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Started by bull, July 15, 2007, 01:22:10 AM

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http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20070714/118440552000.html

I guess Ford (who just turned 65) still fits into his Dr. Jones britches and they're actually filiming now. I guess it's going to happen.

"The action star, who first introduced the fedora-wearing, bullwhip-cracking Indiana Jones in the 1981 classic "Raiders of the Lost Ark," is actually doing many of his own stunts in the latest film.

"He's doing them, he just has a few more ice packs and a few more massages," Kennedy said."

Drache

They are also supposed to be bringing back Sean Connery as his father in this film as well!  :2thumbs:
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Quote from: Drache on July 15, 2007, 01:26:33 AM
They are also supposed to be bringing back Sean Connery as his father in this film as well!  :2thumbs:

I take it you didnt read the article.   ;)

QuoteOne popular character not in the lineup is Sean Connery, who played Indy's father.

"We would've loved to have Sean do a cameo-type part in this but he's very much enjoying retirement," Kennedy said.

I wish he was going to be in it, but he said a while back he wasnt going to make any more movies.  Bummer.  I dont care though Harrison Ford is my favorite and I guarantee this will be worth watching. 

:2thumbs:

70charger_boy

My insider sources say that bobby dinero will be in the movie

PocketThunder

Damn he's 65 already?  I'm getting old.
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Quote from: Charger1973 on July 15, 2007, 01:41:46 AM
Quote from: Drache on July 15, 2007, 01:26:33 AM
They are also supposed to be bringing back Sean Connery as his father in this film as well!  :2thumbs:

I take it you didnt read the article.   ;)

QuoteOne popular character not in the lineup is Sean Connery, who played Indy's father.

"We would've loved to have Sean do a cameo-type part in this but he's very much enjoying retirement," Kennedy said.

I wish he was going to be in it, but he said a while back he wasnt going to make any more movies.  Bummer.  I dont care though Harrison Ford is my favorite and I guarantee this will be worth watching. 

:2thumbs:

Yeah the page wouldn't load for me on my crappy dialup, but Sean Connery once stated in an interview that he would come out of retirement to do only one of two things, a camo in Indiana Jones or James Bond....  :'(
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I agree it would be nice...  Maybe its a cover up and they dont want anyone to know he will really be in it.   :shruggy:  Probably cant get that lucky.   :P

Brock Samson

anyword on the love intrest?..  :drool5:

Charger1973

The article says Cate Blanchett and she is listed here as well...  She would be my best guess right now. 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367882/

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Quote from: Drache on July 15, 2007, 01:26:33 AM
They are also supposed to be bringing back Sean Connery as his father in this film as well! :2thumbs:

what with the senior films, Rocky, sean connery, etc. Can we expect Terminator 4 with Arnold "yaaaa"
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Charger1973

I am kind of bummed about the Sean Connery thing, but I kind of expected him not to do it.  I was expecting to see John Rhys-Davies, and I was hoping they would bring back Karen Allen...

I had heard a rumor Spielberg was going to use his wife Kate Capshaw in this one, but I never liked her in Temple of Doom so im hoping they leave her out of this one...   

Mike DC

 
For Indiana Jones #4, Harry Ford's face is probably gonna get some digital "de-aging" work from ILM.

(Before you say "Oh god, computer-de-aging people will never work at all!" you should realize that you've already seen this process.  A big scene in the recent X-men#3, and lots of occasional shots with everyone from Arnold to Tom Cruise.  Digital face/age work has already been quietly creeping into movies for the last decade.)


I don't think they're gonna try to make Indiana look 36 again or anything, but they'll probably try to push his apparent age down a decade or more. 
We might end up looking at "Fugitive" era Harrison Ford if it works out well.

 

Charger1973

He already looks good for 65 though... 

70charger_boy

The original Indy movie took place in the 30's.  This new movie will be set in the 50's to compensate for his age

Charger1973

Quote from: 70charger_boy on July 15, 2007, 05:29:53 PM
The original Indy movie took place in the 30's.  This new movie will be set in the 50's to compensate for his age

:iagree:

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Quote from: Charger1973 on July 15, 2007, 04:59:59 PM
He already looks good for 65 though... 

I agree with you, however he admits to having some work done though.
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NYCMille

Great... I can see it now. "Indiana Jones and the Quest for Viagra"...  ;D

Charger1973

Quote from: NYCMille on July 16, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
Great... I can see it now. "Indiana Jones and the Quest for Viagra"...  ;D

I heard of a version once called "In Diana Jones and the Temple of Poon"   :rofl: 

PocketThunder

Quote from: Charger1973 on July 16, 2007, 10:10:48 AM
Quote from: NYCMille on July 16, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
Great... I can see it now. "Indiana Jones and the Quest for Viagra"...  ;D

I heard of a version once called "In Diana Jones and the Temple of Poon"   :rofl: 
Dont you mean you watched that version once with a box of kleenex  :whistling:
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Charger1973

Actually I havent seen it but its one I wouldnt mind having just for a conversation piece.  :icon_smile_big:  :hah:

Drache

I've heard of it as well but all IMDB.com has is these:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128726/  (Temple of Poon, 1996)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307407/  (San Fernando Jones & the Temple of Poon, 2000) (Stars Ron Jeremy!)
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 :slap: Drache, I have a feeling you're gonna piss off Troy with those links

Drache

Quote from: 70charger_boy on July 16, 2007, 03:54:16 PM
:slap: Drache, I have a feeling you're gonna piss off Troy with those links

If you've ever been to IMDB.com or even clicked those links you'll see that the pages tell you who was in the movie, and stupid facts or screwups in a movie, etc. Those aren't porn pages, nor do they have any pictures either.  :slap:
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Quote from: Drache on July 16, 2007, 04:37:39 PM
Quote from: 70charger_boy on July 16, 2007, 03:54:16 PM
:slap: Drache, I have a feeling you're gonna piss off Troy with those links

If you've ever been to IMDB.com or even clicked those links you'll see that the pages tell you who was in the movie, and stupid facts or screwups in a movie, etc. Those aren't porn pages, nor do they have any pictures either.  :slap:

it's not the links, but a certain male stars name that you used

gnrl01

I am personally glad to see another Indiana Jones flick in the making, I will always be a fan of these it is hard to believe he is 65 already! Man seeing these kid heroes at senior citizen age makes me feel old. Oh well...maybe I will pull out one of the old flicks out tonite and watch it with all this Indy talk! :D

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70charginglizard

Went and saw it last night and guys I have to say...Save your money. It was probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
It really sucked. I can usually tolerate a movie for the entire time. even if it's not that great but to be honest I almost got up and walked out and asked for my money back. It really sucked!  :rotz:
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Quote from: 70charginglizard on May 25, 2008, 01:48:21 PM
Went and saw it last night and guys I have to say...Save your money. It was probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
It really sucked. I can usually tolerate a movie for the entire time. even if it's not that great but to be honest I almost got up and walked out and asked for my money back. It really sucked!  :rotz:

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Great.  :rotz:

Thanks to George Lucas for ruining another great series.
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Charger1973

I liked the movie but if you go in expecting it to surpass the originals you will be disappointed.  Basically just expect a good action/adventure film with some throwbacks to the old movies and you will enjoy it.   

Yeah you can tell George Lucas had his hand in it with the unnecessary CGI crap, but overall it was good.  They kind of played up the hat but forgot to use the whip or theme song much.  I thought that was strange.  The ending was a little "out there" too, but if you look back at the other movies, I guess it could fit...

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Quote from: Charger1973 on May 25, 2008, 04:30:34 PM
I liked the movie but if you go in expecting it to surpass the originals you will be disappointed.  Basically just expect a good action/adventure film with some throwbacks to the old movies and you will enjoy it.   


:iagree:

I saw it and it is what it is. If you were there when the movies were first released, it's nice nostalgia and a way to end the series but don't expect too much. Now is the time to end the series.
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i Just got back and it was not bad , I liked it but not as good as the original
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bull

I haven't seen the new Indy yet but I know from previous experience (Star Wars) that Lucas is pretty good when it comes to conseptual thinking but when it comes to the execution of those concepts the story-telling really falls flat. It's too bad he can't just focus on what he's good at and leave the rest to the experts.

