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1 of 3 Hemi 4 speed X9 Daytona

Started by nascarxx29, May 01, 2007, 09:04:46 PM

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nascarxx29

For the longest time it was known as the Don Hicks car.Then I was reading the Mar 2007 MCG.And seen it was bought in 1991 by Steve Fox.And going through my wingcar papers I come up with 2 more names to go with this car a Gary T haven and Ed Mohler Which also shared the featured in the article HEMI 3 CA license plate



1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

I found a old car magazine with the Ed Mohler X9 daytona
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

UFO

During its time with Ed Mohler it got featured in street machine magazine.

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

UFO

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UFO


nascarxx29

Not related to this daytona but another hemi daytona former original owner Ed Ryan which I have copies of the sale invoice for this hemi daytona.Notice the ad for the Ed Ryan daytona with a sunroof and vinyl top



1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

PocketThunder

Do you have any info on a Hemi Daytona that would have sold new out of New Richmond, WI?  My friend tells me that his uncle bought one new there and still has it.  I am gonna try and go see it this summer.
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nascarxx29

Id have to look it it up .But wasnt the Cal Anderson brown hemi 4 speed sold originally in WI.Is that the car you refering to .Or another hemi daytona from WI.Which may have changed hands .I can try looking up hemi daytonas that sold to WI

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1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Aero426

Quote from: PocketThunder on May 01, 2007, 10:11:53 PM
Do you have any info on a Hemi Daytona that would have sold new out of New Richmond, WI?  My friend tells me that his uncle bought one new there and still has it.  I am gonna try and go see it this summer.

Geno can confirm this, but the only Daytona from New Richmond WI would be Elmer Duellman's car which is a 440.      The dealer was Bernard's Chrysler-Plymouth-Dodge.   Elmer bought the car new and still has it.   This is the one with 304 miles.

nascarxx29

 I did a while ago was daytona per state totals from info on the daytona ship list
69 Daytona list per state totals going from the current standing list number to date #501 cars from pages supplied in my club newsletter that shows the new car shipments for 69 daytonas and locations shipped to Including serial numbers and dealer number and dealer location. Also shows what states did and did not recieve a 69 daytona .Starting with the 440s AL-11 AZ-5 AR-2 CANADA 45 CA-38 CO-12 CON-2 DE-1 FL-16 GA-16 HAWAII-2 ID-1 IL-22 IN-21 IA-3 KAN-7 KEN-5 LOU-7 ME-1 MD-2 MASS-5 MI-26 MINN-3 MISS-1 MO-21 MONT-1 NEB-4 NV-2 NH-2 NJ-6 NY-26 NC-13 NDKT-1 SDKT-4.OH-25 OK-9 ORE-7 PA-23 RI-3 SC-4 TN-5 TX-20 UT-1 VT-1 VA-13 WA ST-7 WA-DC-2 W VA-1 WI-9-The 426 states AZ-1 CANADA-5 CA-7 CO-3 GA-1 IL-1 IN-1 KAN-1 MD-1 MI-2 MO-1 NY-1 NC-1 OH-3 PA-1 SC-1 TX-3 WVA-1 WI-1 .Total #501 465- 440 Hemi-36 for the 47 states 1 line was unreadable unknown state. 2 cars were 440 dodge exec cars with no dealer location in house cars and figured in with the MI total.Only #3 states didnt recieve 69 Daytona on this current list Alaska-New Mexico-Wyoming .
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemigeno

Quote from: DougSchellinger on May 01, 2007, 10:37:18 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on May 01, 2007, 10:11:53 PM
Do you have any info on a Hemi Daytona that would have sold new out of New Richmond, WI?  My friend tells me that his uncle bought one new there and still has it.  I am gonna try and go see it this summer.

Geno can confirm this, but the only Daytona from New Richmond WI would be Elmer Duellman's car which is a 440.      The dealer was Bernard's Chrysler-Plymouth-Dodge.   Elmer bought the car new and still has it.   This is the one with 304 miles.

Doug, you're correct - the only one shown on the Shipping List as being shipped to or sold from New Richmond is indeed Elmer's car.  As everyone knows, that doesn't mean there wasn't a trade between dealerships.

I checked the other Wisconsin Daytonas, and in addition to Cal Anderson's former car there is another Wisconsin HemiDaytona (409066) which is listed as coming from Thiensville, WI.  Cal Anderson's car isn't even listed on the Shipping List as a HemiDaytona - but it most certainly is.   

PT, we kicked the Wisconsin HemiDaytonas around a year or so ago on this thread.  I'd still be real interested in finding out which car your friend's uncle has. 




Aero426

I would bet that since there is some hearsay involved, the car being discussed is Elmers.   There is no way the dealership in New Richmond had a second Daytona, as they didn't even want the one they got.

If Cal's car came from Theinsville, that probably was Milrace Motors.   Milrace was a sporty car type dealership, and certainly they were performance oriented.  Jerry Service's black Hemi Daytona came from Milrace as well.   Jerry's car was painted upon arrival at the dealership because it looked so bad.


pandamarie

Looks like one that I test drove in 1985 while I was a private in the USMC stationed in 29 palms. It was for sale at the time for 5500 and I couldnt get anyone to loan me the money. Does anyone know the Mopar Brothers in Tahunga,Ca. speeling is probably wrong, it a city in Los Angeles, anyway, when I got back from Hawaii a friend picked me up at the airport and took me over to his friends house, he had a 69 Daytona and 2 superbirds and a few cudas and challengers in his back yard. I belive he bought the last Superbird for 6500 at the pamona swap meet.
I need to get back down there and see if they still have all those nice mopars.

