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For the General Lee Fans and others, this is 1 of the 17

Started by 8WHEELER, July 31, 2007, 02:56:07 AM

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8WHEELER

This is my friend Jim's ''REAL'' unrestored 1 of the 17 GL sold by Warner Brothers. He got a call
from Wayne Wooten, that had to find 15 other people interested in buying the General's, stuck
out in the desert, because Wayne only wanted one, but Warner Brothers would only sell them
at one shot to one person. So now the rest is history, he sold his white 69 Charger and got the
General he thought he would never get, now he would never sell.

This is one General Lee I actually have total respect for, he has not done one thing to
the body work ''except wax it 20 times a year''  ;D and we put new heads on the 383
and a few minor interior things, but that is about it.

I have been to over 100 shows with Jim, and cruises, so I finally decided to take some
pics to put on this site. Yes this is the only one on the west coast, and I will leave it
at that. these Generals that actually were used for stunts in the TV series that survived
for the most part, the value is becoming unbelievably. Even though it is a very rough car, it
will never be restored by Jim, it would take history out of the car and value. This car
gets more attention at any car show than pretty much any other car there, it is truly
amazing.

Anyway, Jim wanted a picture of me in front of his car after all these years, and I have
worked on it in my garage. So for those interested I am the one in the wheel chair
and Jim would be the other guy with more grey hair than me   :pity: :pity: I was taller
than him when we first met in 1984 I 'was 6'2'' and fit, ooops what happened   :shruggy:

NOTE THE LICENCE PLATE..............

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

8WHEELER

Note the fact it came from the factory a 68 Charger ''no reverse lights''  like so many GL were.

Yes all the dents and scratches are courtesy of Warner Brothers, and will stay there.

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Arthu®

Very cool car! The dents and scratches give it character and it's a piece of history. I always watched the DoH when I was a kid and that is what got me into Mopars, so the car has a special place.

Arthur
Striving for world domination since 1986

Mike DC

 
For those of you who aren't super-keen on the details of real LEEs, look hard at the black area right above each taillight. 

You can see riveted-in sheetmetal patches over the holes for the 1968 taillights that the car originally had.

TruckDriver

I don't really care for all the General Lee clone cars (way to many of them) as most of you know, but I DO respect this car as it is the real deal :yesnod:   I agree, the scratches give the car carecter :2thumbs:    All thing considered, the car is still in very nice shape.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

THE COLONEL

That is beautiful, and what great photos.  I commened him on keeping it the way it was from the show.  That is nothing but respect there!!! :yesnod:
"THE COLONEL....DIFFERENT RANK...SAME ATTITUDE"

70charger_boy

Yee-Haww those pics brought a tear to my eyes.  That car looks great.  I really hope your friend keeps it forever.

PocketThunder

"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

warriorbass05

Dan, thanks for posting these pics....you rock my brother!!! Do you know which General by number this is? There should be a "WGL" number etched into either the windshield, rear window or somewhere on the dash that tells what number car is was for WB...

tomonty

That is awesome. I, like many others, grew up watching the Dukes, which is the reason I love Mopars so much. It is great to see that the car is just how it was used on the show. Thanks for the pics again :2thumbs:

Mike
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7chargers

Great pics and respect for the car and the owner for keeping it the way it was so many years ago. Just woundering what size rims are on that original GL? They look like 15x7 but you always here that they used 14x7? Just couroius and also I heard they used alot of 1968's converted into 69's any one know what the ratio was? Thanks again for the posting awsome!! :2thumbs:

Charger1973

I have total respect for that guy and his car.  Thats too cool.   :2thumbs:

BTW Im sending you a PM...

Charger-Bodie

it would be really cool to know what episodes it was used in !
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firefighter3931

I knew it.....you're a closet GL luver !   :nana:


Quote from: 8WHEELER on July 31, 2007, 02:56:07 AM
This is one General Lee I actually have total respect for


I find this statement very disturbing  :D  :lol:




Ron


Ps. Cool pics Danno..... :2thumbs:
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scatpack69

I had the chance to ride in Jim's car a few times. He is a nice guy.  :2thumbs: Thanks Jim!

BrianShaughnessy

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8WHEELER

Quote from: warriorbass05 on July 31, 2007, 08:39:19 AM
Dan, thanks for posting these pics....you rock my brother!!! Do you know which General by number this is? There should be a "WGL" number etched into either the windshield, rear window or somewhere on the dash that tells what number car is was for WB...


Sorry, I have never looked for the number, there actually would be no need for to do that. I have known
him so long and the car, I know its REAL so I have never bothered to look.

I am pretty sure they are 14in rims, I know they came on the car   :shruggy:

I left my Charger up in Canada last year and rode home with Jim and his wife, had a great time, it may not look
all that good but it will still drive just about anywhere if you can afford the gas, no car trailer for Jim  :2thumbs:

A few more pics

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Mike DC

Wheels:
Those are all 14x7" rims.  That was the common setup for screen-used GLs, although 15x7s and 15x8.5s showed up on the rear end sometimes.  It was kinda rare to see anything other than 14x7s on the front wheels, though.

1968s:
Probably at least 40% of all the TV-series GLs were converted 1968s.  Espeically during the later years of the show they used as many '68s as they did '69s. 
The mechanics always swapped in the '69 grilles & taillights as soon as they got the car, and then the film crew would use both years interchangeably.  A converted '68 is really just as "TV-accurate" as a '69.  One of the 2 primary designated closeup cars was even a converted '68.


The wide-pushbar cars were built by WB mechanics, and they sometimes kept individual cars for several seasons.  That one looks like a 2nd-unit car that might date back to season#4, although it probably showed up in episodes all the way through season#7.  Look at the front bumper - you can see marks on the chrome from where a narrow-style pushbar had been welded on at an earlier time.   

 

Nacho-RT74

wasn't his nick name genleejim on the old board ?

I think he had the car posted on members' cars pictures section
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8WHEELER

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on July 31, 2007, 11:50:49 AM
wasn't his nick name genleejim on the old board ?

I think he had the car posted on members' cars pictures section


Yes that is his car, he was on the old site his name/handle is always GeneralLeeJim or very close..

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Charger_Fan

That's REALLY cool, thanks for sharing the pics & story. :cheers:

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69DodgeCharger

Quote from: 1hot68 on July 31, 2007, 09:29:29 AM
it would be really cool to know what episodes it was used in !


That's what i was wondering too, but after all these years there is probably now way to find out. Maybe you could match the blemishes on the car to those on the video? But that would be a lot of viewing.
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warriorbass05

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 31, 2007, 11:49:05 AM


The wide-pushbar cars were built by WB mechanics, and they sometimes kept individual cars for several seasons.  That one looks like a 2nd-unit car that might date back to season#4, although it probably showed up in episodes all the way through season#7.  Look at the front bumper - you can see marks on the chrome from where a narrow-style pushbar had been welded on at an earlier time.   

 

Dan, this is the reason that I was wondering about the car's number. Not to say that it is or is not real, just to kinda sorta think about where it MIGHT have been :icon_smile_big:

Crazy Larry

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 31, 2007, 11:49:05 AM
Wheels:
Those are all 14x7" rims.  That was the common setup for screen-used GLs, although 15x7s and 15x8.5s showed up on the rear end sometimes.  It was kinda rare to see anything other than 14x7s on the front wheels, though.

1968s:
Probably at least 40% of all the TV-series GLs were converted 1968s.  Espeically during the later years of the show they used as many '68s as they did '69s. 
The mechanics always swapped in the '69 grilles & taillights as soon as they got the car, and then the film crew would use both years interchangeably.  A converted '68 is really just as "TV-accurate" as a '69.  One of the 2 primary designated closeup cars was even a converted '68.


The wide-pushbar cars were built by WB mechanics, and they sometimes kept individual cars for several seasons.  That one looks like a 2nd-unit car that might date back to season#4, although it probably showed up in episodes all the way through season#7.  Look at the front bumper - you can see marks on the chrome from where a narrow-style pushbar had been welded on at an earlier time.   

 

:notworthy:

Mike you just solidified yourself as a supreme Charger Guru - very impressive knowledge.

bull

Thanks Dan.

I have 5 or 6 pictures of that car I took a few weeks ago at the Woodburn event. I'll post them later tonight.

I love the sticker he has in the back window, "The Hearbeat Stops Here!"

By the way, I heard that one of the two remaining WB original TV GLs (that was not changed or restored since the show) is going to be sold at auction pretty soon. I assume Jim has one of these two so who owns the other one?

7chargers

Hey "Mike DC"  thanks alot for the great info I find it facinating what that show did with all those cars they used.

8WHEELER

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 31, 2007, 11:49:05 AM
Wheels:
Those are all 14x7" rims.  That was the common setup for screen-used GLs, although 15x7s and 15x8.5s showed up on the rear end sometimes.  It was kinda rare to see anything other than 14x7s on the front wheels, though.

1968s:
Probably at least 40% of all the TV-series GLs were converted 1968s.  Espeically during the later years of the show they used as many '68s as they did '69s. 
The mechanics always swapped in the '69 grilles & taillights as soon as they got the car, and then the film crew would use both years interchangeably.  A converted '68 is really just as "TV-accurate" as a '69.  One of the 2 primary designated closeup cars was even a converted '68.


The wide-pushbar cars were built by WB mechanics, and they sometimes kept individual cars for several seasons.  That one looks like a 2nd-unit car that might date back to season#4, although it probably showed up in episodes all the way through season#7.  Look at the front bumper - you can see marks on the chrome from where a narrow-style pushbar had been welded on at an earlier time.   

 








Yep, Mike is the guy with the knowledge, that is why I did not say to many particular facts because
the owner of the car actually knows less about some of the details of the show than MikeD, but Jim
knows more than you can imagine about the show and the car, and they both know a heck of a lot
more than I will ever know.

Jim has told me over the years what episode's the car was in, but that has been over many years,
and I just don't remember anymore, it must be very interesting to watch an episode of the
show and say ''there is my car'' not sure how he figured it out for sure, with so many shows,
but like MikeD said, there are differences over the years in the cars as well, and he has talked
to many many people involved with the show over the years to help him figure that out.

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

8WHEELER

Quote from: bull on July 31, 2007, 01:55:30 PM
Thanks Dan.

I have 5 or 6 pictures of that car I took a few weeks ago at the Woodburn event. I'll post them later tonight.

I love the sticker he has in the back window, "The Hearbeat Stops Here!"

By the way, I heard that one of the two remaining WB original TV GLs (that was not changed or restored since the show) is going to be sold at auction pretty soon. I assume Jim has one of these two so who owns the other one?



Trust me Bull, Jim's car is not going to go up for sale untill he is 6ft under  :yesnod:  but I had not heard that  :scratchchin:

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

8WHEELER

Quote from: warriorbass05 on July 31, 2007, 12:03:17 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 31, 2007, 11:49:05 AM


The wide-pushbar cars were built by WB mechanics, and they sometimes kept individual cars for several seasons.  That one looks like a 2nd-unit car that might date back to season#4, although it probably showed up in episodes all the way through season#7.  Look at the front bumper - you can see marks on the chrome from where a narrow-style pushbar had been welded on at an earlier time.   

 

Dan, this is the reason that I was wondering about the car's number. Not to say that it is or is not real, just to kinda sorta think about where it MIGHT have been :icon_smile_big:


No problem, I did not take it the wrong way, just have never been able to see up there anyway   ;D

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

70charger_boy

John Schneider has an original from the show and is selling it at the upcoming Barrett-Jackson auction

Mike DC

 
Thanks for the compliments, guys.   ;D   Over the years I've just become a total fan-boy nerd about the General Lee.

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As for the GL in this thread and where it appears in the show -- 

The primary maintinence mechanic on the set every day of DOH was a guy named Tom Sarmento.  He ended up keeping detailed log books later in the series (partly done to satisfy WB that their car-money wasn't being wasted).  Those records still exist, and they can often peg various GLs down to specific episodes.

 

GeneralLeeTESH

 :2thumbs:
"General Lee Jim" lives North of Seattle. He has owned the GL car for the last 25 years. He lets lots of little kids (incl. mine) sit in it at shows and the XXX Drive-Inn and take pictures ! He has an AWESOME "Moonshine jug", Amer-Flag old style Ball helmet, ALL the DOH paraphenalia/toys/lunch pails, PICS, etc. He carries a proud collection of WB documents on the car and an ORIGINAL WB contract with him to "never show/display the car for profit". Awesome guy, awesome car..
-TESH
;)
The TESH

JimShine

Quote from: 70charger_boy on July 31, 2007, 02:28:58 PM
John Schneider has an original from the show and is selling it at the upcoming Barrett-Jackson auction

His was only used in the last reunion. He bought the car in the late 90's.

The bumper is cool as it has what looks like the weld lines from an earlier car. However, it could have been swapped on the show. That was the case on the ski car that survived. It wasn't as old as once thought. It just had some older parts attached to it. That happened when they had all those parts laying around for so many years.


Mike DC

 
That car is #36.  That would put it early in the WB era even without the bumper being original to it.

GL#32 was among the first batch of WB cars, so I could see #36 being very early too.

 


warriorbass05

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 31, 2007, 04:48:38 PM
 
That car is #36.  That would put it early in the WB era even without the bumper being original to it.

GL#32 was among the first batch of WB cars, so I could see #36 being very early too.

 

Mike, when you say first batch, are we talking season 1 or post Veluzat cars?

Mike DC

Post Valuzet.  When they went from the Valuzets to Ken Fritz/WB, they started over on the numbering system.

 

warriorbass05

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 31, 2007, 05:47:06 PM
Post Valuzet.  When they went from the Valuzets to Ken Fritz/WB, they started over on the numbering system.

 
Gotcha...How hard is it to get info on the Valuzet cars? I am making mine to look like one of those? :scratchchin:


CornDogsCharger

I'm not trying to start a bunch of crap about this car, but I have heard from a VERY reliable source that this car has had more then just a little bit of work here and there done to it.  The source has told me that the original tv used interior was removed and is no longer in the car.  One of the fenders had more damage to it than what is seen today.  On the positive side...this car was used in the episode "Danger on the Hazzard Express".... where the General Lee is driven by remote control.  This particular car is noticed by it's unusual painted flat sheetmetal door panel.  Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything... just stating what I have heard from my source.  I still think the car is absolutely awesome and I just love to see pictures of original GL's

Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee


bull

Here's some pics I took of the car a few weeks ago...

bull

Few more...

8WHEELER

Quote from: CornDogsCharger on July 31, 2007, 09:21:33 PM
I'm not trying to start a bunch of crap about this car, but I have heard from a VERY reliable source that this car has had more then just a little bit of work here and there done to it.  The source has told me that the original tv used interior was removed and is no longer in the car.  One of the fenders had more damage to it than what is seen today.  On the positive side...this car was used in the episode "Danger on the Hazzard Express".... where the General Lee is driven by remote control.  This particular car is noticed by it's unusual painted flat sheetmetal door panel.  Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything... just stating what I have heard from my source.  I still think the car is absolutely awesome and I just love to see pictures of original GL's

Justin
"CornDog"



You need a better source! Have you talked to Jim? I think he would know better than anybody about his own car.
And trust me, he has paper work, and pictures to back up everything. He puts the photo album on the front
of his car at shows, documenting the way it was when they picked it up in the desert, and from then on.

He did add several parts to the interior to complete things that were missing or in worse condition.
But most of the parts in the car today, was there when he got it, and it is still not in very nice shape
as you can tell buy the pictures...............the interior is in rough shape, but so is the rest of the car!!

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

bull

The rest of us should be so lucky as Jim; he doesn't have to worry about his car being pristine. And if he needs an interior part he can buy one cheaper because it has to be worn out to match.

