front spindles,are they sided??

[gordo1968charger]

 just rebuilt the front suspension on my 68 charger ,including a ssbc front disc conversion,took it to my work for a front alignment,and it was no where near,camber and toe were real close but the caster was a mile away.i was wondering if the front spindles are sided and i ve mistakenly put the left in the right and vice versa?any ideas before i rip it to bits again?
the car drives fine by the way.
cheers
gordo

[Ghoste]

There is a left and a right to them.

[John_Kunkel]

Disc brake spindles have a left and right but drum brake spindles are the same for either side.

If you used drum brake spindles for the SSBC conversion they aren't the source of your alignment problem. (unless bent)

Moog makes an offset upper bushing for such problems.

[gordo1968charger]

it was drum spindles,i ll check out the moog bushes,thanks.
the caster was -17,when it sould have been +1

[Ghoste]

Not that it means anything, but the drum brake spindles still show a different part number for each side.  They may be interchangeable and even identical but for whatever reason Chrysler numbered them separate.

[gordo1968charger]

hmmm,i ll have to look into this!!

[Ghoste]

If John says they're the same, then they are likely the same.  I just wonder why the different part numbers.

[gordo1968charger]

i ve been in the motor trade nearly 20 years and normally if something is left hand it has say a part number ending in 789 for left and say 788 for right.even though they look identical.maybe some dumb bastard should have labelled them first!!
hindsight is a beautiful thing.

[John_Kunkel]

Not that it means anything, but the drum brake spindles still show a different part number for each side.  They may be interchangeable and even identical but for whatever reason Chrysler numbered them separate.

Different part number? Every book I have shows a single part number for the drum brake spindle with a quantity of 2 per car.

[Ghoste]

Okay, I see where I'm screwing it up now.  It's listing all left and rights but I wasn't looking at the quantities, just at the left hand part of the section.
So if I am reading it correctly now John, using the 67 book as an example, would the part number be 1858 084 for BOTH sides even though it is technically listed as a left side spindle?

[gordo1968charger]

looks like they are nt sided then,are these moog bushes any good or should i go for some new firm feel tubular upper control arms?got a stage 2 power box from these guys and its fantastic or my other one was completely fu$k£d,or both!

[John_Kunkel]

The Moog K-7103 offset bushings are made specifically to correct camber problems, lots cheaper than new arms.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MOG-K7103&N=700+400381+4294892674+115&autoview=sku

[is_it_EVER_done?]

the caster was -17,when it sould have been +1

WOW! Thats a huge difference. More than even a noticeable bend from a collision should show. I've delt with these cars for decades and have never seen that much differential, so I am going to guess that you have the upper controll arms on the wrong sides.

To be perfectly honest, I don't know for sure if everything would bolt together with the UCA'a on the wrong sides since I have never tried it, but unless you can see an obvious bend in something, that's the only thing I can think of that would cause such a huge negative number.

[gordo1968charger]

i thought that originally,but there is an indentation that lines up with the rubber stop.unless the alignment machine at work is nt calibrated correctly,but as i work for a major insurance accident repair centre,i do nt think that would be the problem either.i m stumped!!!
moog offset bushes might be the next move!!!

[is_it_EVER_done?]

i thought that originally,but there is an indentation that lines up with the rubber stop.unless the alignment machine at work is nt calibrated correctly,but as i work for a major insurance accident repair centre,i do nt think that would be the problem either.i m stumped!!!
moog offset bushes might be the next move!!!

I allways use the Moog offset bushings in order to gain a couple degrees of positive caster, but with the amount of differential that you are talking about, they won't even phase it. Just for visualization, picture a clock face with a hand at 12:00. Now picture the hand pointing at the 10:00 or 2:00 position (depending on side).

You can see that something has to be way out of wack. you should easily be able to see any bend that is that radical, so if nothing is bent, and the UCA's are on the correct sides, I would take it to a frame shop before doing, or buying anything else.

Can you post a pic? No guarantees, but it might be obvious to someone else.

[gordo1968charger]

possibly over the weekend,i drive a taxi on a friday and saturday night,so time is limited,but it pays for my parts!!!