Chargers with sunroofs.....

[Magnumcharger]

G'day.
Yesterday I paid a visit to my freakish brother in law, another Mopar fanatic, owner of a '67 Coronet 440.
Recently, he phoned me to say that he found a free parts car just down the road from his house, which happened to be a perfect disc brakes donor for his Coronet.
He told me it was a Cordoba.
In fact, after laying eyes on it, it's actually a 1975 Charger SE, which is a Cordoba in drag.
What caught my attention was the fact that it has a perfect manual sunroof, which works just as it should.
So obviously, the price is right.

My question: How close does this set-up come to approximating the sunroof avaliable on the 1969 - 1970 Chargers? And/or the 1971-1974 Chargers?

[41husk]

was a sun roof available on 3rd gens? I know first gens did not have them yet.

[bordin34]

A sunroof was available on all 3rd gens. The 75 Charger shares a very similar if not the same roof as a 3rd gen.

[41husk]

was it a coomon option?  I just cant remember it   I guess I am getting to old.

[Nacho-RT74]

not a common option.

I think available since 69

untill 72 was powered, since 73 was manual

[Chad L. Magee]

I think the sunroof option on Chargers started in 1969 (as I have never seen a factory 1968 sunroof Charger).  About thirteen years ago, I looked at a 1973 Charger SE with the sunroof outside Goodland, Kansas.  It was interesting as it was all white (exterior, vinyl top, interior), big block (probably a 400), but I don't remember the transmission type (probably automatic).  That car was a loaded car (all power options were present, AM 8-track still there) with fairly low miles (less than 70,000 if I remember right, been sitting out near a building since the late 70s per the license plate).  All it needed was a good cleaning and a wax job, no rust present.  A friend wanted to buy the car, but just did not have enough cash to get it (I think it was $2,000).  I was not in the market for a third gen at the time or I would have jumped on it......

[bordin34]

A sunroof wasn't necessarily rare but it was uncommon.

[Magnumcharger]

OK...we've established that sunroofs were avaliable on 1969 - 1974 Chargers.

What, if any, differences are there between them?
I've heard tell that they are, in fact, actually built by Bosch, the German contractor, popular for their sparkplugs.

[Nacho-RT74]

OK...we've established that sunroofs were avaliable on 1969 - 1974 Chargers.

What, if any, differences are there between them?
I've heard tell that they are, in fact, actually built by Bosch, the German contractor, popular for their sparkplugs.

mostly popular because relays

[NorwayCharger]

OK...we've established that sunroofs were avaliable on 1969 - 1974 Chargers.

What, if any, differences are there between them?
I've heard tell that they are, in fact, actually built by Bosch, the German contractor, popular for their sparkplugs.

mostly popular because relays

And a lot of other things http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm

[Argos_Chargers]

Sunroofs were a fairly rare option.  What makes them even more interesting is that you could get them as power or manual sunroofs.  For example, I have a '78 Magnum (renamed Charger) with a power sunroof.  I have known a number of people who have owned manual sunroof Chargers and Cordobas.  I have a friend who claims to have (I have never seen it) a '68 Charger with a power sunroof.

[Magnumcharger]

Sunroofs were a fairly rare option.  What makes them even more interesting is that you could get them as power or manual sunroofs.  For example, I have a '78 Magnum (renamed Charger) with a power sunroof.  I have known a number of people who have owned manual sunroof Chargers and Cordobas.  I have a friend who claims to have (I have never seen it) a '68 Charger with a power sunroof.

THAT....I'd like to see.....

[Alaskan_TA]

I am not sure about 1975, but.....

I did have a rusted out '74 Charger SE that I parted out years ago. The sunroof bits from it ended up in a 1971 Challenger I bought later. It fit perfectly but was a PITA to do.

Barry

[moparguy01]

it was an option cause I have one taking up space in my car. It doesn't fit with the roll cage unfortunately. so either i install the sunroof and remove the cage or leave the cage.

the jury is out on that one.

[UFO]

Don't cry fowl on that `68 with a sunroof.There a photo used in advertising that clearly shows the buckets seats with the `68 pattern.

[Magnumcharger]

When you say advertising, do you mean "Chrysler Factory" advertising?
In a brochure?

[UFO]

If I remember right it was in the new car issues of Hot Rod,Car Craft,etc. I`ll track it down and post it.

[UFO]

It was in Car+Driver.

[UFO]

77 ChargerSE,78 ChargerSE,78 MagnumXE.

[Magnumcharger]

Now to find out if they are all dimensionally the same...
If they are, maybe I'll put one in my '68 R/T.

[69charger2002]

man sunroofs look cool in chargers

[UFO]

I`ve taken one from a big chrysler,narrowed it about 4inches then put it in a 69 charger.

[Magnumcharger]

I've seen a Sunroof Superbird.
But could you imagine a Sunroof 1969 Charger 500?

[69_500]

There isn't anything in any of the paperwork that I've seen that says that you couldn't have gotten a sunroof in a 69 Charger 500. The only options listed as unavailable, are A/C, and a rear luggage rack. Which we all know that they made several with A/C.

[UFO]

True they don't say you couldn't get a sunroof,but a vinyl roof was not available on a 500.Sunroof and vinyl top went together.

[69_500]

Ah but there are 500's with a vinyl roof as well, which is another reason I say never say never with old Ma Mopar.

[UFO]

Dealer installed?

[hemigeno]

Mod Top too?





Sorry, couldn't resist...

[Magnumcharger]

Mod Top too?



Sorry, couldn't resist...

Mod top, sunroof, and a really short luggage rack.

[hemigeno]

There isn't anything in any of the paperwork that I've seen that says that you couldn't have gotten a sunroof in a 69 Charger 500. The only options listed as unavailable, are A/C, and a rear luggage rack. Which we all know that they made several with A/C.

Seriously, Danny - I don't have anything that excludes A/C from the '69 Charger500s.  There are three documents I have that list the only two exclusions for the 500 being 1. Vinyl Roof and 2. Luggage Rack.  They did have another caveat about the back window being clear if tinted glass was ordered, but that was it.  Those exclusions are listed on the Confidential Price Bulletin, the Bulletin #1 Dealer Intro, and Bulletin #4 (allowed the 440).  You might have some other info that I don't have, so I wouldn't say they never listed A/C as an exclusion.  It's just not something I've seen myself.

There is always more to learn, and MaMopar definitely contradicted herself quite frequently though.  My guess is that there weren't any C500's with either (factory-sanctioned) vinyl roofs or (factory-sanctioned) sunroofs.

[UFO]

I`ll bet if you have early info it would say no a/c.The hemi was the only engine avail at first.

[hemigeno]

I`ll bet if you have early info it would say no a/c.The hemi was the only engine avail at first.

You're right, it would have been inferred by the Hemi-only requirement, sorta like a no vinyl roof also meant no sunroof.  However, here's a copy of Bulletin #1 which makes no mention of A/C.

[69_500]

I don't remember which paper it is that I have that states, that they couldn't come with A/C, but if you read it it is obvious that the only reason they exclude A/C as an option is due to origionally only being sold with HEMI's. Or at least that was their origional goal.

I still say that an E-body luggage rack will fit on that shortened deck lid. And I also think that a luggage rack on a 500 would look good, if it also had the M25 sill mouldings.

As far as the whole factory installed versus dealer installed vinyl roofs well that one to me is uncertain. Uncertain due to some conflicting stories I've heard of various cars over the years. And having only seen 2 vinyl top cars in person, both of which were dealer installed vinyl tops, I can't make an definative statement either way. But I do know that the trim was different on each of those cars.

[Magnumcharger]

Here's an example of a Charger sunroof, compared to that of the later Cordoba-based B body, for comparison.

[ACUDANUT]

 I would rather had Ma Mopar make "T" tops on the 71/72 Chargers.  That would look awesome.

[Magnumcharger]

Another picture...71-74 B Body.