BigRed66

What a piece of crap that movie was. I FINALLY convinced my wife that it was gonna be a good movie...I mean, c'mon, it's George Lucas and Indiana Freakin' Jones....what a waste of an afternoon. $21.00 for 2 tickets, 6-something for popcorn that was stale (much like the movie), and 2 flat-ass sodas for 9 bucks. Well, there's roughly 40 bucks and two hours I'll never get back...as Alfred E. Newman would say, "Blecccchhh!!!"  :eek2:

P.S. Wife...RIGHT again...when will I learn?!??  :brickwall:
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Quote from: BigRed66 on May 25, 2008, 09:14:50 PM
What a piece of crap that movie was. I FINALLY convinced my wife that it was gonna be a good movie...I mean, c'mon, it's George Lucas and Indiana Freakin' Jones....what a waste of an afternoon. $21.00 for 2 tickets, 6-something for popcorn that was stale (much like the movie), and 2 flat-ass sodas for 9 bucks. Well, there's roughly 40 bucks and two hours I'll never get back...as Alfred E. Newman would say, "Blecccchhh!!!"  :eek2:

P.S. Wife...RIGHT again...when will I learn?!??  :brickwall:

You can't say I didn't warn you...lol

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Mike DC



Man, are you guys sure you've actually seen the old Indy movies?     



I loved this new Indy flick.  Honestly it was better than I ever expected it to be.  I don't see anything so bad about this 4th movie, that WASN'T just a built-in weak point of the whole Indiana Jones series from 1981.
 

Cheesy supernatural objects? 
Hopelessly unsurvivable action? 
Huge elaborate special-effects?
Complex booby-traps from 2000 years ago that still work?
Collapsing primitive temples?
Sidekicks that seem out of place? 
Physical comedy & gags? 
 
Face it, that pretty much sums up all the 1980s Indy movies to a tee. 

 

bountyhunter

I have to say the new Indy movie fits in well right along side "temple" and "crusade". I think it was a great movie and was better the second time I saw it. The beginning of the movie was fantastic. Glad to see Karen Allen back to finally answer some questions. Overall in my opinion it was just as good as Crusade and Temple.
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I will see it 4 times, it was so awesome.  :D

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Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on May 26, 2008, 02:48:17 AM


Man, are you guys sure you've actually seen the old Indy movies?     



I loved this new Indy flick.  Honestly it was better than I ever expected it to be.  I don't see anything so bad about this 4th movie, that WASN'T just a built-in weak point of the whole Indiana Jones series from 1981.
 

Cheesy supernatural objects? 
Hopelessly unsurvivable action? 
Huge elaborate special-effects?
Complex booby-traps from 2000 years ago that still work?
Collapsing primitive temples?
Sidekicks that seem out of place? 
Physical comedy & gags? 
 
Face it, that pretty much sums up all the 1980s Indy movies to a tee. 

 

:iagree:

I preferred it over all but the original movie. These shows have always been unbelievable and unrealistic and this is no different. I didn't expect or want to watch a real life archeologist documentary.
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saw it yesterday, and I did like a lot... just didn't like the aliens fact, and the starship launching part... too much fantasy about that, but did enjoy a lot, the tipical humor on hard situations
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I saw it yesterday.  :rotz:

Is this the L Ron Hubbard version. No good, not good at all.

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JimShine

I liked it alot. The story line really isn't that whacky. The alien stuff requires the same stretch of the imagination as the dogmatic stuff in the previous movies.

Mike DC

 
I agree, there is way too much rose-colored glasses about the original Indy movies. 



 
--  The "perfect" original 1981 movie was all about a group of Nazis fighting for a 2000-year-old Jewish relic.  (Stop and think about that for a second.)  The Nazis finally open it up and a bunch of ghosts start melting everyone's faces off.  Indy & Marion are spared for some reason because they closed their eyes. 


--  "Temple of Doom" starts with Indy (and the girl & 10yo sidekick) falling out of a flying plane and surviving without a scratch by sitting in an inflated rubber raft.  Indy gets controlled by a Voodoo doll & some wacko hypnosis.  The bad guy casually scoops the beating heart out of a guy (with his bare hands) and the victim is still alive afterwards.


--  "Last Crusade" involved Indy getting Adolf Hitler's autograph.  His dad get shot, so Indy gets the Holy Grail from a Knight in a secret temple (who had been patiently waiting in that little room since 1100 A.D. for Indy to show up.)  Getting there involved Indy not seeing a stone bridge 6 inches in front of his feet in broad daylight because it was painted black. 


Drache

I saw it last night and I enjoyed it, until the flying saucer came out of the ground. At that point everyone in the theatre groaned. Personally I think they should have picked a better theme for him. At least the Ark of the Covenant (which makes a cameo) and the Holy Grail were neater topics.
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The three earlier Indy movies centered around three major world religions.  (Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity)


You could make an argument that the Roswell/UFO/Aliens thing is a new major world "religion" to emerge in recent times.

