I have a kind of serious pet question for you, Dog related.....

[pettyfan43]

We have a dog we got back in February.

The dog is a Pyrinese/Dalmatian mix, He is still a puppy, and we got him from the Vet's office here in the town we live in.

They put a nylon collar on him. There hasn't been a problem until today. The collar has gotten too tight, he has gone through a growth spurt and started filling out a good bit. His neck filled out really fast. I noticed this morning he was still asleep when he usually is up and running our other dog crazy. BUt when I went outside, he got up and seemed to be fine.

My wife told me he has been quiet today (I've been gone working on my Charger most of the day) so I went out to feed them and he was asleep again. He came out to eat and I started checking him out and he had wet fur underneath his neck at his collar, I checked and the collar was WAY too tight, so I cut it off him and he seems to be OK but the collar rubbed his neck really bad. His fur is wet and smells AWFUL. No vet's office is open but he seems to be OK, He ate a full bowl of food and is now back in his house asleep. He does scratch at it some.

We are gonna call the vet's office tomorrow and see what they say, but apparently his neck has started filling out pretty quickly and the collar got too tight pretty quickly.

Any Ideas that will help the poor guy, Anybody else had a Dog go through this?

Thanks

[Chris G.]

Any Ideas that will help the poor guy?

Take this however you want, but the best help would be getting an owner who has an idea of how to take care of him. He had a nylon collar on since February, and you are wondering why it's so tight? Are you serious? It's May BTW.

[71ChallengeHer]

Clean up the sore area with some peroxide and put some antibotic cream on it til you get him to a vet.

[RECHRGD]

Well, you've corrected the problem, so unless an infection sets in he should be fine.  Not to bash you man, but how could you sit around and watch him grow without noticing that he needed a bigger collar??  Dogs are, in some ways, harder to raise than kids.  They can't tell you what is wrong with them.  Bob

[Telvis]

 

[pettyfan43]

I Do keep it checked, but he has hit a growth spurt, a week or so ago the collar was fine, Ease up a little bit, everybody makes mistakes. I have loosened the collar before. It still had plenty of room a week ago. I've never had a dog grow as fast as this one. Yes I spend time with him and yes we take good care of him. We got him after he was found wandering around where someone had dropped him off. We give him a safe home and feed him well and spend time with him. THIS WAS QUICK! I know we are to check the collar every two weeks.



It was a mistake and we made a run tonight to get some ointment and cleaned him up and got the ointment on him.


Chris G, I DO NOT appreciate being treated like I abuse this dog, We have one other dog and two cats, ALL OF THEM are well cared for. This just happened AS soon as I found the problem, I TOOK STEPS to make it right. Must be nice to be that damn perfect.

[pettyfan43]

AND if I was abusing or neglecting the little guy would I be stupid enough to announce it to the world?


Some people beat all. Something like this happens, and I look for help because I know it's a problem and I'm looking for help for the dog because I'm genuinely worried about him. And instead of help, some people have to bust on you and offer nothing to help at all.  If I didn't give a crap about him, would I have posted about this on 3 different message boards looking for help or suggestions.

NO THANKS to some of you, I DID find some help and have been outside after dark helping the guy and Tending to the problem. He will be going to the Vet tomorrow.

A couple of these posts are really bothersome. You don't know me or anything about me and you automatically decide I am mistreating this dog. This dog was found by a family and taken to the VET, Because he was starving and losing his fur. We adopted him and are giving him a home where he is safe (A big fenced yard) and make sure he is well fed with fresh water and spend time with him because he is DEAF. I love the little dog even though he can be maddening with some of the things he does.

This dog has NEVER been abused or neglected.

[TUFCAT]

If it smells that bad, he definately has an infection going.  My outdoor male cat (loveable but a trouble maker) gets beat up every so often and I always put peroxide on it when I see him come in with a boo boo. Unfortunately 90% of the time Teddy gets  a skin infection and we need to get some antibiotics for him. It always helps the healing process and the SMELL. In fact, without antibiotcis, I don't even want to be around him. Something about an animals skin infection - UGH- I know THAT SMELL....I would sometimes rather sniff the animals ass just to get the smell out of my nose. Usually helps . Now seriously, your vet will give some antibotics for sure. Also, so he can't lick the area (because he will just lick his fur off) your vet will probably give you one of those lamp shade looking things for around his neck to keep him from licking and scratching the area and keep it clean.

I don't think you shoudl be bashed. It happens. Also, if you didn't care, you wouldn't have posted for advise. I have 5 cats and a Collie and I love my pets and get really FRANTIC when something happens to one of them also.

Keep the faith dude, its a lessoned learned. I'm sure you feel shitty enough already.     

[pettyfan43]

If it smells that bad, he definately has an infection going.  My outdoor male cat (loveable but a trouble maker) gets beat up every so often and I always put peroxide on it when I see him come in with a boo boo. Unfortunately 90% of the time Teddy gets  a skin infection and we need to get some antibiotics for him. It always helps the healing process and the SMELL. In fact, without antibiotcis, I don't even want to be around him. Something about an animals skin infection - UGH- I know THAT SMELL....I would sometimes rather sniff the animals ass just to get the smell out of my nose. Usually helps . Now seriously, your vet will give some antibotics for sure. Also, so he can't lick the area (because he will just lick his fur off) your vet will probably give you one of those lamp shade looking things for around his neck to keep him from licking and scratching the area and keep it clean.

I don't think you shoudl be bashed. It happens. Also, if you didn't care, you wouldn't have posted for advise. I have 5 cats and a Collie and I love my pets and get really FRANTIC when something happens to one of them also.

Keep the faith dude, its a lessoned learned. I'm sure you feel shitty enough already.     

Thanks Cat, Yeah I feel crappy about it and as soon as I saw that there was a problem, I was trying to find out what to do to help the little fella out, and i get hammered on by this guy and chided by two others. Rather than try to help, they take potshots.  Since they spend every waking moment watching my every move I guess they automatically knew what happened.

Like I said he has hit a growth spurt and I have never seen a dog grow like this before, he has also started filling out really quick. I won't put a collar back on him because he is in a big fenced in yard anyway.

After we cleaned him up with peroxide twice and then treated him with some ointment to protect him, he feels a lot better, he has been eating well (that never changed) and for a while he was playing with the other dog again.  He's feeling better and when last I checked on him, the smell had died WAY down.

[71ChallengeHer]

I tried to help

[pettyfan43]

I tried to help

Yes you did and TO be honest I REALLY meant to thank you for that. Those others made me so mad though that I just forgot it. YEah We took your advice and cleaned him a few times with Peroxide. He seemed to like that and it seemed to help him a good bit.

Thank you, and I AM SORRY I forgot to thank you before.

You're an angel 

[71ChallengeHer]

You are very welcome. I never judge anyone.  I hope the puppy is feeling better.

[68chrgrwife]

even though you have a fenced yard you should have a collar and tags on him.....I know this from expierence...my dog dug through my yard, my neighbors yard and her neighbors yard to get out...they will and can do it...I hope that everything is ok with your dog...becareful about going to the vet though..you could put out tons of $$ for nothing..if the area is cleaned and treated just keep an eye on it..if he doesn't start healing in a day or two then take him.....I took my dog to the vet for a minor problem and ended up spending $300+.  And I think he would have been just fine..they only shaved and cleaned the area and gave me bacitracin to put on it. 

[Mrspettyfan43]

For those of you who have offered advice.... Thank you.  As my husband stated, we were out well after dark cleaning the area and applying ointment. The good news is that the smell as already lessened quite a bit (almost gone) and he is starting to act a fool again

ChrisG and Rechrgd.. Our animals ARE our children. We take very good care of them. As a matter of fact they are spoiled rotten. Our puppy was only 18 pounds when we got him at 5 months. I have never seen a dog grow as fast as he has. I think maybe he is making up for lost time.

I am not going to rehash what my husband has already said, but I will say that before you accuse someone of such a HORRIBLE crime (and I do think that any kind of abuse to a living thing is a crime) you need to think twice. ChrisG and Rechrgd, you do not know us and to assume that we abuse our animals is very sad to me.

Thanks again for the advice!

P.S. I just got off the phone with  my cousin who is a vet and she said that what has happened is common and that we are treating it the exact way she would.

[pettyfan43]

Thank You 68Chargerwife, I appreciate that, looks like maybe we got it under control. He's a great little dog.

Still not sure about a collar but after he gets through with this growth spurt maybe but MAN that was FAST!

[link]

please  tell us that you are more able to take care of your charger...shit if the oil gets low will you check it or just find out when its dead...

[Charger1973]

please  tell us that you are more able to take care of your charger...shit if the oil gets low will you check it or just find out when its dead...

Come on guys, is this really neccessary?   

[69charger2002]

agreed.. hope your little friend gets better soon   
trav

[pettyfan43]

please  tell us that you are more able to take care of your charger...shit if the oil gets low will you check it or just find out when its dead...

Please tell me today is not the only time you have woken up with your head up your ass. Or is this a regular thing?

This has been explained, Grow up and don't be that guy!

[pettyfan43]

Charger73 and 69Charger2002 Thanks a bunch guys, apparently this is pretty common for large breed puppies. Some people just have no clue.

He's already been playing with the other dog some so he is getting better.

[TUFCAT]

For those who pick on Petty Fan, you should know this. Many, Many MANY of us are animal lovers here. If you couldn't tell by the sincerity of this post - they LOVE their dog.  Don't get me on a soapbox on this one 'caus I will go ape shit (no offense to apes).   Just so you know where I stand, theres a place in hell for those who abuse children and animals and I will defend my position on this subject as long as I live.  Having said that, it was obvious to me that Mr and Mrs Petty Fan are NOT the abusive types. Open your hearts. 

These attacks aren't warranted.  In fact my first thought was about the dog, then in retrospect, how bad the owners must feel about it.  We all make mistakes.  Don't make them feel any worse. Hell, I have an avitar with a Football Helmet on a cat - - anyone care to call shit on me for that??

Thanks for caring,

TUF CAT.

[Drache]

Does it make me a bad pet owner when my dog had a pellet in it's leg for 4 days and I didn't notice because the dog wouldn't let anyone within 2 meters of him? Mistakes happen! My uncle loved his dog and was at work when the dog escaped and got hit by a car. The dog was pretty much fine although it refused to eat. My uncle phoned two vets and asked why the dog wouldn't be eating (not knowing the dog was hit by a car). They both told him to keep trying over the weekend and bring him in on Monday. By monday afternoon the dog was on the operating table trying to fix internal bleeding but passed away even after getting a transfusion from another dog!

Petty Fan dont let those jerks get you all riled up, just think of them as schoolyard bullies. Personally I hope your dog is ok!

[pettyfan43]

Thank you Tuf and Drache.

We do love our animals, they are like our children. We have two cats and two dogs because we really enjoy the companionship and the downright fun they can provide. We appreciate the unconditional love that they are so willing to give.

And we won't be bullied. I mean I know that these people would never say this garbage to my face. They are not man enough. They think they are cool sitting behind a keyboard.

Thanks again to all who have tried, directly OR indirectly to help. To those that think starting crap when someone is just looking for some help, I really can't say what I am feeling, but it is two words, seven letters starts and ends with F!

[Chris G.]

Chris G, I DO NOT appreciate being treated like I abuse this dog,

Like I said dude, take my words however you want. You obviously took them very personally because you mentioned how mad you were in like 10 posts. I don't think you abuse dogs, and I guess I am a little more nuts about taking care of dogs than most people. When we got our pup from the pound, and anything on him was gone the same day. He goes to the vet at least once a month just to get checked.

Don't take things so harsh. You made a post about how your dog was choking because he outgrew a collar he had on since February. Did you expect everyone to tell you how wonderful of an owner you are? I'm guessing you were. After all is said and done, I don't think you are a bad owner. I just think you need to be more aware of what's going on with this dog. Shoot me if you want.

[Brock Samson]

glad your buddy is getting better,.. sorry some folks arn't... 

[Chargen69]

Believe it or not, this happens a lot easier than you would think.  Atleast thats what the vet told me.  This happened to one of my dogs which I had to chain up for a while when I was making a fence repair.   So long as it's clean, the hair will grow back real quick and it should be fine.  Normal antiseptic cream should hedge any concerns you might have and infection.

[pettyfan43]

Chris G, I didn't expect anything, I simply asked for a little help for a situation that happened before I knew it was happening. The Vet's assistant told us and many people here and otherwise have agreed, This is kind of common. IT HAPPENS. It isn't a good thing but it can and does happen. Apparently it IS pretty common with large breed puppies.

What I was NOT looking for is someone being judgmental or coming down on me when I was simply concerned about our dog. Why do people think they know EXACTLY what is going on when they simply have no clue? Who are you to judge whether or not we take care of the dog?

The way he has grown over the last week or two has been astounding, kind of like a teenager, when they hit a growth spurt.  AND I didn't even think about this until my wife brought it up, but we had a pretty substantial rain this last week and he likes to get out in the rain and play. Between his growing and him playing in that rain, most likely that nylon collar stretched and then shrank. A combination of things, none of which was abusive or neglectful to our dog.

What made me mad was your accusatory tone. Simply because it is not true, but you and the missing link chose to see things like you know we are mistreating the dog when you don't know ANYTHING about me, my wife OR the dog.

Maybe instead of being judgmental in a situation, you can either try to help or just stay out of it, what you said didn't do anything besides make me feel worse and add anger to how I already felt. 

[19Charger68]

The fact that you took this dog that no one else wanted into your home - and that you posted your question about his health to get some help says it all.  I wish everyone was as concerned about these wonderful creatures as you are.  I hope he completely heals soon!

[pettyfan43]

For you folks who are concerned, this morning. That smell is gone, the place is already healing up well, he is really playful and getting really feisty, it was hard to get the ointment on him this morning and the place on his neck is a LOT better already.


Thank all of you who gave suggestions and moral support from Mrs Pettyfan43 and myself. Our little but QUICKLY growing buddy Hemi (Yeah Hemi the dog) thanks you as well!

[Chris G.]

Maybe instead of being judgmental in a situation, you can either try to help or just stay out of it, what you said didn't do anything besides make me feel worse and add anger to how I already felt. 

I'm just one guy with an opinion, that's all. Don't take it so personal. If you know you are a good owner, then that's all that should matter. The fact that you feel so bad about it, makes me know you do care. I did say you are probably a good owner, and had no intent to hurt him in my last post. The dog is fine now, so it's all good. 

[Chris G.]

glad your buddy is getting better,.. sorry some folks arn't... 

Hey Brock, how did you make out with that Pit you were getting? Is he home yet?

[pettyfan43]

Maybe instead of being judgmental in a situation, you can either try to help or just stay out of it, what you said didn't do anything besides make me feel worse and add anger to how I already felt. 

I'm just one guy with an opinion, that's all. Don't take it so personal. If you know you are a good owner, then that's all that should matter. The fact that you feel so bad about it, makes me know you do care. I did say you are probably a good owner, and had no intent to hurt him in my last post. The dog is fine now, so it's all good. 

You are right, believe me, I didn't sleep all that well last night. I feel a lot better now that we have checked on him.

Yeah we care for the guy a lot! Thank you for being do concerned about him, but I hope you understand Why it got mad about that.

Cheers

Chris

[68chrgrwife]

Pettyfan,I am glad to hear that your little guy is doing better.  I also have a large breed dog,so I know that they can "sprout up" pretty quickly.  Our lab was the same way when we first got him (he was 6 wks old).  Although I never experienced the same thing you did, we did experience other problems with him.  Fortunatly enough he is a great lovable dog that has rebound fine.  Our other dog is a Beagle and she is a spitball.  She cost us a lot of money too in vet bills already and we have only owned her for 5 months!  She got into a fight with a cat and punctured her eye...hundreds of dollars latter she is perfectly fine.

[pettyfan43]

HE continues to get much better, We just now did another cleaning and put the triple antibiotic ointment and he is a happy doggy! 

He's getting back to being his old self..

Thank you for your concern.

Thank you to everybody for caring about a a dog you haven't ever met.  He's a great puppy who will (I'm SURE) grow into a happy dog!

[RECHRGD]

Maybe instead of being judgmental in a situation, you can either try to help or just stay out of it, what you said didn't do anything besides make me feel worse and add anger to how I already felt.

I'm just one guy with an opinion, that's all. Don't take it so personal. If you know you are a good owner, then that's all that should matter. The fact that you feel so bad about it, makes me know you do care. I did say you are probably a good owner, and had no intent to hurt him in my last post. The dog is fine now, so it's all good.

