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anyone besides myself think there's too many jenny lees?..

Started by Brock Samson, August 27, 2007, 06:18:42 PM

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Brock Samson

   :shruggy:

and do other jenny lee owners think the more the merrier?...

I just don't get it...  :shruggy:

bull

Who's Jenny Lee? Was that Robert E. Lee's niece or something?

Brock Samson

  ok wise guy just for you...         http://youtube.com/watch?v=spz8_rpE0e0









ya' had to ask huh?..

& tonights bonus feature...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=810TQyT2KXI&mode=related&search=


attention mods might as well go on ahead and move this to off topic...   :eyes:










turns out one of the jennie lees was a model on the Benny Hill Show (the kids are goin' Eh?.. What?.)

here's a fun website devoted to the Benny Hill Gals..

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.runstop.de/bennysplace/fete03.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.runstop.de/bennysplace/set03c.html&h=357&w=500&sz=28&tbnid=laGTCUpXg33MgM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=130&hl=en&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djenny%2Blee%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG&frame=small

next question:

was Benny Hill the british equivelant to the DOH?..    :D

TruckDriver

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71ChallengeHer


Brightyellow69rtse

i like the general, its a matter of taste simple as that.  when i see a yellow charger i dont think man another yellow charger theres just too many of those. the general just rubs some people the wrong way i guess........Mike

Brock Samson

i think the JL is just fine, but i'm wondering when i see two "new" ones come out of the paint shop every week,..
on everything and anything..  :scratchchin:  :shruggy:

HAZZARDJOHN

I guess I just don't care. As long as they aren't jumping them I am just happy someone is enjoying their car. I wanted a General Lee for years but as I get older my Tastes change, but is it any more sacrilege to paint a charger orange and put some decals on it than what I want to do? I want to go fuel injected modern engine with a modern drive train and paint it Bright Island Blue (a Ford color) with a comfortable modern interior. How come I don't get flack for doing this? I got the electronic bug from working on my LT1 impala and want to turn a charger into a fuel efficient high horsepower tire shredding machine, that I can drive across country without worry and without having to mortgage the house., now that is far more destructive to a piece of history than a paint job and a decal and I bet most here would applaud it when it is done. I guarantee it will be harder to make my car look like it just came off the line than it would be to redo a GL. Kinda seems silly to me to be that hung up on another mans car.

~HJ
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't fix your brakes, but don't worry I made your horn louder."

rt green

jenny lee had an orange car, right?   oh wait a minute, thats Sara lee. the gordon fisherman had the flag, now i remember.
third string oil changer

Brock Samson

 :scratchchin: But you watched Superman too,..  right?. how come ya'z ain't all wearin tights and a cape?..  :shruggy:
show some freakin originality for cryin out loud...  putta green stripe and a DAYTONA wing on or something...  :RantExplode:



71ChallengeHer

Quote from: Brock Samson on August 27, 2007, 10:19:10 PM
:scratchchin: But you watched Superman too,..  right... how come ya'z ain't all wearin tights and a cape?..  :shruggy:
show some freakin originality for cryin out loud...  putta green stripe and a DAYTONA wing on or something...  :RantExplode:



Cause Superman wasn't a hottie like Bo and Luke. 

Khyron

not really, But I think we get too many of these threads :nana:  :icon_smile_big:


nothing wrong with cloneing a car.

Are there too many R/T clones?
Are there too many Red Chargers?
Are there too many Black Chargers?

My Opinion here. There will never be too many DONE Charger  :2thumbs:


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Brock Samson

 :shruggy: ok and what if there were 10,000 odd CMDL Clones running around on '68s '70s '72s and various sedans?..

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article2234347.ece

jmeekins33

Honestly, I don't care if everyone who owns a Charger painted it pink, took a dump on it and then drove it off a cliff.  It's none of my business.  Look at it this way.  If you own a 69 Charger and everyone else who has one makes a GL out of it, then jumps it and totals it, your car would be the last surviving 69 Charger and would therefore become pricless.  Everybody wins.    :lol:   

On a serious note I really wish we could get away from threads like this.  They can make General Lee fans and owners feel unwelcome. 

-Jason M

Judhudson

Hey, to me, a Charger back on the road where it belongs instead of out in a field rotting away is perfectly fine for me, and it should be for a lot of us Charger folks.  No matter if it is orange, red, pink, purple, etc.  The main fact is it is alive and somebody out there somewhere is enjoying it for what it is worth :)

Mike DC

   
Other Charger fans don't complain when every guy off the street thinks their (regular) Charger is the most badass thing on four wheels. 

Whether everyone wants to admit it or not, movie & TV roles like "Dukes" played a real role in that.  Hollywood roles had at least a little to do with it decades ago, and they're having more & more influence as the years go by.  Most gorgeous restored Chargers barely get driven enough for younger kids to even see them at all, much less ever make any tire-burning impression on them. 

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Somebody will probably respond to this with, "My love for Chargers has nothing to do with "Dukes" and I wouldn't mind if the car had never been on the show."

I think that's beside the point, for better or worse.  The car is enjoying the extra continued respect & appreciation from the Hollywood roles whether everyone wants it to or not.  And most younger kids really DON'T have much chance to know these cars any other way these days, so I think the exposure is ultimately more a blessing than a curse.

 

Chris G.

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on August 28, 2007, 09:25:40 AM
Somebody will probably respond to this with, "My love for Chargers has nothing to do with "Dukes" and I wouldn't mind if the car had never been on the show."

I'll be that someone. I don't think I have ever seen a complete episode of the show. And let's keep it real, any self respecting true Dukes fan should be embarrassed about that horrific movie they made. That thing was god awful.

Truth be told, you park your regular Charger next to an 01 version, and you will get zero attention. People flock to the Dukes car at every show/cruise. I could care less how many get done. As long as they are '69 correct and have tan interior. The rest are all make believe.  :Twocents:

Khyron

Quote from: Brock Samson on August 28, 2007, 12:36:04 AM
:shruggy: ok and what if there were 10,000 odd CMDL Clones running around on '68s '70s '72s and various sedans?..

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article2234347.ece

again. Then I would have stuck with my original paint idea of Orange with a white top and white stripe. I did my DMCL because I thought it was fairly original and fun. When I get bored with it, I'll take off the stripe, put a white top on it with a white stripe and call it a day.... ahhh the magic of vinyl. And when people get board with there GL clones. they can put a black top and a stripe as well. No love lost to me.

If I bought a GL clone. I would drive it, have fun with it, then remove the decals and do what I said. A GL clone is no different to me as an R/T clone. and i'm willin gto bet there are more R/T clones then GL clones.

and BTW:



that chick needs to wash her car :lol:


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Brock Samson

Quote from: Judhudson on August 28, 2007, 06:02:13 AM
Hey, to me, a Charger back on the road where it belongs instead of out in a field rotting away is perfectly fine for me, and it should be for a lot of us Charger folks.  No matter if it is orange, red, pink, purple, etc.  The main fact is it is alive and somebody out there somewhere is enjoying it for what it is worth :)


   It's not purple Its Blue! get your eyes checked!  :RantExplode:


Quote from: jmeekins33 on August 28, 2007, 02:06:41 AM
Honestly, I don't care if everyone who owns a Charger painted it pink, took a dump on it and then drove it off a cliff. It's none of my business. Look at it this way. If you own a 69 Charger and everyone else who has one makes a GL out of it, then jumps it and totals it, your car would be the last surviving 69 Charger and would therefore become pricless. Everybody wins. :lol:

On a serious note I really wish we could get away from threads like this. They can make General Lee fans and owners feel unwelcome.

-Jason M


  my purpose in asking this question is not to alienate the DOH fans, i think it's great, there's some really sweet Jenny Lees out there..
no doubt,.. some i'd be proud to have built. but i guess it may be an age thing,.. my love of chargers dates from 1966 when i was 9, i guess most JL owners didnt know what a charger was till they saw the TV show in what was it?..'78?..
  this is a simple discussion not a put down... I'm just asking...

BTW: i drive mine alot harder then most folks probably do theirs and the hills here qualify as cliffs...  :D

 

Mike DC

 
Most of the diehard DOH crowd would really agree with you guys.  There are too many GLs out there right now.

I think most of us would rather see a small number of really good GLs in the hands of the diehards, rather than zillions of less-enthusiastic guys with money cruising GLs with mediocre accuracy.


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And yeah, the 2005 movie was weak. 
They did justice to the General Lee's muscle and to Daisy's cute round little ass, but they screwed up just about everything else.

Let's not even bring up the 2007 DVD release. 
It was basically a terrible low-budget "American Pie" ripoff that had a GL parked in the background. 

 

Pistolpete

Wow, I cant believe how segregated this site has become.......I thought it was supposed to be about enjoying ALL chargers, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Gen,RT's, Daytona's, GL's, DMCL, Bullit...and yes even......NEW Chargers (Gasp!!!) who cares? Some of you guys are like a broken record on these topics...sheesh.

What happened to all for one and one for all? Brothers in arms? The more Chargers that get saved/restored the better I say - no matter what they are.......best damn muscle car on the planet...period
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70charger_boy

Quote from: 71ChallengeHer on August 27, 2007, 09:03:32 PM
It that a song by Jan and Dean ? :icon_smile_tongue:

:rofl:  I was gonna say Captain and Teneile, but I'll go with Jan and Dean

71ChallengeHer

Quote from: 70charger_boy on August 28, 2007, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: 71ChallengeHer on August 27, 2007, 09:03:32 PM
It that a song by Jan and Dean ? :icon_smile_tongue:

:rofl:  I was gonna say Captain and Teneile, but I'll go with Jan and Dean
Opps a little wrong on the spelling. ;)Jan and Dean
Between their 1958 debut single, "Jennie Lee," and Jan Berry's near fatal car crash in April, 1966, Jan and Dean charted thirteen Top Thirty singles and ...

www.history-of-rock.com/jan_and_dean.htm - 10k - Similar pages

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chgr500

Can't say there's too many....sure alot on this forum,  but to each there own.....not my cup of tea though I sure can enjoy a stock '69 R/T with certain color combos.....eye candy  :o

jmeekins33

Quote from: Pistolpete on August 28, 2007, 08:46:24 PM
Wow, I cant believe how segregated this site has become.......I thought it was supposed to be about enjoying ALL chargers, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Gen,RT's, Daytona's, GL's, DMCL, Bullit...and yes even......NEW Chargers (Gasp!!!) who cares? Some of you guys are like a broken record on these topics...sheesh.

What happened to all for one and one for all? Brothers in arms? The more Chargers that get saved/restored the better I say - no matter what they are.......best damn muscle car on the planet...period

No doubt.  You are correct sir.

Brock Samson

 hey, i'm just tired of them myself, i've seen a half dozen i like, it's  one mans opinion that's all.. knock yourselves out spraybombing every charger you come across hugger orange and tan,.. whatever...  :shruggy:

6670charger

I used to feel strongly against them.  However, I've re-adjusted my thinking.  I'll have to agree with the guy above who said that as long as they aren't jumping them and destroying them, it's up to the owner.  I will say this much, however.  I do get a little tired of hearing some young kid at a car show commenting on a 2nd gen Charger about what a great General Lee he could make out of it. 

Although I don't mind anyone donig whatever they want with their car, and I sort of like the GL myself, I get tired (actually that isn't the correct word), I find it troubling that some people only identify the 69 Charger as a General Lee.  It's as if they wouldn't look at it, or consider it otherwise.

The General Lee is really only a paint job on most cars, and can very easily (relative term) be changed back to the original look.  Much more easily than, say, a F&F Charger with most of the interior stripped, and a huge blower cut through the hood.  Take a GL and change the paint and wheels, and you have a stock Charger or mild street machine again.

Eric
Proudly Confusing The Crap Out Of People Since 1963

Ghoste

General Lee's don't really bother me.  I do take exception to painting Chargers orange and then using them for jump fodder.

moparsons

  I like the GL and at one time planned on building one. I have since changed my mind.I figure that no matter how nice....or crappy it is the general would get major attention everywhere I took it. I guess I'd rather have people respect and admire my charger and say "wow you've put a lot of work and money in that thing! :2thumbs:" than have them say "wow..it's the general lee. ::)"

Andy

skip68

 :popcrn: Man, this is good.   :popcrn:  I'm getting close to being done with my "Jenny Lee"  :icon_smile_big: And I'm kind of on the fence about this .  I'll have fun for a little while and then paint the car my own color.  I do agree with both sides but I think personal taste is what's important.  :Twocents:  Just remember,   :scratchchin:  :shruggy: crap, I forgot what I was going to say.     :moon:   Chuck.........
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Khyron

Quote from: Pistolpete on August 28, 2007, 08:46:24 PM
Wow, I cant believe how segregated this site has become.......I thought it was supposed to be about enjoying ALL chargers, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Gen,RT's, Daytona's, GL's, DMCL, Bullit...and yes even......NEW Chargers (Gasp!!!) who cares?

I was with you right up until the end.


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pettybird

if there were no GL chargers, the show would fade from memory.

if the show would fade from memory, fewer idiots would point at my blue superbirds and shout out "GENERAL LEE!!!!"


as such, I hate them.  and Super Bees.  and Joe Dirt.


the Pixar movie "Cars" kicks ass, though.  5 year olds shouting "dinoco!  dinoco!" is awesome. 

Ghoste

What's wrong with Super Bees?  They were here first you know. :nana:

Joshua

Quote from: Ghoste on September 12, 2007, 03:40:07 AM
What's wrong with Super Bees?  They were here first you know. :nana:

Yeah, what's wrong with Bee's???? My favorite Mopar behind a '68 Charger......
Someday I'll have a '70 with Ramcharger hood and pistol grip!
  :drool5::icon_smile_big:

And Joe Dirt was COOL.....admit it.....hahaha! :icon_smile_cool:

chargerman68

look john(bo duke) cant do anything without the car.......he is touring to release a movie with no other than a 69 charger without the general lee paint..So i think if it wasnt for the general lee may of us including myself would ever like the charger.....just me :Twocents:
1968 CHARGER R/T CLONELOOKING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT 69-70 CHARGER SHELL

Brock Samson

so your saying, if you'd never seen the DOH you wouldn't like chargers?..

chargerman68

Quote from: Brock Samson on September 12, 2007, 11:22:08 AM
so your saying, if you'd never seen the DOH you wouldn't like chargers?..

maybe.....will never know...but im hooked now............
1968 CHARGER R/T CLONELOOKING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT 69-70 CHARGER SHELL

pettybird

Quote from: Ghoste on September 12, 2007, 03:40:07 AM
What's wrong with Super Bees?  They were here first you know. :nana:

point was "dodge" made a lot of Super Bees with big wings.  and idiots remember that.  and tell you about it at shows.  and call it a Dodge.  it was sarcasm directed at the average joe about not being able to tell one mopar from another.  Imagine walking up to a chevelle and saying 'nice skylark!' or confusing a camaro/firebird.  FYI the quarter panel Plymouth decal is around 27" long.

So, I've got a dodge plymouth super bee that was in joe dirt and it was almost kinda like the car that was in the DOH.  and everyone (or their mother, grandmother, aunt, neighbor) used to have one JUST LIKE THIS.

my favorite 'bee would be a '68, either dark blue over white or black on black, stripe delete either way.  i love '68 coronets--especially R/T's.

Sabre

The only thing that bothers me are the guys who make innaccurate General Lee replicas.  I've seen really bad replica's that were so way off you'd think they've never seen an episode of the show or the car. :eek2:  The whole point of a replica is that it "replicates" what the car looked like on the show.

Other than that they don't bother me.  I'd say there are at least 300+ GL replicas out there, which isn't much considering there are still thousands of Chargers that are not GL's.

Personally the Dukes of Hazzard introduced me to the Dodge Charger.  I was born in September of 1979.  I had Dukes toys by the time I was 1 year old, and some of my very first memories were of the show.

I fell in love with the show and the car right off the bat.  The show portrayed the Charger as a bad-ass beast of a car.  I can remember going to Toys R us as a kid and I saw this blue "Stinger" Charger.  I couldn't have been much older than 7 or 8 at the time maybe younger, but I recognized it as a Charger.  I begged my mom and dad to buy it for me, they did and I still have it.  Along with many other 2 gen Charger toys.




I can remeber keeping my eye out for the Charger in t.v. shows/movies, and toy stores.  All because of the General Lee.

Whether we like it or not the "General Lee" made the Charger more famous than if the GL didn't exist.  The Dukes of Hazzard showed America on a weekly basis for 7 years a great looking car.  The General Lee is the most famous and most recognized star car ever.  It frequently beats all other famous cars even the Batmobile!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Casqlxek58E

The General Lee is essentially the "Superman" of the star car world.  That paint scheme can be put on any car and people will recognize it.  Just like you put the Superman \S/ shield anywhere and it's automatically recognized.


Sabre

Quote from: chargerman68 on September 12, 2007, 10:59:25 AM
look john(bo duke) cant do anything without the car.......he is touring to release a movie with no other than a 69 charger without the general lee paint..So i think if it wasnt for the general lee may of us including myself would ever like the charger.....just me :Twocents:

He's a fan of the Charger and the GL.  That car he is touring with is his own personal car.  Don't forget Smallville, John is famous for that aswell.

RECHRGD

The 2nd generation Chargers were pretty much marketed as a gentlemans' muscle car.  They were a bit more expensive and had more of an air of class about them than say, a roadrunner at the time.  I bought my first '68 when it was new.  Long before that silly show was even thought of.  As far as the car being recognized as a bad-ass muscle car, I think the 1968 movie Bullitt had alot to do with that.  In fact, that movie might have been the trigger to have them consider the Charger for that show.  Anyway, considering the good-ol-boy theme of the show, I think the roadrunner would have been a better fit.  But that's just me, I come from another time.  As far as "too many" GL's--I don't really care, one way or the other.  Hell, my current Charger is a clone of the one I had in '68.   Bob
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dads_69

Who knows what the General Lee even stands for? If you remember watching the lastest movie of the DOH. In a scene hey were driving through Atlanta and people were saying nice car you bunch of racists due to the rebel flag on top of it. Yeah, case and point, why did it become so popular if people don't know the real meaning behind it? I'm not going to get into the political side of the rebel flag and crap, I just think its ridiculous. I did meet Boss Hogg at a car show here back in 1985 had my photo taken with him as well, even he said, don't build a DOH charger, I laughed and said no worries. I watched the TV show, but hated the fact they destroyed so many cars and now they are even more popular, eesh.....Warner Bros. even contacted me about buying three of my chargers during the TV series, but not at 5 grand a piece they said,its because they're not for sale for that crap I said!
Mark
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69grad

 With all due respect for the South, No general lee for me ! :smilielol:

ChargerSG

 :popcrn: but its fuckt up that they have destroyed allot of Chargers with that serie, i had been better if they took a Camaro for that serie :D
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skip68

Quote from: ChargerSG on September 12, 2007, 05:25:13 PM
:popcrn: but its fuckt up that they have destroyed allot of Chargers with that serie, i had been better if they took a Camaro for that serie :D
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Keep in mind these cars were cheap back then and nobody wanted them.  I remember back in 1987, my buddy had a 68 R/T that we cruised to school in and he was going to sell it to me for $900.  The car looked good and ran good but he had a scamp he wanted to fix and drive instead.  But yes it is sad so many cars got an early grave.   Chuck.....
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Sabre

Quote from: dads_69 on September 12, 2007, 03:41:13 PM
Who knows what the General Lee even stands for? If you remember watching the lastest movie of the DOH. In a scene hey were driving through Atlanta and people were saying nice car you bunch of racists due to the rebel flag on top of it. Yeah, case and point, why did it become so popular if people don't know the real meaning behind it? I'm not going to get into the political side of the rebel flag and crap, I just think its ridiculous. I did meet Boss Hogg at a car show here back in 1985 had my photo taken with him as well, even he said, don't build a DOH charger, I laughed and said no worries. I watched the TV show, but hated the fact they destroyed so many cars and now they are even more popular, eesh.....Warner Bros. even contacted me about buying three of my chargers during the TV series, but not at 5 grand a piece they said,its because they're not for sale for that crap I said!
Mark

People shouldn't be offended with the General Lee, as the real General Robert E. Lee opposed slavery yet fought for the south.  The Dukes named their car in honor of a that man.  There is nothing racist about it.

Sabre

Quote from: RECHRGD on September 12, 2007, 03:18:19 PM
The 2nd generation Chargers were pretty much marketed as a gentlemans' muscle car.  They were a bit more expensive and had more of an air of class about them than say, a roadrunner at the time.  I bought my first '68 when it was new.  Long before that silly show was even thought of.  As far as the car being recognized as a bad-ass muscle car, I think the 1968 movie Bullitt had alot to do with that.  In fact, that movie might have been the trigger to have them consider the Charger for that show.  Anyway, considering the good-ol-boy theme of the show, I think the roadrunner would have been a better fit.  But that's just me, I come from another time.  As far as "too many" GL's--I don't really care, one way or the other.  Hell, my current Charger is a clone of the one I had in '68.   Bob

True "Bullit"  also showed off the second gen Chargers as a bad ass car.  I'm just saying a weekly t.v. show that aired for 7 years definitely helped boost the bad *assness* of the car.  From what I heard the 69 Charger was chosen for a couple of reasons. 

1.  It was a unibody car, which was better for the stuntmen
2.  It had NASCAR racing heritage

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YO, FOR ALL YOU HATERS...BE FOR REAL! EVERYBODY LOVES A JENNY LEE!!!

Sabre

Quote from: skip68 on September 12, 2007, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: ChargerSG on September 12, 2007, 05:25:13 PM
:popcrn: but its fuckt up that they have destroyed allot of Chargers with that serie, i had been better if they took a Camaro for that serie :D
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Keep in mind these cars were cheap back then and nobody wanted them.  I remember back in 1987, my buddy had a 68 R/T that we cruised to school in and he was going to sell it to me for $900.  The car looked good and ran good but he had a scamp he wanted to fix and drive instead.  But yes it is sad so many cars got an early grave.   Chuck.....

Also when the show started the 69 Charger was only 10 years old at the time.  They really didnt' think about the Charger someday being so valuable.  Think about it this way, say a new t.v. series is starting to film this year.  This show will feature car stunts, and they decide to use a 1997 Camaro.  Same thing with the Dukes, at the time the car wasn't a classic yet, just a 10 year old muscle car.

dads_69

Quote from: Sabre on September 12, 2007, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: dads_69 on September 12, 2007, 03:41:13 PM
Who knows what the General Lee even stands for? If you remember watching the lastest movie of the DOH. In a scene hey were driving through Atlanta and people were saying nice car you bunch of racists due to the rebel flag on top of it. Yeah, case and point, why did it become so popular if people don't know the real meaning behind it? I'm not going to get into the political side of the rebel flag and crap, I just think its ridiculous. I did meet Boss Hogg at a car show here back in 1985 had my photo taken with him as well, even he said, don't build a DOH charger, I laughed and said no worries. I watched the TV show, but hated the fact they destroyed so many cars and now they are even more popular, eesh.....Warner Bros. even contacted me about buying three of my chargers during the TV series, but not at 5 grand a piece they said,its because they're not for sale for that crap I said!
Mark

People shouldn't be offended with the General Lee, as the real General Robert E. Lee opposed slavery yet fought for the south.  The Dukes named their car in honor of a that man.  There is nothing racist about it.
You'd best do some  more home work then about why American's and others oppose the rebel flag then. Watch the movie also for instance, you'll see what I'm talking about. My point again, I wouldn't drive around in an orange car or any color car/truck w/a rebel flag on the roof or anywhere else on the car/truck for that matter. Its stupid.
Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

Sabre

Quote from: dads_69 on September 12, 2007, 06:31:36 PM
Quote from: Sabre on September 12, 2007, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: dads_69 on September 12, 2007, 03:41:13 PM
Who knows what the General Lee even stands for? If you remember watching the lastest movie of the DOH. In a scene hey were driving through Atlanta and people were saying nice car you bunch of racists due to the rebel flag on top of it. Yeah, case and point, why did it become so popular if people don't know the real meaning behind it? I'm not going to get into the political side of the rebel flag and crap, I just think its ridiculous. I did meet Boss Hogg at a car show here back in 1985 had my photo taken with him as well, even he said, don't build a DOH charger, I laughed and said no worries. I watched the TV show, but hated the fact they destroyed so many cars and now they are even more popular, eesh.....Warner Bros. even contacted me about buying three of my chargers during the TV series, but not at 5 grand a piece they said,its because they're not for sale for that crap I said!
Mark



People shouldn't be offended with the General Lee, as the real General Robert E. Lee opposed slavery yet fought for the south.  The Dukes named their car in honor of a that man.  There is nothing racist about it.
You'd best do some  more home work then about why American's and others oppose the rebel flag then. Watch the movie also for instance, you'll see what I'm talking about. My point again, I wouldn't drive around in an orange car or any color car/truck w/a rebel flag on the roof or anywhere else on the car/truck for that matter. Its stupid.
Mark

I've done all the homework on the rebel flag.  I realize some people find it offensive.  These same people believe if someone flies that flag that means they're a racist.  That isn't the case though.  As for the movie it was horrible, yes in the movie the Dukes got a 50/50 opinion on the flag.

As I stated early the car is named in honor of General Robert E. Lee who opposed slavery yet fought for the south.  There is nothing racist about that.  Yes the flag is still there but again just because someone displays the flag doesn't make them a racist.  The guys over at the Confederate General Lee Fan club have gotten nothing but thumbs up from African Americans when they drive around in their General Lee's.

dads_69

I agree w/you about Robert E. Lee being against slavery. But if you questioned 100 people about how they feel about a rebel flag on a car or home front yard, how many do you think would jump to the conclusion that they are being hatefull racists? I'm going go with the answer being high on the against the rebel flag side. I myself am not a racist, I wasn't brought up that way. I understand why the flag is on the car, but I'm sure not gonna try to explain it to the guy who says, hey man, want your ass kicked for having the flag on your car! This is the 21st century, crap like that still happens unfortunately. Do I like the looks of the DOH charger,no.
I'm done speaking my  :Twocents:............
Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

Dodge Don

Jump them all into the grand canyon and be done with it.  :brickwall:

Sabre

Quote from: dads_69 on September 12, 2007, 06:49:57 PM
I agree w/you about Robert E. Lee being against slavery. But if you questioned 100 people about how they feel about a rebel flag on a car or home front yard, how many do you think would jump to the conclusion that they are being hatefull racists? I'm going go with the answer being high on the against the rebel flag side. I myself am not a racist, I wasn't brought up that way. I understand why the flag is on the car, but I'm sure not gonna try to explain it to the guy who says, hey man, want your ass kicked for having the flag on your car! This is the 21st century, crap like that still happens unfortunately. Do I like the looks of the DOH charger,no.
I'm done speaking my  :Twocents:............
Mark

I disagree that the majority would think the flag is racist and those flying it are racists.  There have been polls asking Americans of their viewpoint on the flag.  In fact I found this poll rather quickly.  According to the poll posted on youdebate.com 61.71% believe the flag is not a symbol of racism.  While only 38.29% said yes.  Those who believe the flag is a symbol of racism are in the minority.  I've seen other polls as well with similar results.
http://www.youdebate.com/DEBATES/confederate_flag.HTM?survey

Is the Confederate Flag a Symbol of Racism?

NO: 61.71%

YES: 38.29%

All of the General Lee owners over at the Confederate General Lee fan club having nothing but thumbs up from African Americans.  Last summer a General Lee replica was at the local DMV.  I was taking a lunch break and went over to check out the car.  Two African American men walked up to the car and thought it looked cool. 

I have heard some negative feedback towards the General Lee, but it's very rare.  Those who dislike the car soley because of the flag are the type of people I'm talking about.  They automatically believe if you fly the flag, support the flag, or drive around in your car with a flag on it you're a racist.  These people are ignorant fools.  I also have never heard of anyone getting attacked because they had the flag on their car. 

Take a look at these pics.  That car the gentlemen is in is his own General Lee.




dads_69

To make this short and sweet. I would just hate to see won of our members on line here have his car trashed or beaten up by some (fools) per-say due to the fact the DOH car having the rebel flag on it. Like you said, live by flag, not everyone does, its those who do that make it bad for the rest. Its like a cafe style motorcycle, I love 'em, I've owned 2 myself. I rode w/respect for the law and the machine. But there were always a group of guys that rode like a'holes and it would make the newspaper, everyone who rides a cafe style street bike should be banned from the highways. I hated that reading that. When I got married, my wife said no more street bikes, to many deaths and dangerous as well. So I collect dirt bikes now instead!
Man, my fingers are typed out, hahahaha...........
Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

Mike DC

 
QuoteI would just hate to see won of our members on line here have his car trashed or beaten up by some (fools) per-say due to the fact the DOH car having the rebel flag on it.

I get what you're saying and all, but a lot of the GL replicas out there would still be in scrapyards if nobody was allowed to paint flags on them.  Fixing vandalsim damage is a hell of a small price to pay for adding another Charger to the hobby overall.

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I've driven my GL around in public for thousands of miles. 

In the real world, a rebel flag on the top of an orange Charger is basically treated like a separate category from a rebel flag displayed in any other situation.  I'm serious.  Virtually EVERYBODY recognizes it as the TV show character regardless of race, age, urban/rural, etc.  Most people just don't identify the "General Lee" itself with racism issues, even when some might question the flag itself. 

By and large, the biggest response the flag gets this:  "Umm . . . I personally don't mind, but aren't you worried that other people do?" 
Everyone thinks someone ELSE probably cares, but the "others" never actually turn up. 

       

jmeekins33



I could give a s**t less if people are offended by the rebel flag or the General Lee.  I don't live my life according to what other people think.

I think that censorship in the form of political correctness has some people convinced that they have a right not to be offended.  They are mistaken.  In fact, according to the constitution of the United States of America, it's quite the opposite.