Gas station boycott lets stand up and be heard

[ck1]

stop crying and do somthing about it! go see Dr. Phil

[BigBlackDodge]

When was the last time anyone built a new refinery?  I don't refurbishing or expanding an existing one, but actually went out and built a brand new one right here on American soil?   Anyone???



1976 I believe...........


And why should they build more............they make more profit not doing it.


BBD

[Dave22443]

Whose crying? 

[Dave22443]

This explains a little about what I was talking about.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2007-05-04T154625Z_01_N04336635_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-GASOLINE-PRICE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

[nh_mopar_fan]

At the risk of starting a political fight (Not what I'm trying to do) I think we need to look at the real reasons the price of gas is going up.

1) Oil compainies are price gouging?

Nope!

2) Price of crude is way up?

Nope!  (Its in fact, $10 per barrel cheaper than it was during the last $4.oo gallon gas)

3) Not enough refineries?

BINGO!

That, combined with new federal mandates on fuel mixtures puts extra work on our refineries that are already maxed out and the end result is... higher gas prices.

The sad fact is, our poloticians, activists and tree huggers all make things next to impossible for our oil companies.  Then... when all of these failed politics drive up the prices, the oil companies do indeed make record profits.  But instead of relaxing the regulations so the oil companies can re-invest the profits, congress starts singing the song of TAX-TAX-TAX!

When was the last time anyone built a new refinery?  I don't refurbishing or expanding an existing one, but actually went out and built a brand new one right here on American soil?   Anyone???

Do we think that *might* be part of the problem?

Who builds refineries and when was the last time they tried to build one?

The oil companies control refinery output. They have been systematically shutting down refineries for year.

Exxon/Mobil had RECORD earnings reported last week.

Is it the sole reason why gas prices are high? No. But it is not in the interest of the oil companies to build more refineries.

[Charger-Bodie]

one of the reasons there are not enuf refineries is because the envirnmentalist stand in the way of building them

[bull]

So how about we do our boycott next Wednesday. Everyone west of the Mississippi will fill up on Tuesday and to the east will fill up on Thursday. That'll teach 'em!

[PocketThunder]

one of the reasons there are not enuf refineries is because the envirnmentalist stand in the way of building them

  and there is a shortage of companies that know how to build refineries....  we are turning down work all the time..

Paul
in St. Paul
Estimator of Refinery Construction

[70charginglizard]

Quit bitchin and take the damn bus....lol

[ck1]

So how about we do our boycott next Wednesday. Everyone west of the Mississippi will fill up on Tuesday and to the east will fill up on Thursday. That'll teach 'em!

Tuesday will have already have happened if we start on Wensday out west here.....sounds good ???I'm lost...........unless fallowing Tuesday........dammit Bull.....I'm to slow minded to understand.......maybe Dr. Phil can help me too

[bull]

Quit bitchin and take the damn bus....lol

Yea, the bus is great. It turns a 20-minute commute into an 80-minute commute and you get to make friends with all the meth heads in town.

[70charginglizard]

Quit bitchin and take the damn bus....lol

Yea, the bus is great. It turns a 20-minute commute into an 80-minute commute and you get to make friends with all the meth heads in town.

not with me. 30 minute commute to a 35 minute commute and I can spare the 5 minutes no problem and the less stress, money and issues with traffic is well worth the trade off to me.

haven't run into many meth heads lately...lol 

[Troy]

 

I'd copy and paste from the last 85 times we've discussed this topic over the last five years but that would require me to spend effort on something totally useless. I think I'll mow my grass one blade at a time with some nail clippers instead. It will be less painful and have a greater impact.

By the way, whenever this big boycott actually happens (it hasn't yet even though I've gotten several hundred emails about it), let me know and I'll be sure to fill up that day. There shouldn't be a line...

Troy

[bull]

A while back I ran the route on tri met's website and it said it would take me 80 minutes including 2 minutes of walking and 44 minutes of waiting. I can be there in 20 if I drive. I might try riding my bike the four or so miles up to the transit center and eliminate that 44 minutes of waiting. That would cut the commute time down to about an hour.

[TK73]

As for me; lets do some math... 44 mile commute to under 6 per day.

Then:
44 miles @ 20mpg = 2.2 gallons per day x $3.25 = $7.15 per day x5 days a week = $35.75 per week x 50 weeks (2 vacation weeks)= $1787.50 / 2 people (ride sharer)
= $893.25 per year in COMMUTE only expense.  [ 274.84 gallons ]

Now:
6 miles @ 20mpg = .33 gallons per day x $3.25 = $1.07 per day x 5 days a week = $5.36 per week x 50 weeks (2 vacation weeks)
= $268.12 per year in COMMUTE only expense. [ 82.5 gallons ]


274.84 gallons (old trip) - 82.5 gallons (new trip)= 192.34 gallons EXTRA I can burn @ 10mpg in the Charger!!  YEEHAW!! 

[ck1]

I say we just all buy gas guzzlers and buy it all up and get it over with........run our chargers on alcohol............

[RD]

I say we just all buy gas guzzlers and buy it all up and get it over with........run our chargers on alcohol............

you jest, but moparguy01 is retuning his carb to run on E85.  I am waiting to see how that one turns out.