You are right, believe me, I didn't sleep all that well last night. I feel a lot better now that we have checked on him.

Yeah we care for the guy a lot! Thank you for being do concerned about him, but I hope you understand Why it got mad about that.

Cheers

Chris

GEEEZE !  You sure got alot of mileage out of this thread.  I agree with Chris G. that, after reading all of your replies that you are not the abusive type and do love your pets.  But, given your first post, think about how that sounded to probably the two biggest dog lovers on this board.  Basically we hear that you got a puppy 3 months ago, he still has the same collar on that he came home with and now he's slowing chocking to death.  Not much else was presented to explain why he was allowed to get in that condition.  I wouldn't be much of a dog lover if I didn't question that.  I've seen too many sad cases over the years of pet abuse (calm down, I'm not talking about you) that was simply brought on by peoples lack of knowlege, economic situations or just plain laziness and they all LOVED their pets.  I can understand how you felt judged, but I would not change what I said considering how your first post sounded to me.  Chris G. and myself certainly seem to have been judged by all the fine people here.  Anyway, I can't do anymore damage here, so I'm done.  I'm very glad HEMI is on the mend.   Bob

[pettyfan43]

Maybe instead of being judgmental in a situation, you can either try to help or just stay out of it, what you said didn't do anything besides make me feel worse and add anger to how I already felt.

I'm just one guy with an opinion, that's all. Don't take it so personal. If you know you are a good owner, then that's all that should matter. The fact that you feel so bad about it, makes me know you do care. I did say you are probably a good owner, and had no intent to hurt him in my last post. The dog is fine now, so it's all good.

You are right, believe me, I didn't sleep all that well last night. I feel a lot better now that we have checked on him.

Yeah we care for the guy a lot! Thank you for being do concerned about him, but I hope you understand Why it got mad about that.

Cheers

Chris

GEEEZE !  You sure got alot of mileage out of this thread.  I agree with Chris G. that, after reading all of your replies that you are not the abusive type and do love your pets.  But, given your first post, think about how that sounded to probably the two biggest dog lovers on this board.  Basically we hear that you got a puppy 3 months ago, he still has the same collar on that he came home with and now he's slowing chocking to death.  Not much else was presented to explain why he was allowed to get in that condition.  I wouldn't be much of a dog lover if I didn't question that.  I've seen too many sad cases over the years of pet abuse (calm down, I'm not talking about you) that was simply brought on by peoples lack of knowlege, economic situations or just plain laziness and they all LOVED their pets.  I can understand how you felt judged, but I would not change what I said considering how your first post sounded to me.  Chris G. and myself certainly seem to have been judged by all the fine people here.  Anyway, I can't do anymore damage here, so I'm done.  I'm very glad HEMI is on the mend.   Bob

Yeah I reread the first post and it is kinda full of holes, but I was really worried and there aren't any Vets open here on Sunday. I wasn't really sure where to turn. I can see why it sounds like that to you. But I figured that with the message boards I'm on, some people would have had experience with this and I could hopefully get some ideas what to do. I was scared that the poor dog was in real bad shape. I wasn't real concerned with trying to tell the full complete story in detail. 

I didn't try to get mileage out of the thread, it just kinda happened.  I'm just glad our dog is doing better. Thanks

[71ChallengeHer]

Glad to hear the puppy is feeling better.

[link]

i agree with chris..at least the dog is ok...
dogs get hurt and you cant always be there..even if thay grow fast into a collar.....

[MoparManJim]

to RECHRGD , I know pettyfan as a follow board member, and I just want to tell you afew things. for one it depends on the dog collar that an animal has on an whats its made out of. if its nylon it is known to strink sometimes if it gets wet. I had a nylon watch on one time afew years back an went swimming with it over night that thing had sruckin on my wrist! I talk to pettyfan an he said his little dog had a nylon collar on. and he also said it had rain out where he lives at! so with hearing that it would seem the rain did it to the collar. also have you ever made a mistake in your life? probly so and have you ever ask for help? probly so. so when this guy comes on here asking for help you give him fricking grief!

link, did you just join the board here so you can also give pettyfan grief instead of helpful advice?? and what you said "please  tell us that you are more able to take care of your charger...shit if the oil gets low will you check it or just find out when its dead..." well did you have a charger that you for got to check the oil in an it croak the bucket? 

when people like you two jump down a person trout thinking your smart sound always think twice because I'm a animal lover also an Pettyfan came on here asking for fricking help an all you guys can do it bad mouth him just for asking for help. Maybe some day he can return the favor to you or maybe I can for advice or help. 