69_500

My whole question with the Don hicks Daytona is where did the fender tag come from?


I have photo's of that car from 1980 ,and it was missing the fender tag, and there are notes on the photo's from Don Hicks stating its a HEMI Daytona but no fender tag. Just curious if anyone knows.

nascarxx29

Same car that had front frame damage type marks underneath
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

UFO

Am I correct that the hood was replaced?
Reason being the part number is stenciled on the bottom.

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69_500

The hood hadn't been replaced in the photo's I have of it.

hemigeno

Quote from: DougSchellinger on May 02, 2007, 10:04:24 AM
I would bet that since there is some hearsay involved, the car being discussed is Elmers.   There is no way the dealership in New Richmond had a second Daytona, as they didn't even want the one they got.

Dumb (but serious) question here - did/do you know the folks from the New Richmond dealership?  I was just curious what their impression of the Daytona was when they got it...  Did they order it for their dealer stock, or was it just sent to them - and if they ordered it, did they change their minds once they saw it?

I was figuring that most of the orders for these cars were probably placed between mid-April (when the Daytona was formally introduced) up through the first of June (about 3 weeks before the last Daytona was made at Hamtramck).  That's only a month and a half, if you think about it.  The cars didn't start shipping until mid-August, which meant that by the time the cars hit the lot, the chance to order more of them or cancel what they did order was gone.


Quote from: DougSchellinger on May 02, 2007, 10:04:24 AM
If Cal's car came from Theinsville, that probably was Milrace Motors.   Milrace was a sporty car type dealership, and certainly they were performance oriented.  Jerry Service's black Hemi Daytona came from Milrace as well.   Jerry's car was painted upon arrival at the dealership because it looked so bad.

Sorry about the confusion in what I typed earlier.  Cal's former car didn't come from Thiensville - his supposedly shipped to Watertown Dodge (Watertown, WI).  The other Wisconsin HemiDaytona is the one that is listed as being from Thiensville.  That's the one that I'm hoping PocketThunder's friend can confirm.  The 409066 VIN is in the WW newsletters as a known car, but I don't have any info about colors or options.  You're absolutely correct, in that the dealership listed for Thiensville is Milrace Motors.  Must have been quite the place, from what you're saying!


PocketThunder

I'll try and get over there with my friend in the next month to finally meet his uncle.  I've got some pictures of the car from last summer but they are at London Drug right now. 
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

Aero426

Quote from: hemigeno on May 03, 2007, 09:24:50 AM
Quote from: DougSchellinger on May 02, 2007, 10:04:24 AM
I would bet that since there is some hearsay involved, the car being discussed is Elmers.   There is no way the dealership in New Richmond had a second Daytona, as they didn't even want the one they got.

Dumb (but serious) question here - did/do you know the folks from the New Richmond dealership?  I was just curious what their impression of the Daytona was when they got it...  Did they order it for their dealer stock, or was it just sent to them - and if they ordered it, did they change their minds once they saw it?

I was figuring that most of the orders for these cars were probably placed between mid-April (when the Daytona was formally introduced) up through the first of June (about 3 weeks before the last Daytona was made at Hamtramck).  That's only a month and a half, if you think about it.  The cars didn't start shipping until mid-August, which meant that by the time the cars hit the lot, the chance to order more of them or cancel what they did order was gone.


Quote from: DougSchellinger on May 02, 2007, 10:04:24 AM
If Cal's car came from Theinsville, that probably was Milrace Motors.   Milrace was a sporty car type dealership, and certainly they were performance oriented.  Jerry Service's black Hemi Daytona came from Milrace as well.   Jerry's car was painted upon arrival at the dealership because it looked so bad.

Sorry about the confusion in what I typed earlier.  Cal's former car didn't come from Thiensville - his supposedly shipped to Watertown Dodge (Watertown, WI).  The other Wisconsin HemiDaytona is the one that is listed as being from Thiensville.  That's the one that I'm hoping PocketThunder's friend can confirm.  The 409066 VIN is in the WW newsletters as a known car, but I don't have any info about colors or options.  You're absolutely correct, in that the dealership listed for Thiensville is Milrace Motors.  Must have been quite the place, from what you're saying!



Gary Moe who is a DSAC member and Daytona owner lives in New Richmond and remembers the green Daytona sitting on the back of the lot in the winter.    The dealer was  non-performance oriented, he had teen age kids who cared less.   My guess is that it was a car they got stuck with.   They thought they would need to paint it a bright color to sell it, so as soon as the car came in, it was painted Limelight.  The bodyman ran down to the local hardware store and got mailbox letters for the DAYTONA on the stripe.  You can see that in the picture I posted.  They let it sit all winter before attempting to market it in the spring of '70.   

As far as Milrace goes, I have some early 1990's photos of the dealership.  One of the last things my dad did before he passed away was interview the guy who owned the dealership.   I've never finished putting it together, but maybe I should.

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I'll try and get over there with my friend in the next month to finally meet his uncle.  I've got some pictures of the car from last summer but they are at London Drug right now.



car looks badass with big slots and  those super stock tires damn i wish they still made tires like that :yesnod: