buttons on the seats coming off

peter73charger · August 17, 2007, 10:31:02 AM

On my 1973 Charger the buttons on the seats keep coming off. I have snapped them back on but my fat butt when I twist to get out - well they come off. My wife says that at 250lbs that is the problem. I was going to put a dab of clear caulking under the button before I snap them on again - but decided I better check first. Peter Thielman -= Napanee, Ontario Canada

Charger1973 · August 17, 2007, 01:51:23 PM

Are they stock or reproduction seat covers? (How do the buttons attach?)

Mike DC · August 17, 2007, 09:54:17 PM

Legendary's buttons on '69 Charger seats have been falling off for at least the last decade. They'll give you every excuse under the sun if you call them about it, but the bottom line is that they've known all about the issue for years and they show no signs of ever doing anything about it.

Maybe it's the same issue with your '73 seats if they're reproductions.

jwc · August 17, 2007, 10:14:25 PM

I have a 73 and have the same problem with the buttons.Mine also came from legandery.Have 5 buttons missing and only been on less then a year.

JrJohnston · August 18, 2007, 10:54:36 AM

I have had that problem,but I make all the button's that go an .It's not just the covers from Legendary,PUI is the worst of the bunch,I put a set of there cover's on and 4 of the button's were in the bottom of the box.What I have been doing is putting a little silicone between the button cap and the base,to hold them together and then take the retainer and flatten out the center to tighten it up and so far it has been working.

Mike DC · August 18, 2007, 09:32:36 PM

I've taken to just not putting the buttons on in the first place. They usually just send you the buttons separately in a little plastic bag with the seatcovers.

The perfection of having the little buttons isn't worth the aggravation of the buttons never staying on. (And it's not like those buttons make it any more comfortable.)

Charger1973 · August 18, 2007, 09:36:15 PM

The buttons on my seats were already installed and they attach to the seat foam to help hold the seat covers in place. I wouldnt want to install them without or they wouldnt fit right.

71charger_fan · August 18, 2007, 09:56:25 PM

My covers are from Legendary and the buttons are constantly coming off. Every couple of years or so, I pull the seat out and replace the buttons. Then the cycle begins again.

JimShine · August 18, 2007, 11:37:34 PM

Same problem here. One came off the first time the seat was sat in. Now all are missing. I am glad on my personal car I went with no buttons. The seats look baggier, but I will live with that over the metal button stumps.

Charger1973 · August 18, 2007, 11:58:37 PM

Maybe someone can reproduce just the buttons with a design that wont come apart?

mysil bergsprekken · September 21, 2011, 12:40:37 AM

Same problem here! The plastic/synthetic covers keeps falling off the lower metal piece on the button and the metal piece is sticking up.
Anyone know of where to buy new buttons that I can put in instead ??

twodko · September 21, 2011, 11:02:41 AM

Yep, same here with my 69's Legendary covers. I tried a dab of epoxy but they still came off. They do sell covers without the buttons but it's a stick in craw to pay twice for covers.

Brock Lee · September 21, 2011, 12:04:01 PM

Quote from: JimShine on August 18, 2007, 11:37:34 PM
but I will live with that over the metal button stumps.

Perfect description!

ODZKing · September 21, 2011, 01:48:02 PM

Mine came off while installing the covers. If you call them and tell them you are dissatisfied, basically all they will do is send you more buttons. But they will.

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on August 17, 2007, 09:54:17 PM

Legendary's buttons on '69 Charger seats have been falling off for at least the last decade. They'll give you every excuse under the sun if you call them about it, but the bottom line is that they've known all about the issue for years and they show no signs of ever doing anything about it.

Maybe it's the same issue with your '73 seats if they're reproductions.

twodko · September 21, 2011, 08:10:55 PM

I didn't know that. I'll contact them most rickytik myself........some extra buttons will be more than I have now.

Bobs69 · September 21, 2011, 09:29:13 PM

The first thing I thought of was "legendary interiors!"

Glad to see it's not just me.

In Napanee Ontario eh? I'm closer to Brockville myself.

mysil bergsprekken · September 21, 2011, 10:11:52 PM

I didn't see buttons listed in their catalog. (Legendary Interiors) But I sendt them an e mail request.

69rtse4spd · September 26, 2011, 07:48:22 PM

Quote from: Charger1973 on August 18, 2007, 11:58:37 PM
Maybe someone can reproduce just the buttons with a design that wont come apart?

Ah, a new challenge, let me see what I can come up with. Might be asking some of you to be guinea pigs.

ODZKing · September 26, 2011, 08:58:46 PM

Quote from: mysil bergsprekken on September 21, 2011, 10:11:52 PM
I didn't see buttons listed in their catalog. (Legendary Interiors) But I sendt them an e mail request.

Public relations. Here is who you need to e-mail.
edetaeye@legendaryautointeriors.com

mysil bergsprekken · September 28, 2011, 04:48:09 AM

Quote from: 69rtse4spd on September 26, 2011, 07:48:22 PM
Quote from: Charger1973 on August 18, 2007, 11:58:37 PM
Maybe someone can reproduce just the buttons with a design that wont come apart?

Ah, a new challenge, let me see what I can come up with. Might be asking some of you to be guinea pigs.

So you can manufacture the buttons? That would be great. I'm sure there is a need for these, since it seems a lot of people have the same issues with them.

mysil bergsprekken · September 28, 2011, 04:49:26 AM

Quote from: mysil bergsprekken on September 28, 2011, 04:48:09 AM
Quote from: 69rtse4spd on September 26, 2011, 07:48:22 PM
Quote from: Charger1973 on August 18, 2007, 11:58:37 PM
Maybe someone can reproduce just the buttons with a design that wont come apart?

Ah, a new challenge, let me see what I can come up with. Might be asking some of you to be guinea pigs.

So you can manufacture the buttons? That would be great. I'm sure there is a need for these, since it seems a lot of people have the same issues with them.

Thanks, I will give them/it a go aswell.

hemi68charger · September 28, 2011, 08:04:09 AM

M Daytona has done that three times................ I solved the problem, scoured the universe for original buttons from seats people were junking out inlew of new seat covers. The originals are FAR more surperior than any reproduction. Actually, just replaced one yesterday and will replace another today then the final seat will go back into the Daytona. When I took them out recently to replace the carpet, it was a good opportunity to swap out.

But, I did attempt to fix one of those reproduction buttons I had. I cut away some of the excess vinyl material on the button with a very sharp exacto-blade being careful not to get too much. Then, I set the backing portion (part with the retaining tabs) and pressed in as far as I could into the button. Then, I took a small punch and hammered the backing into the button some more. This forced the backing tab deeper into the button and it was pretty solid this time. We'll see what happens in the near future.

Cheers and good luck..
Troy

71charger · October 02, 2011, 06:00:43 PM

mine stay on......... gotta love them stock buttons!

RallyeMike · October 06, 2011, 01:34:50 AM

I think the first time I complained about this to Legendary was about 1994 for the seats in my 74 Rallye. Forward 17 years later .....They could have fixed this years ago by having the correct buttons made, but they pretty much don't care because they are nearly the only game in town.

sanders7981 · October 12, 2011, 09:16:58 PM

I am not looking forward to this... I am going to use legendary when I order my interior components, but I don't want to deal with buttons coming off. Glad I kept my original seat buttons, maybe I can dye them to match saddle tan.

Dino · October 13, 2011, 07:20:51 AM

Quote from: sanders7981 on October 12, 2011, 09:16:58 PM
I am not looking forward to this... I am going to use legendary when I order my interior components, but I don't want to deal with buttons coming off. Glad I kept my original seat buttons, maybe I can dye them to match saddle tan.

Yeah I'm not looking forward to this either and the front seats were already redone on mine so there's no buttons to save. I do have the ones from the rear seat although one is gone and it's the original.

There must be a way to secure those suckers so they stay on, I can't believe Legendary doesn't put a little more effort into solving this issue.

Carrnutt · November 08, 2011, 08:22:47 PM

Aww crap!

You guys are saying I've been holding my kids accountable for nothing?

Oh well I'm sure they've done something else I just haven't caught them at yet...

ODZKing · May 08, 2014, 08:50:51 AM

Was there any new solution to this? I had another pop off last night.
Gonna cost me to have the seats pulled apart and redone replacing the buttons. I have a bag full but this is a pain.

twodko · May 08, 2014, 11:06:53 AM

I posted a thread about this a few months back. I put Legendary upholstery in
my car and had the same issue with the buttons coming off.

It's been four years since that purchase but I called them up, they found my order
and sent me a half dozen new buttons no charge.

Only the button caps came off mine. I cut a slit halfway through a 5x7 index card
and slipped it under the button body to protect the seat cover. I pulled caps off the new buttons
and spread a very light coat of clear Gorilla glue on the inside edge of the cap using a toothpick.
Then I just position the cap over the button body and pressed it in place
using a smooth jaw diagonal tip needle nose plier. I removed the card right after.

This glue is a bit thick like Elmer's white glue with a workable open time.

ACUDANUT · May 08, 2014, 11:44:43 AM

Imo, buttons on a car seat is just a bad idea. I see no benefit at all.

ODZKing · May 08, 2014, 11:53:48 AM

I think I know the Gorilla Glue you are referring to, kind of white in color and like Elmers as you say. I believe have some. That is very helpful, unlike some other responses.
How long did you let it sit?

Quote from: twodko on May 08, 2014, 11:06:53 AM
I posted a thread about this a few months back. I put Legendary upholstery in
my car and had the same issue with the buttons coming off.

It's been four years since that purchase but I called them up, they found my order
and sent me a half dozen new buttons no charge.

Only the button caps came off mine. I cut a slit halfway through a 5x7 index card
and slipped it under the button body to protect the seat cover. I pulled caps off the new buttons
and spread a very light coat of clear Gorilla glue on the inside edge of the cap using a toothpick.
Then I just position the cap over the button body and pressed it in place
using a smooth jaw diagonal tip needle nose plier. I removed the card right after.

This glue is a bit thick like Elmer's white glue with a workable open time.

twodko · May 08, 2014, 01:16:36 PM

Actually this stuff is clear, comes in a little squeeze bottle in the super glue section.
It's open time is several minutes but once you press the button caps on they won't migrate
back up. At least mine didn't. The compression fit is pretty snug. I did mine one day several weeks back
detailing the interior for an event. I didn't sit in the car until the next day but I think
letting the stuff cure overnight would be prudent.

ODZKing · May 08, 2014, 01:39:57 PM

This is the stuff I know I have. Came in a 2 pac of the bottle and a small squeeze tube of Gorilla brand Super Glue ... or what ever, from Lowes.
Anyway, I am fairly certain this dries kind of white-ish-tan.
In any case, I'll give it a try. The worst is, they come off

Thing is I can't see taking everything apart to replace with the same crappy buttons that are going to do the same.

ACUDANUT · May 08, 2014, 02:48:55 PM

Buttons get caught on everything.

timmycharger · May 08, 2014, 02:50:06 PM

Quote from: ODZKing on May 08, 2014, 01:39:57 PM
This is the stuff I know I have. Came in a 2 pac of the bottle and a small squeeze tube of Gorilla brand Super Glue ... or what ever, from Lowes.
Anyway, I am fairly certain this dries kind of white-ish-tan.
In any case, I'll give it a try. The worst is, they come off
Thing is I can't see taking everything apart to replace with the same crappy buttons that are going to do the same.

I prefer to use SHOE GOO, available at Rite Aid, I swear I could fix the space shuttle with this stuff...

twodko · May 08, 2014, 06:39:04 PM

That's the same stuff, I just have the clear variety.

Agree about ShooGoo.......it's like duct tape in a tube.

ODZKing · May 09, 2014, 07:40:17 AM

Well, I did it last night, well see. If that doesn't work, I'll try the shoe goo stuff.

twodko · May 12, 2014, 08:20:41 PM

How'd it go? Mine have survived my jug butt so far.

ODZKing · May 12, 2014, 09:19:21 PM

Yep, we went for a club cruise to the FX Matts/Saranac brewery on Saturday and it held. Squeezing it on, I made a couple little marks in it, but it held.
Thanks so much. Now I know it can be done.

twodko · May 13, 2014, 10:59:45 AM

Those marks are quite possibly my fault.

One key bit of info that slipped my feeble mind was that I wrapped the jaws
of my diagonal needle nose pliers with blue painter's tape. I'm sorry I
forgot to include this tip.

Tom

ODZKing · May 13, 2014, 04:38:49 PM

Hey, is what it is Tom. I have a feeling it won't be forever anyway. At least they're on for now.

EccentricMagpies · May 21, 2014, 03:12:42 PM

I finally had a chance to get my car out of storage this past weekend. I looked at the buttons and I do not see any missing.

Maybe I just don't get my car out as often as others on here?

I bought new covers about 3 years ago

twodko · May 21, 2014, 05:21:17 PM

That's good news! If my replacements don't hold up my plan is to find out if Legendary will
sell me just the seat bottom upholstery. It's only the buttons here that come off in my car not the back rests
and the seats look awful with the caps missing.

HANDM · May 26, 2014, 01:02:20 PM

It's not so much that they pop off, which of course, they have, for me it's the ones on the seat back always digging into my bony spine!

Ghoste · May 26, 2014, 02:00:21 PM

I don't have an issue with the buttons on my spine but I'll tell you what, if you think the buttons are bad, try driving a couple hundred miles in hot humid weather in a 67 Charger! Those seat back ornaments in them are absolute killers. I left them off when I redid the seats in my 67.

ODZKing · May 26, 2014, 09:26:37 PM

Quote from: Ghoste on May 26, 2014, 02:00:21 PM
I don't have an issue with the buttons on my spine but I'll tell you what, if you think the buttons are bad, try driving a couple hundred miles in hot humid weather in a 67 Charger! Those seat back ornaments in them are absolute killers. I left them off when I redid the seats in my 67.

Got them on mine and they are not a problem at all. You must have installed them with out having them recessed.
Even so, we've never had a issue at all.

Ghoste · May 27, 2014, 05:41:44 AM

I didn't install them, I left them off. It was the Dodge installation that was biting me.

ODZKing · May 27, 2014, 08:15:08 AM

Quote from: Ghoste on May 27, 2014, 05:41:44 AM
I didn't install them, I left them off. It was the Dodge installation that was biting me.

Rear seats are original, you can see the difference. After some years those tabs sort of loosen up. They should be recessed if the foam is not compressed.

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