[bull]

I'd copy and paste from the last 85 times we've discussed this topic over the last five years but that would require me to spend effort on something totally useless. I think I'll mow my grass one blade at a time with some nail clippers instead. It will be less painful and have a greater impact.

By the way, whenever this big boycott actually happens (it hasn't yet even though I've gotten several hundred emails about it), let me know and I'll be sure to fill up that day. There shouldn't be a line...

Troy

Moan if you want but at least this time we are talking about ways to conserve instead of just belly-aching. Did you happen to notice that?

[Troy]

I'd copy and paste from the last 85 times we've discussed this topic over the last five years but that would require me to spend effort on something totally useless. I think I'll mow my grass one blade at a time with some nail clippers instead. It will be less painful and have a greater impact.

By the way, whenever this big boycott actually happens (it hasn't yet even though I've gotten several hundred emails about it), let me know and I'll be sure to fill up that day. There shouldn't be a line...

Troy

Moan if you want but at least this time we are talking about ways to conserve instead of just belly-aching. Did you happen to notice that?

No. I decided to join the crowd and post without reading. It seems to be popular these days so I thought I'd give it a try. I have also posted tips to save money in the past but they have gone unheeded.

If you want to conserve:
Drive less (carpool, public transportation, only make trips when necessary, combine trips, do more stuff at home)
Buy a car that gets better mileage (or trade - I can save 45% by doing this myself but the $90 I save won't make a car payment)
Move closer to work OR work closer to home (Yes, this is a choice even if some people say it's not possible/practical. After all, you chose to work/live there in the first place.)
Tune up your car and properly inflate the tires!
Stop buying plastic (make your kids a swing set out of real wood instead)
Purchase locally grown produce and locally manufactured products when possible
Recycle oil

I'm sure there's a more comprehensive list somewhere - maybe even here.

Troy

[Silver R/T]

where you'll save couple bucks driving a civic or riding bus they'll make up on soccer moms driving full size SUVs

[bull]

Selling a low-mileage is not a bad idea but if you look at the used car market lately there's a glut of those kinds of vehicles for sale. If you already have one you might just be screwed.

Another thing that was mentioned in the newspaper recently (and something Troy mentioned above) is how many people can't offset the cost of buying a newer gas-miser with the trade off in payment. So with the market glutted with cheap, poor mileage SUVs people are buying them with cash instead of making payments on gas-misers and they're still saving money.

[ck1]

Guess my Honda civic hatch back VX wasn't such a bad investment now or never was back in 1995.........I go 500 miles on a tank of 9 gallons and still have couple gallons to spare.....it gets about 56 mile to the gallon if you keep it around 1500 rpms.....................

[Forza]

Unless you can piss petroleum, good luck with the boycott. I hate high gas prices as much as anyone else but theres nothing you can do to have them change their price. All you can do is try and conserve your fuel, and theres some great tips already in this thread. Best of luck to ya.

[Brock Samson]

We are just lucky it's as low as it's been for as long as it's been... IMO..

[70charger_boy]

I'd copy and paste from the last 85 times we've discussed this topic over the last five years but that would require me to spend effort on something totally useless. I think I'll mow my grass one blade at a time with some nail clippers instead. It will be less painful and have a greater impact.

By the way, whenever this big boycott actually happens (it hasn't yet even though I've gotten several hundred emails about it), let me know and I'll be sure to fill up that day. There shouldn't be a line...

Troy

Moan if you want but at least this time we are talking about ways to conserve instead of just belly-aching. Did you happen to notice that?

No. I decided to join the crowd and post without reading. It seems to be popular these days so I thought I'd give it a try. I have also posted tips to save money in the past but they have gone unheeded.

If you want to conserve:
Drive less (carpool, public transportation, only make trips when necessary, combine trips, do more stuff at home)
Buy a car that gets better mileage (or trade - I can save 45% by doing this myself but the $90 I save won't make a car payment)
Move closer to work OR work closer to home (Yes, this is a choice even if some people say it's not possible/practical. After all, you chose to work/live there in the first place.)
Tune up your car and properly inflate the tires!
Stop buying plastic (make your kids a swing set out of real wood instead)
Purchase locally grown produce and locally manufactured products when possible
Recycle oil

I'm sure there's a more comprehensive list somewhere - maybe even here.

Troy

Troy, you're missing the point.  What I'm trying to say is that we all, in this great country, need to stand up and protest or boycott or get to the reason why prices are so high.  In Rhode Island the prices have spiked up 80 cents a gallon in just 3 months.  I don't buy into this shortage of refineries or hurricane Katrina, or my favorite no link between crude oil prices and gas.  I know I can be a troublemaker, but this is more important to me than what britney spears is wearing or what color Anna Nicole Smiths funeral dress is or whos Danny Lynn's father is.  I just don't understand why, we as a country, can let these companies rob us blind. 
Considering cost of living is 3 percent a year what gives.  There is not one person willing to say anything about this!!  I know we have 2 knuckleheaded oil guys in office I'm sure that can be a problem, but how come there isn't anyone passionate about this??

I know I'm wasting your time on this thread, because you hate political threads, but do you know of any other groups that are passionateabout this?