know its not a charger but have a question

[chargerman68]

on a 68 coronet superbee,did any real superbees have a column shifter,orginally.have a lead on 1 real deal 68 superbee but now im unsure if its really a superbee,thanks

[lumpy]

Yes, it probably came with it on the column. I don't think they came with consoles? Check the vin # WM21 is a super bee.

[chargerman68]

383 auto car has wm21 on it,just making sure before spending any money on a fake,thanks

[lumpy]

I think most '68 Bees had bench seat and column shift. Make sure that the vin matches the cowl, rad support, trunk, if that is all applicable What is the price, condition?

[lumpy]

Here is a great link that will answer 99% of any VIN # questions.   http://www.mymopar.com/decoder.htm

[Ghoste]

There are a LOT more muscle Mopars running around today with console shift or four speeds than ever it seems.  Column shift automatic was a much more popular combination at one time than you would think judging by today.

[6pkrunner]

Many column shift cars were converted to floor/console from junkyard donors. From the cars on the lots in the 60s, I'd say more came with bench/column shift, but were swapped to buckets/console as a donor became available. Out of mine, only the Super Bee is a bench/column setup and its staying that way.

[BrianShaughnessy]

Super Bee's were meant to be CHEAP.    That means bench seats and column shifts were standard.    If you wanted buckets and consoles you had to pay extra - that wasn't the point     They were meant to be stripper cars for the budget minded weekend warrior. 

Somewhere in time, a lot of people got the stupid idea that Road Runners and Super Bees were the top of the line personal luxury muscle cars     
That place was already occupied by the GTX and the Charger.

[hemihead]

Super Bee's were meant to be CHEAP.    That means bench seats and column shifts were standard.    If you wanted buckets and consoles you had to pay extra - that wasn't the point     They were meant to be stripper cars for the budget minded weekend warrior. 

Somewhere in time, a lot of people got the stupid idea that Road Runners and Super Bees were the top of the line personal luxury muscle cars     
That place was already occupied by the GTX and the Charger.

I agree , plus back then street racers preferred a column shift. They considered them faster and easier to shift and the car had less weight without the console. I also think there are more console cars out there than ever was built. Just like there are more Hemi cars, R/T cars, Striped cars, etc. etc. .

[lumpy]

Could you even get a '68 Bee with a console shift? I don't know that i have ever seen one.

[69CoronetRT]

Could you even get a '68 Bee with a console shift? I don't know that i have ever seen one.

No as bucket seats were not an option in '68. So all 68 automatic cars were column shift.

[69CoronetRT]

Super Bee's were meant to be CHEAP.    That means bench seats and column shifts were standard.    If you wanted buckets and consoles you had to pay extra - that wasn't the point     They were meant to be stripper cars for the budget minded weekend warrior. 

Somewhere in time, a lot of people got the stupid idea that Road Runners and Super Bees were the top of the line personal luxury muscle cars     
That place was already occupied by the GTX and the Charger.

...and the Coronet R/T. All three were different cars to compete against different competitors.

[PocketThunder]

Here is a real deal 68 RT  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,30013.0.html

oh wait, you said Super Bee, nevermind then i guess. 

[Bandit4142]

I had an original 68' Super Bee back in the early 90's that was a column shift bench seat car, so yes.   They indeed came that way originally.

[chargerman68]

thanks for the input i can i will move foward and buy it and i will get some pics asap....

[lumpy]

'68 R/Ts and 500s could have buckets and console. I beleive.

[chargerman68]

next question would be can i use from 68-69 fenders from other than coronets like roadrunners/chargers.....

also trunk,floor pans....

[lumpy]

A Coronet is a mixture of a Charger and a Roadrunner. Fenders from 68 and 69 are different. Satellite, RR doors and rear glass are the same. Some interior parts are same  as long as it's a B Body.

[chargerman68]

anyone have a pic and location of where to read the rad core support numbers?

[8WHEELER]

Here are the rad core support numbers, located just to the right of radiator, on the
core support. Some can be stamped upside down, but this is a 68.

Dan

[chargerman68]

now is that the vin or something on the fender tag..

[8WHEELER]

The last 5 numbers match the fender tag.

Dan

[69CoronetRT]

now is that the vin or something on the fender tag..