 

Charger1973

Aliens are just as believable as the other stuff as Mike DC pointed out... I agree it seems weird but I would be tempted to believe Aliens crashed in Roswell before I would some of those other things they had in the first movies. 

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Whoa. We get warnings now for dredging up old threads. :nana:

Anyhoo, After all the bad reviews here I skipped seeing the new Indy movie in theaters but now I sort of wish I would have gone. I rented it last weekend and didn't think it was so bad. The alien business didn't bother me half as much as the amphibious car going off a cliff, landing safely in the top of a tree and being gently lowered into the water. And of course that was followed by the occupants surviving a fall down three huge waterfalls right after that. :o :rotz:

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Whoa. We get warnings now for dredging up old threads. :nana:

Anyhoo, After all the bad reviews here I skipped seeing the new Indy movie in theaters but now I sort of wish I would have gone. I rented it last weekend and didn't think it was so bad. The alien business didn't bother me half as much as the amphibious car going off a cliff, landing safely in the top of a tree and being gently lowered into the water. And of course that was followed by the occupants surviving a fall down three huge waterfalls right after that. :o :rotz:
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I saw it for free on a flight and was still disappointed in it. I didn't like it and couldn't recommend it. I did make it through the whole movie, but it just seemed flat to me.

jackel440

I did go and see it.thought it was neat the alien thing was cool till the end.then it got a little silly with the ship flying off.I see it is on dvd this week.I will end up adding it to the collection though ;)

bull

Quote from: jackel440 on November 06, 2008, 09:54:08 PM
I did go and see it.thought it was neat the alien thing was cool till the end.then it got a little silly with the ship flying off.I see it is on dvd this week.I will end up adding it to the collection though ;)

You know what's odd about the alien ship (I mean besides the fact that it happened at all)? If you watch the DVD extras these beings are not supposed to be physical aliens, they are supposed to travel telepathically so why did they need a spacecraft?

To his credit, Spielberg wanted nothing to do with aliens in this film. It was included to appease Lucas, which in my opinion is quite often a mistake.

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Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on May 28, 2008, 01:19:31 PM
 
The three earlier Indy movies centered around three major world religions.  (Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity)


You could make an argument that the Roswell/UFO/Aliens thing is a new major world "religion" to emerge in recent times.

 

I liked the movie a lot.   and the fifties themes/culture were all part of the movie I enjoyed,  the marlon brando biker leather jacket greaser thing,  the nuclear testing site, fifties spaceship stuff.  each movie sort of represented an era, a decade, 30's, 40's, 50's


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I've read that Lucas wanted to make a flat-out alien movie more than an Indy movie, and Spielberg just talked him out of that idea.  Indy's "Saucer Men from Mars" wisecrack in this flick was apparently a serious idea that Lucas was thinking about early on.


But I haven't read of Speilberg distancing himself from any alien themes whatsoever.  In fact I don't really see how Spielberg could have not been okay with some amount of alien stuff in this. 

The whole crystal skulls thing is pretty much an alien thing by definition; if that's the prized item then the movie is gonna have alien themes.  It's like trying to make "Raiders" without any direct references to Judaism.


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I really do think the Aliens thing does fit a religion though.  All the more so with the setting being the 1950s in this movie.


The alien enthusiam offers its own creation story for humans.  It potentially explains all sorts of "biblical" events in our human past.  It provides a Godlike higher & more intelligent power that we don't understand.  It offers the idea that this higher power may be guiding our lives in the present.  It calls for having unproven faith in a weird/ridiculed set of beliefs.  These are beliefs that fly almost entirely outside of our current conventional science. 

The alien belief fulfills a lot of the missing things, psychologically, that religion has traditionally done for people.  I doubt it's a coincidence that it appeals to a lot of particularly science-oriented types of people.  The group probably has less belief in current religions than average. 


SeattleCharger

hmm, speaking of that,  there was a show on discovery channel or history channel called something like "aliens and the bilble", something to that extent.   It had lots of comparisons between stories in the bible and what would be a scenario where it was actually alien involvement explaining it.  there was a lot in there about some of the south american cultures that had been supposedly contacted and even educated by aliens.   The show was interesting and the indy movie fit a lot of the show's explanations, 


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Quote from: SeattleChargerDog on November 08, 2008, 03:59:08 AM
hmm, speaking of that,  there was a show on discovery channel or history channel called something like "aliens and the bilble", something to that extent.   It had lots of comparisons between stories in the bible and what would be a scenario where it was actually alien involvement explaining it.  there was a lot in there about some of the south american cultures that had been supposedly contacted and even educated by aliens.   The show was interesting and the indy movie fit a lot of the show's explanations, 

Without getting too much into Biblical debate, wouldn't angels and demons qualify as aliens?

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 08, 2008, 02:19:40 AM
I've read that Lucas wanted to make a flat-out alien movie more than an Indy movie, and Spielberg just talked him out of that idea.  Indy's "Saucer Men from Mars" wisecrack in this flick was apparently a serious idea that Lucas was thinking about early on.


But I haven't read of Speilberg distancing himself from any alien themes whatsoever.  In fact I don't really see how Spielberg could have not been okay with some amount of alien stuff in this.  

It wasn't something I read it was something Spielberg said in the video extras. He basically said he wanted nothing to do with aliens in the Indy film and by his body language and verbiage you could tell he was fairly frustrated with the idea and was holding back somewhat from expressing his real opinion. At least that's what I got out of it. Anyway, regardless of that, when you compare the work of Spielberg and Lucas there's a vast difference in range and quality if you get my drift. I believe if it weren't for the anomalous success of Star Wars (dumb luck?), Lucas would be working at a Blockbuster video store somewhere.

Mike DC

I think Spielberg's level of quality in each movie has just done amazingly well in remaining high over time.  Lucas's work has not continued to hold up. 

Spielberg really has done something unusual for any artist of any sort.  Not many pop cultural artists of any kind that were making headlines in 1975 are still making headlines as trendsetting or top-shelf work today.  It's just not the common career path for people like him.       


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Lucas has basically continued to remain strong in his originally strong areas, and continued to weaken in his original weak areas.  I blame him for getting creatively lazy. 

Lucas has always been at least somewhat aware of his weaknesses (dialogue, human emotional stuff, etc) even 30 years ago.  But the difference is, 30 years ago he was surrounded by other directors & producers on the SW movies that would combat him sometimes when he was pushing for something too stupid.  But now the success of the series has allowed him to surround himself with yes-men.  Now he gets his way even when it would be better for the movies if he didn't. 

With Spielberg and Indy4, you're looking at a rare case of modern-era George Lucas not having complete control of the project.  He's working with someone else who's still willing/able to overrule his worst ideas.  That was not happening on the SW prequels. 

 

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Yeah, the third prequel was cool.  It had annoying dialogue like the others but the movie was a cool show for sure.   


I think the second "Attack of the Clones" was the weakest of the three SW prequels.  It just feels like it was shot & released when it was only about half finished.  And Count Dooku was a severe tool.  He wasn't as blatantly wrong as Jar-Jar, but he was really a joke compared to Darth Maul in "Plantom."  I still think Christopher Lee is cool idea to put in a SW movie, but they hung him on a weak character.



I actually like "Phantom Menace" more than I used to.  Jar-Jar is a problem and it's not dark enough, but just as a movie to sit through it has aged better than the second one IMHO.

I'm not gonna defend Jar-Jar.  But at the same time, if you think about it, it was no bigger a risk than introducing Obi-Wan's Jedi master in 1980.  You're expecting the most powerful Jedi you've ever seen . . . and you get a 2-foot-tall green skinned muppet, living in a swamp, talking with a Grover voice, annoying the hell out of Luke.

The risky move just went over with the audience a lot better with Yoda in "Empire Strikes Back" than with Jar-Jar in "Phantom Menace." 


bull

Funny you say what you said about Darth Maul because he was grossly underdeveloped too IMO. Other than his conflicts with the Jedi and his clandestine alliance with the dark side (and maybe his face paint and horns, lol) we wouldn't have known he was a bad guy.

SeattleCharger

Quote from: bull on November 09, 2008, 09:01:55 PM
Funny you say what you said about Darth Maul because he was grossly underdeveloped too IMO. Other than his conflicts with the Jedi and his clandestine alliance with the dark side (and maybe his face paint and horns, lol) we wouldn't have known he was a bad guy.

heh, ya, that is true.     dookuu was a great bad guy IMO, and made the beginning of the last movie that much better when annekin took his hands then his head.    jar jar was unnacceptable, ruined the movie, cannot watch the movie,  makes the ewoks look like a good idea      I think lucas was going towards kids, but the last movie made up for that by being much more dark and harsh, relatively speaking,   you guys write good reviews


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