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Battery Cable lengths - 440

Started by BlueSS454, May 30, 2007, 10:43:40 PM

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BlueSS454

Tonights million dollar question  ;D.  How long are both the positive and negetive battery cables suppose to be on a 69 440 with A/C?  This is the last thing I need to pick up before I can finally fire the car up.  I can get the negetive cable in 25" or 32" and the positive in 48"  Both are 2 gauge wire.  I also need to know where the lead wire on the positive cable attaches too.
Tom Rightler

Shakey

I haven't got any measurements for you but you might want to try and get in touch with Rick Keesler at Laysons.  He'll should be able to provide you with measurements and maybe even sell you a set.  He makes them himself.  He is a member here and I am pretty sure he uses his name as his handle and over at Moparts he goes by Rick at Laysons, I think.

Here is a photo of his work.

gtx6970

negative bat cable is 23" center to center

positive is about 48" long, but I already have everything packed up for a show this weekend to say with 100% certainty
I do know the starter relay lead is about 21" long and exits the main lead at about 20" from the lead end

Shakey, are these the cables YOUR using, I'm so dis-appointed

Shakey

Quote from: gtx6970 on May 31, 2007, 09:47:50 PM
negative bat cable is 23" center to center

positive is about 48" long, but I already have everything packed up for a show this weekend to say with 100% certainty
I do know the starter relay lead is about 21" long and exits the main lead at about 20" from the lead end

Shakey, are these the cables YOUR using, I'm so dis-appointed

Please tell me/us why?

Please be specific about all three.

What have you got to offer and how much?

Charger-Bodie

the obvious ( atleast to me) things that are wrong with those are : the cable ends are way wrong and the factory one didnt have that heat shrink on them like that, and even the smaller terminals are mot right.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

resq302

Quote from: Shakey on June 01, 2007, 06:09:24 AM
Quote from: gtx6970 on May 31, 2007, 09:47:50 PM
negative bat cable is 23" center to center

positive is about 48" long, but I already have everything packed up for a show this weekend to say with 100% certainty
I do know the starter relay lead is about 21" long and exits the main lead at about 20" from the lead end

Shakey, are these the cables YOUR using, I'm so dis-appointed

Please tell me/us why?

Please be specific about all three.

What have you got to offer and how much?

I got a set from Bill for my car and the difference is night and day compared to the ones in your picture.  The ends that attach to the battery are factory appearing correct, not the over the count type replacement end.  The smaller ends are molded in rubber (where it attaches to the starter) and the positive cable also has the tar type black electrical cloth tape wrapped around that and the wire going to the solenoid.  They might cost a little bit more but for the resto you are doing Mike, I would certainly get them.  It is one of those small detail items that makes the car stand out (just like the correct end link studs I told you about).
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: gtx6970 on May 31, 2007, 09:47:50 PM


Shakey, are these the cables YOUR using, I'm so dis-appointed

Ouch but I have to agree :rotz:   Rick makes a nice cable but for a few $$ more you can get a "closer looking" cable


Sickening aint it?  :-\
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Back N Black


resq302

Mike,

For all of the detail that you are doing to that car, $155 would be pocket change as the total cost would blow that $155 away.  Your work is such a high quality that the cables in your picture would only detract from all of the hard work that you put into that car.  Just my opinion.  if you weren't going for such a detailed resto, those other cables would be good. Your car could be considered the standard of what cars should be done like. :yesnod:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

gtx6970

Quote from: Shakey on June 01, 2007, 06:09:24 AM

Please tell me/us why?

Please be specific about all three.

What have you got to offer and how much?

You asked,
BOTH are completely wrong in appearence , Obviously function is the same - it all depends on  what the owner desires in it when it's done.

Positive has the wrong color starter relay leads and completely wrong lead end.
Negative has the wrong end , + shouldn't have any heat shrink on it anywhere
Firewall ground  should have soldered and crimped ends and NO heatshrink

I'm not bashing Ricks cables,He makes a nice alternative to the OE correct ones for much less -  but for the customer that requires an OE appearence ,  :nono:

Positive = $130

Correct negative = $80
 

Shakey

Well fellas, thanks for the compliments and yes, I am one of those guys that likes the OE look and am willing to pay extra for it.  Last summer when I bought Rick's cables I was looking at the $230.00 USD vs. the $75.00 USD and it was an obvious choice, as far as functionality was concerned.  I will admit, I have not cut many corners up to this point and since these items are of high visibility, there is no point in starting now.  I guess I just wanted to clarify that the only difference between the two were the look.

Now Ernest, in the coming weeks I'll ask you about these cables, as well as some more items that I'll be needing.

Thanks again folks.

resq302

 :slap: :spank:  What did you learn.....just kidding.   :thumbup:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto