V10 Charger (Update 5/25/21)

[WingCharger]

Good for road racing, bad for drag racing though.

What is bad with Wattslink for drag racing Explain please

That is what they said in PHR.

[suntech]

The wattslink is to hold the rearend sideways, and just that! A wattslink will hold it in the center of the car, on the entire spring travel. That is a good thing, regardless of what you do. You can also design it in a way that you can adjust the roll center, to fine tune it for your car/application. A panhard bar makes the axle turn around a radius (panhard bar length) around the tie in point in the car. Because of this, you would need more room for sideways wheel travel, in the wheelwells. For a car with short suspention travel, like a drag car, it is ok, and easy to set up, but IMO a nice wattslink setup will always be superior to anything else. The only downside with a conventional watts setup, is exhaust routing, since it requires some room, and on one of the sides the bar will be quite high up, and make exhaust routing a bitch on that side. 

And....GT will have wattslink on this great ride

[WingCharger]

The wattslink is to hold the rearend sideways, and just that! A wattslink will hold it in the center of the car, on the entire spring travel. That is a good thing, regardless of what you do. You can also design t in a way that you can adjust the roll center, to fine tune it for your car/application. A panhard bar makes the axle turn around a radius (panhard bar length) around the tie in point in the car. Because of this, you would need more room for sideways wheel travel, in the wheelwells. For a car with short suspention travel, like a drag car, it is ok, and easy to set up, but IMO a nice wattslink setup will always be superior to anything else. The only downside with a conventional watts setup, is exhaust routing, since it requires some room, and on one of the sides the bar will be quite high up, and make exhaust routing a bitch on that side. 

And....GT will have wattslink on this great ride

Are Watts Link's ever used with Caltracs?
Just curious.

[suntech]

well......... yes and no, because when you use leaf springs, you would normally rely on the sideways stability they give, and thay are actually holding the axle in place (sort of) !! on a paralell 3 or 4 link setup you NEED something to hold the axle, sideways, unless you use a 4 link setup, with upper (or lower) linkage arms are on an angle towards middle of the car (also kalled K link). 

[WingCharger]

well......... yes and no, because when you use leaf springs, you would normally rely on the sideways stability they give, and thay are actually holding the axle in place (sort of) !! on a paralell 3 or 4 link setup you NEED something to hold the axle, sideways, unless you use a 4 link setup, with upper (or lower) linkage arms are on an angle towards middle of the car (also kalled K link). 

Thanks!
The rear suspension on the car I plan to build will have +1 inch Caltracs, and (possibly) a Watts Linkage.
Sweet stance, and a great setup for racing and cruising.

I am just curious on if a Watts setup would be worth the work?

[suntech]

Everything is about is it worth it to YOU!!!
With watts link to can go closer to the wheel wells with your tires, without worrying about rubbing.
The Cal tracks does nothing else than holding the pinion angle in the right place, under both acceleration and braking. The leaf springs are holding the axle sideways, but it does flex some, hence the need for more tire clearance. A good watts link setup does not flex, and keeps the axle in dead center, on the entire suspention travel.
Since you are young, and dont have the car yet, you have plenty of time to figure out what is the best for you

[gordo1968charger]

when this is finally finished we all need a quarter mile and burnout video

[kamkuda]

Sweet, Very nice work.

[69*F5*SE]

You're going to have one unique automobile on your hands when it's done.  Hold on tight     Ted

[GT]

I bit of an update.  I was able to resolve my rear disk and front center cap problems easily enough.    I put on the right fender/door to get a feel for the ride height and lowered the front end more.  I think it needs to go about an inch lower in the front and another 2-2.5" in the rear...   

I was originally going to use leafs and a watts-link... but my current springs won't work.  So I either need to get new ones with a flat arch, or go with a 4-link and ditch the watts-link (won't be needed since it will be a triangulated 4-link)...  debating time & money right now...  I will get significantly more adjustability out of a 4-link...  But if I go with leafs now, it is cheaper and I can start moving forward on body work...

I'm going to load about 5-600lbs in the car and let it sit for a week or two to see if the springs settle at all... it is a foregone conclusion that something has to change in the rear.

[Charger-Bodie]

That Charger is gonna be BAD!!

[suntech]

Coming along great GT.  Agree that it could be a little tiny bit lower, but not much!!!

[Hemidog]

Sweet stance! 

Hey, you got some rust on that fender! 

[71bigblock]

Oh, wow, that is nice.   

[six-tee-nine]

The front looks fine to me, I agree that the rear needs some more lowering to get the wheelwells filled a little more like the front of the car.
But tell me can you ever stop looking at that beast?.... I think I would dragg my sofa into the garage and rather watch that car all night instead of my tv....

[chargerhunter]

Awesome build 

[Silver R/T]

Looking better

[Red440]

Looking for some inspiration ?

Check out this monster 

http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=5987

[IowaCharger69]

Looking for some inspiration ?

Check out this monster 

http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=5987

I guess I am not used to seeing oil filters hanging that low. I suppose that the K member is lower, but man those look awfully close to being the fist thing to hitting the asphalt.

[WingCharger]

Looking for some inspiration ?

Check out this monster 

http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=5987

OH MY GOD. THAT IS AMAZING!!

Wish I could read the articles about it.
Anybody got a spare V10 lying around?

In the article pictures, it looks like it has a black hood, but in the other pics doesnt?

[bakerhillpins]

Quite impressive work. And I agree with the statement about the oil filter and radiator. Those things look dangerously low.

However, NOT a fan of the modern dashboard stuffed into that car. 

[tan top]

Looking for some inspiration ?

Check out this monster 

http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=5987

thats some nice work also 

I bit of an update.  I was able to resolve my rear disk and front center cap problems easily enough.    I put on the right fender/door to get a feel for the ride height and lowered the front end more.  I think it needs to go about an inch lower in the front and another 2-2.5" in the rear...  

I was originally going to use leafs and a watts-link... but my current springs won't work.  So I either need to get new ones with a flat arch, or go with a 4-link and ditch the watts-link (won't be needed since it will be a triangulated 4-link)...  debating time & money right now...  I will get significantly more adjustability out of a 4-link...  But if I go with leafs now, it is cheaper and I can start moving forward on body work...

I'm going to load about 5-600lbs in the car and let it sit for a week or two to see if the springs settle at all... it is a foregone conclusion that something has to change in the rear.

keep up the awesome work Dude ..looking forward to seeing more pictures 

[Hemidog]

I've got that magazine, I might be able to translate some of the text later on, if I'm not busy.

[PocketThunder]

Quite impressive work. And I agree with the statement about the oil filter and radiator. Those things look dangerously low.

However, NOT a fan of the modern dashboard stuffed into that car. 

Yes i agree, quite impressive, but i also agree that the dash is out of place. 

The oil filters look like tow-maters teeth hanging out in front.  Maybe they could have been relocated inside the fenders?...??

Nice work on moving the brake booster forward where the battery goes.   

[Red440]

These pic`s were taken sometime last year, and during the winter the owner has taken the car back apart and made it ready for final assembly. What you see here is just the mockup