i hope dodge wont go hybrid!

[HEMIMAN 94]

i think dodge should never go hybrid because if they do then the engines will be more of a BABY engine than what they got now plus what about if dodge went so in to hybrids that they loose money because people might not buy them so they will loose money which equals no more dodge

[Troy]

Uh, well, I don't know how to respond to that.

Most people who want basic transportation want "cheap" - not "powerful" - and hybrids are neither. However, as the technology advances then things will change. What will Dodge do when everyone else is making hybrids that are more powerful than their regular engines and they can't compete? It would be foolish for any company not to investigate new technology. With gas prices where they are, alternative fuel vehicles are bound to become more common.

Dodge can screw it up whether they go with hybrids or not and they're already losing money. It can't hurt to try other directions.

Troy

[jasonfromIKILLYA]

uh yeah.  well, unfortunately, times they change....

[Shakey]

i think dodge should never go hybrid because if they do then the engines will be more of a BABY engine than what they got now plus what about if dodge went so in to hybrids that they loose money because people might not buy them so they will loose money which equals no more dodge

Maybe you should put that in a letter to Chrysler.  I'm sure they'll agree.  Hell, they may even offer you a position on the board of directors.   

[miamivice]

wow such a compelling argument you have there

[Charger1973]

wow such a compelling argument you have there

  Im convinced.   

[Dodge Don]

And thus, we gain a better understanding on some of the reasons the "domestic" manufacturers are having their you know whats handed to them.

[pettyfan43]

Whether EVERYTHING goes hybrid is one thing but you can bet there WILL be some Dodges with Hybrid drivelines in them. It IS coming with ALL of the manufacturers, they can't afford NOT to.

[Chatt69chgr]

I saw a program on tv the other day that was really interesting.  The hosts visited Gale Bank Engineering and talked to him about internal combustion engines.  He convinced me that the way of the future is twin-turbocharged 4-cylinder diesel engines.  He explained that the power potential of a gas engine is ultimately limited by the octane rating of the gasoline.  A diesel doesn't care about octane rating so knock is eliminated as a factor.  And turbocharging is the way to make power with them.  He believes that hot rodders will eventually all be running twin-turbocharged diesels.  Hybrid gas-electric (ie, battery) arrangements will never be economical until they come up with a better battery than what's out there now. 

[Ghoste]

CAFE standards being what they are and all, for every 6.2 SRT they sell they likely need to move 5 hybrids (or similar mileage vehicle) to keep the average in line.

[Khyron]

i think dodge should never go hybrid because if they do then the engines will be more of a BABY engine than what they got now plus what about if dodge went so in to hybrids that they loose money because people might not buy them so they will loose money which equals no more dodge

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[Brock Samson]

well he did manage to git a exclaimation point in the header...
  :scratchchin:i suspect '94 was the DOB..

the first post:

"hey thats awsome bull run is awsome i was hoping you would win but you didnt you should have becuase you never talked slack you deserved to win the thing the trans am should have lost not won your charger is awsome realy cool"


welcome to the site HEMIMAN 

[moparguy01]

News flash, Dodge has already dabbled in hybrid cars in the 90's. But they ran into the exact same problems every other hybrid car manufacturer has found. the batteries just dont last that long. They have to be replaced every 5-6 years, and I know in the case of the Honda Insight, the attery sets cost damn near as much as the car.

BTW Dodges example was the Intrepid ESX. I think they did something with a caravan as well, but they found that it wasnt financially feasible at the time.

on another note. Please work on making your sentences coherant. Your posts really make my head hurt.

[Magnum Matt]

Yeah, Dodge is DOOMED if they start making hybrid cars!  I mean look at Toyota's sales for the past few years when they started making them.  They lost tons of money...  Wait a minute...  Aren't they number 1 in the market right now?  But Dodge shouldn't go hybrid.  They might make more money...  And you can't say that hybrid's are baby engines.  They have a new hybrid sports car that is about to be released that has over 400 HP!!!  And on top of that, Bush just passed a bill that requires all engines to be of a hybrid standard by 2020 if im not mistaken.

[Troy]

I found a cool article on hybrids earlier but decided not to post. One point they made is that the Hybrid Durango will be here soon so it's too late...

FYI - the one of the next gen Toyota hybrids (Volta) goes 0-60 in 4 seconds. It *only* gets 31 mpg though so the real save-the-world types will snub it.

Troy

[Ghoste]

   Hmmm, is there a link?

[Troy]

Original article:
http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center-article_130/

Toyota Volta - 3.3L V6 with an electric motor on each axle, 408 hp, 435 miles on 13.7 gallons. The gasoline engine part of it already exists so the major change is adding the electrics.
http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/volta.html
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=1958

Another concept with the same drive train in a different body - although this one is reported to be the next Supra due out soon(?):
http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/fths.html

If you're saying "yeah, but how close is the technology?" - the Lexus GS 450h is in production *now*:
http://www.hybridcars.com/compacts-sedans/lexus-gs-450h-overview.html
That's 4,100 pounds, 339 hp, 0-60 in 5.2 seconds, 22-28 mpg, Super Ultra-Low Emissions Vehicle (SULEV) and seats five.

The Volkswagen Chameleon is the ultimate retro-styled "green" vehicle but it will never see production.

Troy

[Ghoste]

That's a looong way from a Prius.

[Troy]

Updated my post. Yes, it's like a Prius on steroids with an Italian suit.

Troy

[Ghoste]

This is the part where the old Bob Dylan music comes up isn't it?

[Troy]

Who?

Troy

[Todd Wilson]

I am looking forward to Dodge making a Hybrid car. With the price of gas all the makers need to keep coming up with new and better ways to get MPG. As technology gets better and the costs and battery problems go away you can bet there will be more. As for "baby" motors theres several 4-6 cylinder engines that run really good. And when its time to go to work or run errands who cares.  I need cheap transportation for those duties so I can have gas money to spend on my toys.


Todd

[bull]

I just hope Dodge won't go bye-bye.

[Ghoste]

You're right Bull, I'm more worried about their ownership issues than hybrid cars.

[Charger1973]

I said id never buy another "new" car again but if they can offer me some serious MPG I would consider it.  It would save money in the long run.  Id rather have that extra money in my pocket for the nice days when I take my Charger out.  I drove my 79 Blazer today and at 6 mpg average, its getting a little expensive.