Survivor

[JMF]

Anyone know this car? Quite an interesting Charger

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-CHARGER-RT-440-DOCUMENTED-UNRESTORED-2-BUILD-SHEET_W0QQitemZ330154633925QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6199QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Forza]

I've seen that around before. It's just incredible what shape that is in. What a beautiful charger, hard to believe its a survivor. It's amazing that it looks better then most restored chargers, but it being a supposed survivor and not having a ding or even a blimish in paint after 39 years just doesn't seem legit.

[1972Rallye]

Very interesting.... Blue engine?  I thought performance engines were orange.

[70charger_boy]

That car has made a tour on ebay for a long time now.  The seller of that car, pureoctaine, is the shadiest son of a bitch out there.  He use to have a shop in the bronx and would lie his ass off about cars having matching numbers.  Usually, when he lies about a car he has a low asking price.   It has the aftermarket 500 wheels and new tires, but it might be legit. 

[Charger-Bodie]

Very interesting.... Blue engine?  I thought performance engines were orange.

that is the correct color for a 68 440, 69 s were orange but 68 was turquoise.

[dodgecharger-fan]

new gas tank?? 

[Brock Samson]

interesting, i didn't know there was such a thing as an antenna delete... 

[hemi68charger]

interesting, i didn't know there was such a thing as an antenna delete... 

What !!??  and it has a radio?...... come on....... Someone enlighten me on this one..............  I don't think so..........

[41husk]

I smell a rat!!

[Troy]

interesting, i didn't know there was such a thing as an antenna delete... 

What !!??  and it has a radio?...... come on....... Someone enlighten me on this one..............  I don't think so..........

Keep reading, it has a dealer installed power rear antenna. I have no idea what was available but it's GG approved... 

Troy

[GeneralLeeTESH]

Maybe the HELL-Peg boyz should but it ! Yeeeeeee Haweeee!!!!

[Brock Samson]

i read that too Troy, but when was the last time anyone found a charger or any car with an "antenna delete option".
I've been into these Mopars since 1966, and i've never ever heard of a fully loaded car with a premium stereo minus an antenna..
it simply does not add up. 

[Chris G.]

I've been into these Mopars since 1966, and i've never ever heard of a fully loaded car with a premium stereo minus an antenna..
it simply does not add up. 

The car could have been a radio delete car, which would mean no cutout in the fender for the antenna. Or, it had the fender replaced at some point (probably very early on). I don't care what the write up says. You aren't getting a radio with no antenna on the fender. The dealer installed thing sounds like a story, but whatever.

Call me crazy, but 79K for that car wouldn't be that bad if it truly is the real deal. It would be cool if he had pics of when it was found at the fire house.

ps- Is that a rear sway bar?

[Troy]

Yes, rear sway bar too. If I could read all that paperwork it would be handy. That car is the only other bronze 68 that I've seen with a white top (mine is the first). The paint is really washed out looking in the pictures but you can see the true color in the trunk and engine bay. It has a black interior though which matches almost all of the other bronze cars (mine and a Hemi car that's local to me have white). That would be a cool one to find but I can't afford to buy it at that price.

Troy

[70charger_boy]

Yes, rear sway bar too. If I could read all that paperwork it would be handy. That car is the only other bronze 68 that I've seen with a white top (mine is the first). The paint is really washed out looking in the pictures but you can see the true color in the trunk and engine bay. It has a black interior though which matches almost all of the other bronze cars (mine and a Hemi car that's local to me have white). That would be a cool one to find but I can't afford to buy it at that price.

Troy

Troy has no money???  Sell some of those hedge funds

[MichaelRW]

The original owner was a 19 year old dentist? What did he do, graduate from high school at the age of 12.?

[Brock Samson]

        

[70charger_boy]

I told you guys that ebay seller pureoctaine is full of BS every single car he sells.  As a matter of fact, there are a few posts on this site about the cars he was selling

[Argos_Chargers]

As far as the antenna delete goes, I know that was an option in '66 where the dealer would install an antenna in the rear.  I have a friend who did that with his '66 (not ordered that way) to replicate what he thought was a really cool dealer option

[Brock Samson]

  isn't there a way to ask the seller a question?.

should we pile on?.. 

[no318]

Yes, rear sway bar too. If I could read all that paperwork it would be handy. That car is the only other bronze 68 that I've seen with a white top (mine is the first). The paint is really washed out looking in the pictures but you can see the true color in the trunk and engine bay. It has a black interior though which matches almost all of the other bronze cars (mine and a Hemi car that's local to me have white). That would be a cool one to find but I can't afford to buy it at that price.

Troy

My 68 RT is (was and will be, currently in primer) turbine bronze with white top, stripe and interior.  Black dash, carpet and console. 

I really think this is an attractive car, but there are a few too many ?'s for my liking.  (And, I agree, I can't afford it.)  USUALLY where there smoke there is fire.

[squeakfinder]

Looking at the rear view of the car.