You really think that if he was hurting the poor dog that he would really come on here an ask for help? no he wouldn't so the stupid is really back on you, and also what does a fricking charger has to do with a darn dog? LOL

some of you should be ashame of yourselves for the bad mouthing of a person that is asking for help. I should maybe leave the site here if we have alot of people like you around here.

Yes I have also read page 2. 

Also from a friend for a friend, thank you all that had help Pettyfan out with advice an help for his little dog.. they should be more people like you all on this site to help others out instead of bad mouthing them.

      Jim 

[Brock Samson]

      "jump down a person trout "... 

yeah i know what ya'meant but it's too dang funny..   

oh, and Chris.. the little bastard peed on the rug so i shot him! 

[68chrgrwife]

      "jump down a person trout "... 

yeah i know what ya'meant but it's too dang funny..   

oh, and Chris.. the little bastard peed on the rug so i shot him! 

poor doggie.....

[pettyfan43]

SURELY Brock is pulling our leg on that one.

[Brock Samson]

SURELY Brock is pulling our leg on that one.

                      http://youtube.com/watch?v=sDv-v34JMEo
   

[472 R/T SE]

MoparManJim, did you read any of what RECHRGD or Chris said?  I know you can read but maybe you can't comprehend? 

[link]

WILL THE DRAMA EVER STOP........IS THIS ABOUT YOUR DOG OR YOU......GET A GRIP AND GET ON WITH LIFE....

[pettyfan43]

WILL THE DRAMA EVER STOP........IS THIS ABOUT YOUR DOG OR YOU......GET A GRIP AND GET ON WITH LIFE....

Wait a minute, I sent you a PM to find out if you had a problem with ME personally. To clear the air, after that sarcastic post you made last time.  I did that to keep any problems off this board and to nip any problems between us in the bud.

NOW you do this. WHO is creating drama here?

If you don't have a problem with me, just TELL ME THAT and it will be over. IF you do tell me what it is. But you LINK are the one that is creating drama here now.

GEEZ people I posted for advice about a problem with my puppy, I was worried about the dog pure and simple.

I did this on 3 message boards, of all the people on those boards TWO PEOPLE have given me crap BOTH form here.  EVERYONE ELSE understood what I was saying and where I was coming from.

[RECHRGD]

Pettyfan43, this is just getting stupid.  Regardless of what Link is saying, what are you getting out of this continuious argument?  Why not just let it go away?  Even after I thought I made peace with you, your still harping on the "two people that gave you crap".  I chose not to respond to MoparManJim's moronic post, figuring that he was either drunk or never made it passed 6th grade.  You guys are only confirming the stereotypical view of Mopar enthusiasts as being a bunch of ignorant redneck losers.  I think I'm going to go buy a corvette.  Love, Bob

[pettyfan43]

Ya know what, I'm not getting anything out of it.

The two people I was referring to were Chris G and link. The guy posted that little snide remark. YOU YOURSELF gave me crap after I answered a simple question about the dog to SOMEONE ELSE!

Anyway forget it. Maybe I have tried too hard to defend myself. It is just that some pretty serious stuff was said. Just like what link posted just above.

I've never caught more crap in my life from people for just asking for help.

To hell with it.

[Mrspettyfan43]

Stop. EVERYBODY just stop.

This has gone too far. Some harsh things have been said by ALL parties involved and now it is over. Our puppy is FINE and that is all that matters. 

There are alot of people on this board and it is to be expected that not everyone is going to get along, but we all need to remember that sometimes the written word might not come across the same way as if we were face to face discussing the same topic.

Bottom line, there are things going on in the world right now that are SO much more important that animals and yes, even cars. People are going through life altering events even as I type this and so the way I look at it is, if having to write this is the worst thing that happens to me today, then I am truly blessed.

Life it TOO short guys. Let it go.

Love you too Bob!

Beth

P.S. I am a redneck, but I'm an INTELLIGENT,HOT one! 

[Troy]

Geez... is all this really necessary?

Troy