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413 Crank

Started by Nacho-RT74, April 29, 2007, 11:05:56 PM

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Nacho-RT74

does a 413 crank work for 451 stroker on a 400 ? as far I know stroke on 413  is the same than 440, but want to be sure does work.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

chargerbr549

If the crank is from a car with a 6 hole flange it is basically the same crank as a 440, but the one you have to watch out for is some of them were out of trucks and they use a completely different flange style with an 8 hole flange and is nothing close to what the 8 hole flange that was used on the hemi's, those cranks will only work with the truck style transmission.


Kevin

Nacho-RT74

OK, I didn't know about 413 with 8 bolts I thought just Hemis were 8 bolts. So I will be fine for a while is 6 bolts then
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

RD

Quote from: chargerbr549 on April 29, 2007, 11:11:26 PM
If the crank is from a car with a 6 hole flange it is basically the same crank as a 440, but the one you have to watch out for is some of them were out of trucks and they use a completely different flange style with an 8 hole flange and is nothing close to what the 8 hole flange that was used on the hemi's, those cranks will only work with the truck style transmission.


Kevin


what "truck style" transmission are you referring to?
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: chargerbr549 on April 29, 2007, 11:11:26 PM
it is basically the same crank as a 440

curiosity... if you say basically is the same than a 440 crank, what is the "difference" if there is some noticeable one.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

RD

a forged 413 crank from a passenger car is exactly the same as a 440 forged crank.  Both are 3.75" stroke. journals are the same size on mains and rods.
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

Challenger340

"Look" for an early 413 Crank, to Identify by the "nub" that sticks out on the Rods throws, which differs from the 440 Cranks.

Yes the 413 cranks work for 451 builds.
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Nacho-RT74

reason I'm asking is because probably I'll get a 413 crank FOR FREE :D
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

chargerbr549

The main thing you might be concerned about between the 440  and the passenger car 413 crank is possibility of a balance issue which i'm sure you will balance it anyway, otherwise they will work in place of each other just fine.

As far as a truck transmission style I am referring to is mainly the type of transmissions used in bigger 2 ton style trucks with a manual trans, they have a different type of flywheel set-up they use and of course alot bigger transmission. I hope this helps,

Kevin