There is an antenna on the dutchman panel, passenger side,

[JimShine]

What about the gas tank? It has the original straps with the undercoating on them, but the tank along the straps is clean. The original tanks I have had the undercoating was sprayed in a strip along the straps with the undercoat creating approximately a 1 inch boarder on each side on the tank.

[konigcharger]

As far as the antenna delete goes, I know that was an option in '66 where the dealer would install an antenna in the rear.  I have a friend who did that with his '66 (not ordered that way) to replicate what he thought was a really cool dealer option

it was an option on 71 Cuda's the GG signed off on this one

[69bronzeT5]

It says "THAT HAS BEEN IN STORAGE SINCE 1971" and "UNTIL 1971 WHEN AFTER PURCHASING SOME OTHER VEHICLES THE CAR WAS PLACED IN STORAGE AT A FIRE HOUSE UNTIL DISCOVERED DECADES LATER AS AN UNDISTURBED SLEEPING BEAUTY FULL OF DUST,"


but yet he also states "2 MAGAZINES" which look pretty damn recent...late 90s/early 2000s? and "CAR HAS BEEN ON DISPLAY ON BEHALF OF MOPAR AT NUMEROUS EVENTS".



How can the car be in storage since 71 but yet be in shows and magazines? Call me stupid but I find something fishy about that

[Troy]

Yes, rear sway bar too. If I could read all that paperwork it would be handy. That car is the only other bronze 68 that I've seen with a white top (mine is the first). The paint is really washed out looking in the pictures but you can see the true color in the trunk and engine bay. It has a black interior though which matches almost all of the other bronze cars (mine and a Hemi car that's local to me have white). That would be a cool one to find but I can't afford to buy it at that price.

Troy

My 68 RT is (was and will be, currently in primer) turbine bronze with white top, stripe and interior.  Black dash, carpet and console. 

I really think this is an attractive car, but there are a few too many ?'s for my liking.  (And, I agree, I can't afford it.)  USUALLY where there smoke there is fire.

That's cool! So, you build yours first and then I'll see if I like it. Yours is an R/T and mine is a non-numbers matching 318 car. Incidentally, all of the other bronze 68s that I've seen are R/Ts. I was going to restore it back to the fender tag (except for the engine) because I thought it would be unique. I guess not.

Troy

[dkn1997]

When that car was in MCG years ago, it had white pleats in the seats and bright neon red paint on the "rt" part of the emblems.  the dentist/firehouse part of the story is the exact same as what's in mcg.  I have the mag at home, I will scan it when I get back from vacation. 

There was a whole story about how the original owner did not order the white pleats, and refused to pay for them.  If it's the same car, then it's legit as far as being a survivor.  I don't know about the options.

[Mike DC]

 
Looks like a good parts donor.

 

[Charger_Fan]

 
Looks like a good parts donor.

 

[Nacho-RT74]

don't you think there is something weird about alternator mounting brackets ?

[dkn1997]

Found the article, May 1999 Mopar Collectors guide.  no scanner, though.  Has to be the same car, the story is too close.  and it was not a 19 year old dentist who bought it originally, it was a 19 year old dental student...also he did paint the defrost vents dayglo orange along with the emblems and rigged up little lights to make the vents glow when the headlights were turned on.  he also purchased new emblems from the dealer to replace the dayglow ones that he painted.  definately had every other pleat in seats replaced with white too.  somehow that got fixed since 1999. The dealer also redyed the vinyl top pearl white too.  so if that top in there now is the factory white, then it's not original.  although mcg only has 2 color photos of the car, they show the seat pleats and the orange emblems.  also probably a typo, but mcg article said 56K miles, and ebay add says 53K. 

Dave Ferro of Totally Auto bought the car from the original owner according to the article. Interestingly, kids in the dentists neighborhood used to make fun of him the way he babied it and called the car the "sugar cube"

When dave got it, he replaced he wheels and tires with 15" magnums.  also the exhaust was shot so he put borlas on there.  he saved the original date coded mufflers.  also , brakes rebuilt, car tuned up and hidden electronic ignition installed and article said he planned to drive it.

I will see if my father in law can scan the article for me and I will post it. tons of info about the car.  I vote legit

[dkn1997]

QUITE LITERALLY THIS YOUNG MAN CHECKED OFF EVERY OPTION BOX ON THE LIST JUST SHORT OF GETTING A HEMI & CRUISE CONTROL, THE OWNER WAS YOUNG AND INTO DATING HE OPTED OUT ON THE CENTER CONSOLE, THAN THE BOY WENT A LITTLE NUTS ON THE GADGETS, ALL THE ITEMS ABOVE PLUS LOCKING GAS CAP, LIGHT PACKAGE, ROAD WHEELS, TIC-TOC-TACH, DUAL MIRRORS, WHEEL OPENING MOLDINGS,

this statement by the ebay seller is pretty much a copy/paste from the article too.

In 1999, this car was also sporting it's original vanity plates that said "68-rt"   where are they?  I think they would be sort of a cool selling point, no?