49:20 PM
Ouchy there Allen.

How much of that was wasted hours of work, with them doing something, then having to go back and do it again though? And didn't they get ahead of themselves at a few points in time as well? As in doing things before they should have, which in turn created more work later?

moparstuart

#747
September 05, 2008, 10:55:46 PM
wow at those figures i would want it to be a turn key returned assemble restoration . sorry to here ,but you are right to not be held up for hwy robbery .
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

69_500

#748
September 06, 2008, 04:30:55 PM
I'm hoping that you find someone else close by to do the work, because I for one am very excited about seeing another C500 restored, and back on the road after a long period of time.

C500

#749
September 07, 2008, 12:48:33 AM
Those 1/4's look great on there. I wish full quarters were available when I put one of those Taiwanese ones on my 68.

Thats frustrating getting quoted a price at the start and getting charged double towards the end. I hope it works out for you.

Thanks for the update, it will be one hell of a ride when you're finished.





"An aggressive exterior with power to match was enough to pull in the performance boys-especially when abetted by a pair of pipes blaring out the back, and brawny red-sidewall rubber hitting the pavement."  

"........the four speed box changes cogs with the precision of a sharp axe striking soft pine."
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