68charger383

Quote from: 70charger_boy on July 31, 2007, 02:28:58 PM
John Schneider has an original from the show and is selling it at the upcoming Barrett-Jackson auction

Hopefully it won't have the same result as his E-Bay auction last month.

"I know a lot of you followed the General Lee Ebay auction that went on a number of weeks back. Unfortunately, a few folks thought it would be funny to see how far up the bids could go, and managed to ruin the auction for everyone else. So for those of you that were wondering, yes, the General is still happy in my garage." 
1968 Charger 383(Sold)
2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10

Mike DC

As for the Washington car, the interior has been altered more than some of the survivors. 
Do I think that ruins the car?  Hell, no.  The car is awesome.

Would I have kinda preferred to see it unchanged?  Yeah. 
But I'm not the owner of the car, either.  I'm not the one putting up with the problems these cars had when WB sent them out. 


I'm just really pleased whenever the WB paint/bodywork isn't changed.  I think that's the make-it-or-break-it issue when it comes to surviving GLs.  Interior changes (and even a lot of mechanical changes) don't break the sense of awe surrounding these cars when the original WB body paint is still there.  That orange exterior is what you really saw on TV every week.

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And I'm not criticizing because I totally understand, but people don't build GL replicas the way they really were.

Those cars were very rough, but it was in certain specific ways that you don't see on a normal unrestored raggedy musclecar.  They had bondo by the ton, but not RUST.  They had wavy panels by the ton, but it never passed a certain threshold to be visible from a distance.  The panels were thrown onto the cars with no concern for how they lined up, but there were never HUGE gaps visible.  Paint was just shiny enough to pass for normal, but still not really very shiny. Some of the seatcovers were repaired with plain flat vinyl on top without any year-specific stitching patterns. The list goes on.

The surviving cars really have a "workhorse" vibe to them, sorta like what you'd get if a taxi company was running a fleet of GLs.

 

70charger_boy

and let's remember that on the show bo and luke were always working on the motor to make it drive better.  Well, it was cooter working on the motor, but you get the point

dkn1997

Quote from: JimShine on July 31, 2007, 04:36:27 PM
Quote from: 70charger_boy on July 31, 2007, 02:28:58 PM
John Schneider has an original from the show and is selling it at the upcoming Barrett-Jackson auction

His was only used in the last reunion. He bought the car in the late 90's.

The bumper is cool as it has what looks like the weld lines from an earlier car. However, it could have been swapped on the show. That was the case on the ski car that survived. It wasn't as old as once thought. It just had some older parts attached to it. That happened when they had all those parts laying around for so many years.

I am not really that into the GL's, although the show is what motivated me into chargers, but I gotta say that this car in this thread is very cool.  What makes it cool is that it's pretty much unaltered and that it was produced when people had no clue how much money or buzz they would recreate years later.  it was a "lets throw some orange paint on these shitbags, wreck 'em, and throw them in the dumpster"
That's what makes them so cool now. nobody wanted them .  like superbirds, daytonas and most other gas guzzling bick block cars from the 60's/70's.  nobody wanted them at some point.  That's what makes this car and pretty much all muscle cars cool.

any GL that was created any time after the last tv episode aired to me is just another charger with orange paint. No pedigree compared to the original TV series cars and it's laughable that someone would pay big money for one of those when you know by the 90's someone was thinking of cashing in while they ran that last coat of orange over the trunk.    It's like trying to sell a mickey mantle autogaphed ball from 1978.  He was out of baseball over 10 years then.  show one from 1958 and to me, it's go a lot more sentimentality.

those later reuinion never captured the hokey charm of the original series for me, same goes for the cars made for them.  unless they were used in both the original series and the tv movies, that woudl be very cool. 

RECHRGED

bull

I think a lot depends on the mentality of the later GL owners. If they want to sit and argue about how authentic their cars are they really don't have a leg to stand on since the only really authentic GLs were the ones that participated in the original show and made it legendary. On the other hand if these GL owners are simply paying homage to the DOH and aren't getting caught up in the squabbling over authenticity (just having fun with it) then that's way cool. I just think it's really cheesy when people (like HLPAG) try to attach themselves to the original show for profit or fame. I mean so what, you've got an orange Charger with a decal kit. That doesn't make you a celebrity and it doesn't add anything to the original DOH. In fact it reminds me of those people who sat in line for a month when the newest Star Wars movies came out trying to recreate the hype generated by the first movie back in 1977.

dkn1997

Quote from: bull on August 01, 2007, 05:28:06 PM
I think a lot depends on the mentality of the later GL owners. If they want to sit and argue about how authentic their cars are they really don't have a leg to stand on since the only really authentic GLs were the ones that participated in the original show and made it legendary. On the other hand if these GL owners are simply paying homage to the DOH and aren't getting caught up in the squabbling over authenticity (just having fun with it) then that's way cool. I just think it's really cheesy when people (like HLPAG) try to attach themselves to the original show for profit or fame. I mean so what, you've got an orange Charger with a decal kit. That doesn't make you a celebrity and it doesn't add anything to the original DOH. In fact it reminds me of those people who sat in line for a month when the newest Star Wars movies came out trying to recreate the hype generated by the first movie back in 1977.

To me, that's what was so retarded about the John Schneider 10 million ebay debacle.  This was not an original series car.  it was built in 1997.  by that time, there was already considerable interest in DOH and the GL.

They had to have at least one or 2 really mint GL's from the series that they used for closeups and the "in town" shots.  Do people own those?  or did they get sold off to dirt track racers too?  lol!!!  to me, one of those cars, really nicely preserved, would be worth some serious money. 
RECHRGED

warriorbass05

Quote from: bull on August 01, 2007, 05:28:06 PM
I think a lot depends on the mentality of the later GL owners. If they want to sit and argue about how authentic their cars are they really don't have a leg to stand on since the only really authentic GLs were the ones that participated in the original show and made it legendary. On the other hand if these GL owners are simply paying homage to the DOH and aren't getting caught up in the squabbling over authenticity (just having fun with it) then that's way cool. I just think it's really cheesy when people (like HLPAG) try to attach themselves to the original show for profit or fame. I mean so what, you've got an orange Charger with a decal kit. That doesn't make you a celebrity and it doesn't add anything to the original DOH. In fact it reminds me of those people who sat in line for a month when the newest Star Wars movies came out trying to recreate the hype generated by the first movie back in 1977.

I agree with you. I am putting together a replica and I don't care about arguing so as long as I am happy with it, it does not matter to me what other owners think in terms of authenticity. I want to enjoy my car with my kids and since it is really going to be a LOT of work to get the car together, I am going to have fun with it no matter what debates arise...

Sabre

Great looking car, any chance the car will make it's way to any east coast car shows?  Preferably car shows in Delaware or Ocean City Maryland?  I'd love to see a real General Lee.

JimShine

Quote from: dkn1997 on August 01, 2007, 05:41:53 PM

They had to have at least one or 2 really mint GL's from the series that they used for closeups and the "in town" shots.  Do people own those?  or did they get sold off to dirt track racers too?  lol!!!  to me, one of those cars, really nicely preserved, would be worth some serious money. 

They didn't always keep nice closeup cars. That was really a WB era thing. They were not mint, just a better representation of the rest. Wayne Wooten has one and the other was a reunion movie car then hacked into the hero car for the movie. He also has the small pushbar car that sat above the Dukes sign on the side of the Burbank studios.


472 R/T SE

In those last pix it shows a '69 dash pad and heater controls, woodgrain dash and console.  Some more movie magic?
It's cool he left it as is.  I wonder how many left their's alone?   

Someday I'd like to disconnect that horn tho, preferably at the beginning of a show.  ;)

About the two best lookin fellers' you ever seen pushin' themselves around.  That would be a pic of us Dan.  :icon_smile_big:

skip68

Thank's 8WHEELER.  :cheers:  This is a cool little post.  Great pictures and a great story.  Chuck............ :yesnod:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


Charger1973

Quote from: warriorbass05 on August 01, 2007, 06:05:51 PM
Quote from: bull on August 01, 2007, 05:28:06 PM
I think a lot depends on the mentality of the later GL owners. If they want to sit and argue about how authentic their cars are they really don't have a leg to stand on since the only really authentic GLs were the ones that participated in the original show and made it legendary. On the other hand if these GL owners are simply paying homage to the DOH and aren't getting caught up in the squabbling over authenticity (just having fun with it) then that's way cool. I just think it's really cheesy when people (like HLPAG) try to attach themselves to the original show for profit or fame. I mean so what, you've got an orange Charger with a decal kit. That doesn't make you a celebrity and it doesn't add anything to the original DOH. In fact it reminds me of those people who sat in line for a month when the newest Star Wars movies came out trying to recreate the hype generated by the first movie back in 1977.

I agree with you. I am putting together a replica and I don't care about arguing so as long as I am happy with it, it does not matter to me what other owners think in terms of authenticity. I want to enjoy my car with my kids and since it is really going to be a LOT of work to get the car together, I am going to have fun with it no matter what debates arise...

Man you bring a car like that back from the dead and no one should say anything bad about what color you decide to paint it.

Mike DC

The TV series was done with just a couple of closeup/nice/hero GLs.  For the first two seasons they really didn't have designated "nicer" GLs, and at that point they really only had a just a handful of GLs in total.  It was about season#3 when they designated a few 1st-unit "good ones" to use.  Rich said he got two from the Valuzets and they kept using them to the end of the series.  They were sometimes updated as the details of the GLs were changed.  There was a '68 car that WB still has, and Wayne Wooten's '69 that he got in 1991 with the rest of the 17. 

Even Wayne's '69 car really isn't very NICE, and it probably got more screen-time as the hero GL than any other GL in existence.  By the time the series ended in 1985 they were actually getting ready to replace it with a fresh one.  It's not a heck of a lot nicer than the rest of the 17 cars, although it's a wealth of resources to study how it looked in its prime.  There are a lot of details on his car that aren't on the others.  (The engine bay is heavily altered from stock, the side mirror on the driver's door is moved a few inches forward, the trunk latch has a little electric button below the keyhole, there's a real CB radio on the console, etc.)

 

69chargerboy

Not being a huge DOH fan, I do like the REAL General Lee. Very COOL.  :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
My MoPar Family:
                                       
1968 Chrysler 300 
1968 Coronet 440 4-Dr                                                              
1968 Coronet 440                                       
1969 Charger                                       
1973 Charger SE 
1988 Dodge Custom 150 Pickup

JimShine

As time passes I feel the same way. The car is more important to me than the show.

There was indeed a somewhat 'hero' car at the start, but it didn't stay regulated to just closeup shots. The car was built quite differently than its brothers as it had a clearcoat applied and with its special detailing and mock rollbar it was intended to be the camera car.

Lostsheep

For anyone who has an interest, Wayne is putting together a Surviving Series General Lee Page. I hope it has all kinds of really cool info. Obviously some of us are more interested than others but anywho...  http://www.dohgltruth.com/

And 8 wheeler thanks for those pics. :drool5:

dkn1997

I had a 68 charger in high school in 1987, sold it for college money.  My old man knew I was into chargers and calls me my sophmore year and tells me that he's in a body shop in florida next to a real GL. it was beat, it had been rolled I think he said. and it had camera mount holes all over it.  They wanted 5 grand for it.  I had no money and I tried to convince him to buy it and hold it for me till I graduated and could pay him back...he didn't bite.  How cool would that have been?  damn.
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70charger_boy

Quote from: dkn1997 on August 02, 2007, 07:45:21 PM
I had a 68 charger in high school in 1987, sold it for college money.  My old man knew I was into chargers and calls me my sophmore year and tells me that he's in a body shop in florida next to a real GL. it was beat, it had been rolled I think he said. and it had camera mount holes all over it.  They wanted 5 grand for it.  I had no money and I tried to convince him to buy it and hold it for me till I graduated and could pay him back...he didn't bite.  How cool would that have been?  damn.

Nah, you got a real nice charger now.