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Flat power curves are good right ?

Started by Rolling_Thunder, June 12, 2007, 11:13:06 PM

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Rolling_Thunder

So i always heard that flat power curves are a good thing...         I never thought I would see one this flat...       :scratchchin:

1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

Ghoste


firefighter3931

A flat Tq curve is good but the horsepower should climb until it noses over.  :yesnod:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Rolling_Thunder

1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip


firefighter3931

68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

grouseman

The HP profile from a flat torque curve will never 'nose over'.  That only happens when torque drops off. 

firefighter3931

Quote from: grouseman on June 14, 2007, 11:13:34 AM
The HP profile from a flat torque curve will never 'nose over'.  That only happens when torque drops off. 


Agreed....tq and hp will cross over at 5250rpm but having a big fat tq curve is more desirable. Eventually hp will fall off but the longer you can carry the tq the better it will be.  :icon_smile_big:

Below is a graph illustrating what would be considered a desirable power curve....the engine's tq is pretty flat at 500+ ft lbs from 3600-5400  :2thumbs: while the engine continues to build horsepower until it noses over....well past the tq/hp crossover. The black lines represent the "better" dyno pull after the engine was tweaked. The red lines were the original engine combo which was poorly matched (cam too big, wrong intake manifold, not enough static compression) and it showed when the tq took a big dive and never really recovered.  :Twocents:


The "fix" for this build amounted to a 1/2 point increase in static compression, an appropriately specced intake manifold and 30* less duration at .050 valve lift.....and it made appreciably more power everywhere.  :yesnod:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Rolling_Thunder

so what you're telling me is the graph i posted is nowhere near "ideal" ?   :brickwall:
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip