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The definition of a muscle car?

Started by 4aThrill, July 18, 2007, 01:26:28 PM

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4aThrill

The definition of a muscle car?

I am doing a paper on the definition of a muscle car, the thing is I can't have a definition from the dictionary. But I can ask people what they think the definition of a muscle is in my essay. So what are your thoughts of a muscle car is and such?  Then I can compare and contrast my thoughts from yours, make sense.


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PocketThunder

Mopars built between 1963 and 1974  :popcrn:  does that help :slap:
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Quote from: PocketThunder on July 18, 2007, 01:51:29 PM
Mopars built between 1963 and 1974  :popcrn:  does that help :slap:

thanks for including us 3rd gen guys  :cheers:
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Drache

More horsepower and torque than the smarts of the guys driving them!  :icon_smile_big:
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Ponch ®

Quote from: Drache on July 18, 2007, 01:53:36 PM
More horsepower and torque than the smarts of the guys driving them!  :icon_smile_big:

that's kinda harsh towards tuner kids...
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Quote from: Ponch ® on July 18, 2007, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Drache on July 18, 2007, 01:53:36 PM
More horsepower and torque than the smarts of the guys driving them!  :icon_smile_big:

that's kinda harsh towards tuner kids...

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Harlow

I remember reading somewhere that the actual definition is: a mid size car with a big block. Thus making camaros, E bodies and mustangs "pony cars". I consider anything from 1963(max wedge cars)-1974 a muscle car. That includes "pony cars".

Mefirst

60s to mid 70s Midsize car, big engine, no brakes to really mention, poor handling if going anything but straight... Simple looking interior, like no electric windows/seats, etc..

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Quote from: Harlow on July 18, 2007, 02:09:30 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the actual definition is: a mid size car with a big block. Thus making camaros, E bodies and mustangs "pony cars". I consider anything from 1963(max wedge cars)-1974 a muscle car. That includes "pony cars".
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Quote from: Mefirst on July 18, 2007, 02:31:33 PM
60s to mid 70s Midsize car, big engine, no brakes to really mention, poor handling if going anything but straight... Simple looking interior, like no electric windows/seats, etc..

/Tom


That's somewhat true. But some muscle cars did come with power windows and brakes and stuff.
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Quote60s to mid 70s Midsize car, big engine, no brakes to really mention, poor handling if going anything but straight... Simple looking interior, like no electric windows/seats, etc..

:yesnod:  ah yep
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Quote from: PocketThunder on July 18, 2007, 01:51:29 PM
Mopars built between 1963 and 1974  :popcrn:  does that help :slap:

  :iagree: :yesnod:.................. :2thumbs:
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The definition of a musclecar is this.
In 1964 industry standards said the engine to chasis ration should be 1 cubic inch of engine per 100 lbs of chasis weight.  Well, in 1964 when john delorean decided to put a 389 in a car that weighed 3800 lbs, 90 lbs short of being legal, the muscle car was born.  It was an option to a base model.  IE The GTO was an option on the tempest model.  It was such a marketing success that the big 3 auto makers all jumped aboard.  In 1970, insurance rates were going up, so it was common for automakers to underestimate horsepower and torque so the potential buyer wouldn't pay alot for insurance.
In 1975, the federal govt got rid of the leaded gas, imposed pollution controls and added the 5 mph bumper.  So, the last year of the musclecar was in 1974.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: bordin34 on July 18, 2007, 02:34:49 PM
There is none.

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Might I add that they have two doors, not four. :yesnod:

John_Kunkel

Quote from: bordin34 on July 18, 2007, 02:34:49 PM
There is none.

When it comes to the definitition of a muscle car there is only one correct answer.........there is no clear cut definition.
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dkn1997

has to meet 2 creteria in my book:

1. stomp the gas and see tire smoke in rear view
2. still can afford college for the kids after fixing her up.
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kidsixpack

A musclecar is:  any car that is built to out perform (Straightline accelaration or handaling) better than the standard vesion of the same car.  E.G.  Temest=GTO, Sattelite+ Road Runner, or my favorite Coronet 440 + Super Bee.  :Twocents:
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ITSA426

Parallel parking the manual steering, manual brake, four speed hemi will give you another thought on the term "muscle car"

68 Black Betty

A friend of mine once told me the definition of a muscle car is a car that can smoke the tires in all four gears.
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dkn1997

Quote from: 68 Black Betty on July 18, 2007, 07:59:14 PM
A friend of mine once told me the definition of a muscle car is a car that can smoke the tires in all four gears.

then most of us are in trouble.  most cannot smoke 'em in more than 2 gears and us guys with automatics are SOL no matter how much power we make...no 4th gear.
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bull

Quote from: John_Kunkel on July 18, 2007, 06:16:55 PM
Quote from: bordin34 on July 18, 2007, 02:34:49 PM
There is none.

When it comes to the definitition of a muscle car there is only one correct answer.........there is no clear cut definition.

But we know one when we see one.

1BAD68

simple, any car that was built and marketed based on its cubic inches of displacement or high horsepower rating. Any car marketed for luxury or comfort is not a muscle car.