First letter is the plant
8=year
x=first digit of the VIN
the last six digits are the rest of the Sales Order number

a 68 Super Bee would read
(A,E,G)8W******

[lumpy]

VIN # stampings vary in location depending on make and year. I am not sure where they  are on a '68 Bee, but there should be one on the rad support as shown. It should match the last part of the vin # from the vin tag. Other Mopars have them stamped somwhere on the cowl, if you open the hood and look around in the cowl area directly behind the firewall. Sometimes the # is hidden underneath weatherstripping. The other place would be in the trunk somewhere around the lip. Sometimes they are hard to read because of excess factory paint. If you get two of the numbers to match, you probably have an original Bee. Then there is engine, trans and rear end #'s

[Brock Samson]

you will need '68 coront replacment fender, i belive a '69 is very much the same except for the side marker hole (square) but the floor board and trunk patch are common to all second gen b-bods...
  but....


PLEASE DONT PAINT IT PINK!!!!! 

[chargerman68]

sorry i dont want to but its the wifes car(quit  she doesnt know yet)

[69CoronetRT]

VIN # stampings vary in location depending on make and year. I am not sure where they  are on a '68 Bee, but there should be one on the rad support as shown. It should match the last part of the vin # from the vin tag. Other Mopars have them stamped somwhere on the cowl, if you open the hood and look around in the cowl area directly behind the firewall. Sometimes the # is hidden underneath weatherstripping. The other place would be in the trunk somewhere around the lip. Sometimes they are hard to read because of excess factory paint. If you get two of the numbers to match, you probably have an original Bee. Then there is engine, trans and rear end #'s

The VIN is not used for the radiator support stamping until the 69 model year. Before that, the Sales Order number is used. Therefore, the radiator support number will not match the VIN on a 68 Bee. It should match the number on the fender tag as the VIN is not on the tag until 69 either.

A 68 Bee will have the sales order number stamped on the radiator support and the driver's side trunk rail lip. It should looks similar to what was posted above.

VIN stampings on 68 engines and trannys are hit and miss. The were 'supposed' to have them after 1/1/68 but many do not. A 68 VIN, if it is even there, is stamped at the rear of the block near the oil sending unit and an auto tranny would be directly across from it on top of the bellhousing.

I'm not aware of any VIN numbers on a rear end....

[chargerman68]

so if i look at the rad core support and trunk lid i should be able to match it to the fender tag...

[69CoronetRT]

so if i look at the rad core support and trunk lid i should be able to match it to the fender tag...

Yes. The Sales Order number should be the same on all three.

[chargerman68]

thanks

[Brock Samson]

sorry i dont want to but its the wifes car(quit  she doesnt know yet)

well, why didn't ya' say so?..  you think she's not gonna see these threads?.. 

[chargerman68]

i am keeping the puter awy from here till the car comes.....

[Brock Samson]

  that's cool,.. maybe we can git troy to doctor up the threads... Troy?..

[chargerman68]

 

im in

hey she was talking about taking the train up too drive one of your cars to a show...sounds great maybe i could find a babysitter and i will go as well.its too far to drive from san diego,so the train would be the only way....when is the car show need to fiqure the money out...

[Brock Samson]

yeah i figgure you guys incl. the kids would fit just fine in the runner since it's a bench seat with belts for six...
you gotta pay you own expense$ (=gas) though..

  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,19763.0.html


BTW:

someone here,.. 'n i forgit who,.. has a '68 coronet in dark blue and it looks absolutly KILLER,.. i'm gonna post a '69 in b-5 here, both those i prefer over both the sublime and the... ack,.. pink..

[chargerman68]

check thanks for the chance,will let u know

[chargerman68]

update:


here are some pics...should i get......

[chargerman68]

want it to look like this.....


and yes cody u can have them

[chargerman68]

any ideas....should i get..........300 dollars for it.......

[PocketThunder]

that'll buff out    

Yes, buy it.  And then search for a 4 door coronet Granny car and get all the parts you need off it.  It will be one hell of a project but its in better shape than what i started with with my 68 Charger.

Does the car come with a clean title?

[chargerman68]

i know its rough but hell of a deal

[PocketThunder]

On second thought, maybe you want to buy this instead and save yourself some time and money in the long run.  http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/9/8/89376598.htm

[chargerman68]

thanks but small monthy budget....it will not get worked or even touched for a year or 2...

[PocketThunder]

thanks but small monthy budget....it will not get worked or even touched for a year or 2...

Yep, i know exactly what you mean.  Well get some wheels under it and get it home before someone else buys it.