Sweet 73 charger

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

Looks all original cept for those ugly rims

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-Dodge-Charger-1973-Rally-440-Six-Pack-4-Spd-Pistol-RT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6199QQihZ005QQitemZ150115910403QQrdZ1

[69bronzeT5]

Those are Torque Thrusts and btw, wrong section

[konigcharger]

the vin is WH23 but the car is an SE (WP29)

and the build sheet doesn't say anything about it being a SE 


i'm gonna say its REBODY 

[Fitz73Chrgr]

If you read the description, its obviously not all original.  I love TT2s.  The only thing that needs to go are the mudflaps.

[pettyfan43]

SOMETHING'S fishy. It DEFINITELY DIDN'T come that way. It says that combo is RARE- that is because they never made them that way.

I DO like the car though and I'd LOVE to have those wheels on my car (Hell Either one of my cars!)

[Judhudson]

For $15,000 you'd at least expect a working cigarette lighter!

I kid, I kid!  Nice car.

[hemihead]

Definately something going on with that one! 

[Charger1973]

Far from original.   Look how the front and rear upper panels dont match.   

[RD]

a rallye SE?  me dont think so.... unless it was a dealer thing... but then again, the wh23 VIN creates controversy

[jasonfromIKILLYA]

it's beautiful.  that's all i know.  i love the wheels

[Nacho-RT74]

Far from original.   Look how the front and rear upper panels dont match.   

Probably because if he added the SE quarter glass treatment, mostly SE rear upper panels are brougham and no regulars wider woodgrain, BTW hard to see... I would have changed the front ones to match thought!!!, pretty easy to find, specially in black

[Nacho-RT74]

a rallye SE?  me dont think so.... unless it was a dealer thing... but then again, the wh23 VIN creates controversy

actually they do exist... hard to see, but they exist... however they are more SEs with partial Rallye treatment, instead Rallyes with SE treatment.

[chgr500]

Definately something going on with that one! 

120 speedo with tac

[Nacho-RT74]

Tac was an option same as earlier models also on 73/74, for a while 120 miles speedo IT IS the speedo on those years

[konigcharger]

a rallye SE?  me dont think so.... unless it was a dealer thing... but then again, the wh23 VIN creates controversy

actually they do exist... hard to see, but they exist... however they are more SEs with partial Rallye treatment, instead Rallyes with SE treatment.

my thing is that the build sheet says nothing about the SE package. if this were a real SE/Rallye i think the build sheet would have to make mention somewhere. or how would they know to make it that way? whether the car i original or not is not even a question, because its obviously not. the question is wether someone added the opera windows to a Rallye, or the more likely of the two the Rallye was re-bodied as a SE.

[6670charger]

SOMETHING'S fishy. It DEFINITELY DIDN'T come that way. It says that combo is RARE- that is because they never made them that way.

I DO like the car though and I'd LOVE to have those wheels on my car (Hell Either one of my cars!)

...............and that's about as rare as they come!    

[runninhorn]

SOMETHING'S fishy. It DEFINITELY DIDN'T come that way. It says that combo is RARE- that is because they never made them that way.

I DO like the car though and I'd LOVE to have those wheels on my car (Hell Either one of my cars!)

here is his reply to that statement you made--

HELLO,
LET ME START ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION AS FOLLOWS. I WAS A DODGE DEALER HERE FOR 29 YEARS, I RETIRED 5 YEARS AGO, I HAVE THE BROADCAST SHEET, WHICH IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH MOPAR PRODUCTS IS PUT UNDERNEATH THE BACK SEAT WHEN THE CAR IS BUILT. THIS CAR WAS BUILT AS A BASE CHARGER, THEN THE RALLEY PACKAGE WAS ADDED AND THEN THE OPTIONAL SE ROOF. THE REAR WINDOWS ARE THEREFORE STATIONARY., THIS IS A VERY RARE CAR. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. OF THAT BE ASSURED. I HAVE HAD THIS QUESTION RAISED BEFORE. I THOUGHT I STATED THE FACT THAT THIS WAS CAR WAS A RARE/UNUSAUL ONE IN THE DECRIPTION. IF I DID NOT GET THAT ACROSS, I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST. I HOPE YOU GET THE CHANCE TO OWN THIS. I HAVE ENJOYED IT, BUT IT IS TIME FOR A NEW PROJECT. GOOD LUCK IF YOU SHOULD DECIDE TO BID. KURT

[Charger74]

SOMETHING'S fishy. It DEFINITELY DIDN'T come that way. It says that combo is RARE- that is because they never made them that way.

I DO like the car though and I'd LOVE to have those wheels on my car (Hell Either one of my cars!)

here is his reply to that statement you made--

HELLO,
LET ME START ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION AS FOLLOWS. I WAS A DODGE DEALER HERE FOR 29 YEARS, I RETIRED 5 YEARS AGO, I HAVE THE BROADCAST SHEET, WHICH IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH MOPAR PRODUCTS IS PUT UNDERNEATH THE BACK SEAT WHEN THE CAR IS BUILT. THIS CAR WAS BUILT AS A BASE CHARGER, THEN THE RALLEY PACKAGE WAS ADDED AND THEN THE OPTIONAL SE ROOF. THE REAR WINDOWS ARE THEREFORE STATIONARY., THIS IS A VERY RARE CAR. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. OF THAT BE ASSURED. I HAVE HAD THIS QUESTION RAISED BEFORE. I THOUGHT I STATED THE FACT THAT THIS WAS CAR WAS A RARE/UNUSAUL ONE IN THE DECRIPTION. IF I DID NOT GET THAT ACROSS, I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST. I HOPE YOU GET THE CHANCE TO OWN THIS. I HAVE ENJOYED IT, BUT IT IS TIME FOR A NEW PROJECT. GOOD LUCK IF YOU SHOULD DECIDE TO BID. KURT

Kurt,

Thanks for lettings us know about this.  Hope this clears things up for some people.  It is a pretty interesting car to say the least.    And welcome to the site.

[pettyfan43]

I'd love to see more information on that thing. IF it is what he says, that sucker is RARE! 

My understanding is that the S/E top AUTOMATICALLY makes the car a WP29.

That is truly a COOL car though. But I would have to see documents before I made a commitment to buy the car

[Charger1973]

I'd love to see more information on that thing. IF it is what he says, that sucker is RARE! 

My understanding is that the S/E top AUTOMATICALLY makes the car a WP29.

That is truly a COOL car though. But I would have to see documents before I made a commitment to buy the car

Im not so sure.  Seems like maybe the spring special Chargers should be in the same category but were coded as a hardtop WH23 car.  I cant really remember now. 

[pettyfan43]

I'd love to see more information on that thing. IF it is what he says, that sucker is RARE! 

My understanding is that the S/E top AUTOMATICALLY makes the car a WP29.

That is truly a COOL car though. But I would have to see documents before I made a commitment to buy the car

Im not so sure.  Seems like maybe the spring special Chargers should be in the same category but were coded as a hardtop WH23 car.  I cant really remember now. 

I didn't know this! Oh well, I won't say I've never been wrong, adn I probably will be again before today is over with!

[jasonfromIKILLYA]

wouldn't it just be the same as when the dealers were dropping big blocks in the darts?  the factory would have made it a certain way, with the build sheet saying one thing, and the dealership made the changes.  therefore, they wouldn't be reflected on the sheet.  It makes it "rare" since it's been that way for a long time, but not really any different than if one of us, say, pirated a 71 bee for our 73 SE.  *cough*   

[konigcharger]

ok... where does it say SE roof?

[SeattleCharger]

440 six pack 4 spd. , that's cool righ there, even though maybe not original, the dealer installed it when car was new?  does that count as its sort of original?
   funny under body/chassis, has listed new windshield wipers,   well, car is in great shape and lots new, bet that car is fun to drive

[BMOTOXSTAR]

Someone told me, on a link I posted here,  a few months ago that 73' Chargers were not made with 440 pistol grips, just 400 PG's?

[jasonfromIKILLYA]

why couldn't the SE roof have been added by the dealer as well?  they have body shops.  really dude, what's the other logical option?   the only other way it could be this way is if they swapped VIN tags or faked build sheets. 

[Nacho-RT74]

buildsheet says WH23, so is hardtop. No SE... SE states WP29 ALLWAYS

I'd love to see more information on that thing. IF it is what he says, that sucker is RARE! 

My understanding is that the S/E top AUTOMATICALLY makes the car a WP29.

That is truly a COOL car though. But I would have to see documents before I made a commitment to buy the car

Im not so sure.  Seems like maybe the spring special Chargers should be in the same category but were coded as a hardtop WH23 car.  I cant really remember now. 

yes, Spring Specials is a package to HARDTOPS, but those equipped with opera window without louvers use same SE hardware on quarter glass except the louvers and 3/4 roof, since was full vinyl roof. They still keep WH23

and I say THOSE EQUIPPED with opera windows because opera window treatment was OPTIONAL on Spring Special.

I still think SE quarter glass and vinyl top treatment was added on car since upper panels doesn't match on front and rear, and is not complete, still rest the rocker wider molding, SE tail lights and grilles and of course the right VIN LOL

Could it be also Spring Special converted to SE ? who knows, but if so, then complete interior from seats covers, carpet, dash etc... were changed same as front upper panels and opera frame for louvers, and full vinyl removed to add 3/4 treatment

[konigcharger]

Some a-hole (on this site) told me a few months ago that 73' Chargers were not made with 440 pistol grips, just 400 PG's?

W- Charger/ Coronet
H- Price code: High
2- two door
3- Hardtop
P- 400 4bbl
3- 1973

why couldn't the SE roof have been added by the dealer as well? they have body shops. really dude, what's the other logical option? the only other way it could be this way is if they swapped VIN tags or faked build sheets.

thats what I'm trying to figure out, if you look at the build sheet I posted (from the Ebay auction) I see nothing about a SE roof. IMO if it is legit (i.e. factory built) there would have to be a option code for it similar to M07 for spring specials. I'm not saying its not possible just if your gonna make a claim about it being a factory SE/Rallye i would like to see some proof thats all.

I WANT TO BELIVE

[konigcharger]

yes, Spring Specials is a package to HARDTOPS, but those equipped with opera window without louvers use same SE hardware on quarter glass except the louvers and 3/4 roof, since was full vinyl roof. They still keep WH23

and I say THOSE EQUIPPED with opera windows because opera window treatment was OPTIONAL on Spring Special.

I still think SE quarter glass and vinyl top treatment was added on car since upper panels doesn't match on front and rear, and is not complete, still rest the rocker wider molding, SE tail lights and grilles and of course the right VIN LOL

Could it be also Spring Special converted to SE ? who knows, but if so, then complete interior from seats covers, carpet, dash etc... were changed same as front upper panels and opera frame for louvers, and full vinyl removed to add 3/4 treatment

i thought about that but no A77 or M07 on the build sheet

[SeattleCharger]

Hey, Its gotta be that kids car that was buried up in the ARctic deep freeze, he finally went on an expidition and got the car,
   
    Early thaw because of global warming, this is the 1 of 1 car that was up in the north in the frozen-in cabin or whatever, remember that thread?

[Nacho-RT74]

yes, Spring Specials is a package to HARDTOPS, but those equipped with opera window without louvers use same SE hardware on quarter glass except the louvers and 3/4 roof, since was full vinyl roof. They still keep WH23

and I say THOSE EQUIPPED with opera windows because opera window treatment was OPTIONAL on Spring Special.

I still think SE quarter glass and vinyl top treatment was added on car since upper panels doesn't match on front and rear, and is not complete, still rest the rocker wider molding, SE tail lights and grilles and of course the right VIN LOL

Could it be also Spring Special converted to SE ? who knows, but if so, then complete interior from seats covers, carpet, dash etc... were changed same as front upper panels and opera frame for louvers, and full vinyl removed to add 3/4 treatment

i thought about that but no A77 or M07 on the build sheet

I'm not codes expert so I didn't check at, so that's why I just posted a thought