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Started by Mean 318, July 12, 2007, 04:14:30 PM

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Mean 318

Ok, got the 440 to turn over but it wont start! It is getting gas -LOTS lol. New resistor, new coil, new starter relay, new fuseable link, new alt, bat is good, new plugs wires, it has electronic ignition, new dist, cap , and rotor, the black box worked fine last year so I think it is good still - replaced it a few years back, it has a new regulator, it just turns over and over! I also checked the firing order and it is right on... ideas?

69Coronet

I had the exact same problem with my tractor.  Never did find out what was wrong cause it just started working again
Its no disgrace being poor.  Its just inconvienient.

moparguy01

pull a plug wire, hold it close to something metal in the engine compartment, and have someone crank the engine over, see if you have a decent spark, an engine needs 3 things to run, fuel, fire, and time. you've got fuel, now check fire, and we'll go from there.

aifilaw

Quote from: moparguy01 on July 12, 2007, 06:09:39 PM
pull a plug wire, hold it close to something metal in the engine compartment, and have someone crank the engine over, see if you have a decent spark, an engine needs 3 things to run, fuel, fire, and time. you've got fuel, now check fire, and we'll go from there.

fuel fire and air(oxygen)(which usually gets subsetted down to groups like, vacuum port open)... :)
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moparguy01

Quote from: aifilaw on July 12, 2007, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: moparguy01 on July 12, 2007, 06:09:39 PM
pull a plug wire, hold it close to something metal in the engine compartment, and have someone crank the engine over, see if you have a decent spark, an engine needs 3 things to run, fuel, fire, and time. you've got fuel, now check fire, and we'll go from there.

fuel fire and air(oxygen)(which usually gets subsetted down to groups like, vacuum port open)... :)

air is pretty much always a given in an engine, unless your carb is plugged. without timing then you have fuel(which is a gasoline/oxygen mix) and fire, but they are possibly given to the wrong cylinder at the wrong time, and pumping fuel out the exhaust of causing predetonation. Timing is a very very important part. The  3 I listed are the 3 things needed to sustain combustion. :)

Mean 318

I put a wire from the pstv side of the bat to the ballast and nuthin, then I put the wire to the other side of the ballast and the lights in the dash started working and the key would start turn it over, then the ballast started smoking  :D, Then I was told o run a wire from the pstv side of the bat to the pstv side of the coil and it fired up for a second, all the lights in the dash and the dome light came on brighter then the sun and it died again. It smelled a little like burn carbon under the hood but not real bad o I thought it was just burnt carbon. Then I tried it again thinking I was just seeing things and the dome light didnt come on, Well I tried and all it did was turn over :icon_smile_dissapprove:. What did I do, and what should I do. What would I have burnt up? I should also say without a bypass nuithin in the dash works, but with the two different ones it turns over fine! Thoughts?

dukeboy_318

It sounds like what happened to my 74, it end up being a bad connection deep into the wiring harness under the hood.  By bypassing your engine electrical system when you touched the coil, you may have caused something to short out as well.  Best advice, get a volt meter and start testing every wire until you find it.  THats what I did to fix mine.  Good luck
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