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1969 charger sunroof car roller trade for 70 challenger convertible rusted?

Started by 6869, April 10, 2007, 09:21:13 PM

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6869

Just wondering if I should trade my 1970 challenger 318 convertible complete but non-running needs full resto  rusted badly in floors, cowl, quarters but good frame rails for a 1969 charger factory sunroof car 383 auto solid but a roller. What is the factory sunroof car worth? thanks

Fitz73Chrgr

I would do it.  Aren't sunroof cars pretty rare?
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Drache

Ive seen '70 Challenger convertibles go for quite abit... especially HEMI clones lol!
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bull

Yea, the factory sunroof 2nd gen Chargers are very rare. I can't tell you how rare but they are rare. Someone around here will know for sure.

6869

DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE ABOUT AN EVEN TRADE?  THE CHARGER IS SOLID NEEDING QUARTERS. THE CHALLENGER HAS A SAG IN THEBODY WHEN BOTH DOORS OPEN?

bordin34

I would keep the challenger. I think convertibles are cooler and rarer. Besides it only a 2nd gen.

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1967 Coronet Black 440 Auto
1974 SE Brougham Blue 318 Auto- Sold to a guy in Croatia
1974 Valiant Green 318 Auto - Sold to a guy in Louisiana
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terrible one

From what you describe, it sounds like your Challenger is in worse condition than the Charger you are talking about. When you say a roller, does this mean it is missing the engine and transmission, or that it just doesn't run? I think that the Charger would be more rare, and maybe worth more in the end, but personally I would rather have the convertable!

6869

For starters im a 68-70 b-body nut The charger is a roller no engine or drive train. Missing interior. But has all the sunroof pieces. It a solid car, quarters both need replacement due to big dents. The 70 challenger convertible is complete but was sitting for 15 years in a building where racoons lived in the interior. So the complete interior is shot and the car smells BAD. The floors and cowl are rotted, so if you open the doors the doors drop from this, the lower quarters are rotted and door smashed. The rails are all soild.

69charger2002

i'd take the sunroof car personally. but then again your ebody could be suffering from poor factory alignment. after all they weren't put together all that well to begin with.... kidding
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pettyfan43

just my nickel's worth, but it sounds like the Charger could be a driver for what the Challenger would need to just get back to being a decent body again.

Then again I'm a little biased, but I'd be ALL ABOUT the Charger.

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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

dpm68

Well now, you ARE talking to a bunch of Charger-oriented people here, but you knew that, huh? I would have to take the sunroof because of personal preference and a distaste for so much rust and raccoon poop.

Charger Aficionado

I was in shock when I learned my friend sold his B5 Blue Auto Sunroof car on eBay for only 12,500!!!   I'm still shocked...  And he threw-in a Original Charger R/T 440 engine block... 

71ChallengeHer

Production # on 1970 Challenger Vert V8's  -  2543  That's what I found so far. It might be wrong.  But in the condition of both cars , I'd have to go with the Charger.

WheresMyCharger

Production of '70 Challenger R/T verts is 1,070. But as stated the clones are bringing good money. If your looking to invest, the Challenger may bring more money.If its an even trade, go for the Charger.
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6869

the challenger is a 318 auto car. not an R/T ive seen them go for about 10-12k rusted. What do you think the charger is worth as-is?

6869

Quote from: Charger Aficionado on April 10, 2007, 11:57:24 PM
I was in shock when I learned my friend sold his B5 Blue Auto Sunroof car on eBay for only 12,500!!!   I'm still shocked...  And he threw-in a Original Charger R/T 440 engine block... 
what shape was the charger, driver or roller?

41husk

1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

6869


Anders

Although I love chargers, I have always ranked e-body convertibles the highest on my wanted list. :-\
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Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Anders on April 11, 2007, 11:41:12 AM
Although I love chargers, I have always ranked e-body convertibles the highest on my wanted list. :-\

ive had verts and in my opinion they are very over rated!!
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68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
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dpm68

But...a classic vert at a drive-in movie with a double feature...now that's summer!

Bob

Quote from: bordin34 on April 10, 2007, 09:51:48 PM
I would keep the challenger. I think convertibles are cooler and rarer. Besides it only a 2nd gen.
:rofl: :iagree: :rofl:

Fitz73Chrgr

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PocketThunder

member 69_500 who posts mostly in the Aero Car section sold a 69 Sunroof car awhile back. he would be the expert to talk to.

Personally i would keep the Chally Ragtop.  Nothing like having the top down in the summer.  My dad has a 73 Road Runner and a 67 GTO ragtop.  the GTO gets driven everytime and the Road runner sits..
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I think that if you would clone the Challenger vert into an R/T Hemi vert it would be give a higher return on investment as opposed to the Charger. I know that sunroof Chargers are rare but I doubt they will bring 10 grand more than the same Charger without one... It depends how much you are willing to invest or have to invest, the Charger will most definitly be an easier and cheaper one to fix, the Challenger will take more money to complete but will also sell for a lot more... It's your call I guess. If I had the money I would clone the Challenger into a 70 Hemi Challenger R/T convertible, sell it and buy a completed Charger.

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bull

You want to know something sick? I passed on a /6 '70 Challenger convertible in good shape but with no engine 10 years ago for $1,800. :brickwall:

Skyview69

I can't quite remember the exact numbers but for some reason I think there were only 396 69 Chargers made with the sunroof.  Go for the sunroof Charger.  I agree that the fully restored Challenger would bring a little more than the Charger but your time and effort and money restoring it would be more as well - might be a wash.  Besides the Charger is a much better car  ;)

Just 6T9 CHGR

FWIW for 69 there were only 391 total sunroof cars built for 69.

Currently there is likely a 1 of 1 combination RT/SE sunroof Charger in F6 green on ebay....its been on there no less than 5 times.  the seller has a reserve of 50-60k in its current condition.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300099306228&rd=1&rd=1

Currently out of the 15 sunroof cars I have in the registry 8 of them are 383 cars (5- 4bbl & 3- 2bbl cars)  I have 1- 318 car & 6 R/T models

One gauge of worth is documentation as well...does it have the fender tag?  The broadcast sheet?

A roller with no interior I would hazzard a guess of no more than 10k

PLEASE get the tag info & register the car as well

www.1969chargerregistry.com

Chris
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


69_500

So Chris the sunroof 69 that I sold is the only 318 sunroof Charger you have any information on?

I know of another T7 bronze 318 SE sunroof charger that is local to here in Indianapolis as well, I'll see about getting you the information on that one.

I would vote to hang onto the Challenger convertible, those are probably more desireable than a sunroof Charger. If your really interested in a sunroof charger PM me, and I'll put you in contact with a gentleman who knows where 2 sunroof Chargers are that are both for sale currently. One of them is the 318 car I sold, the other is a 383 car.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


6869

Any ideas of what the price difference would be between the 2 as-is? The rotted challenger convert or 69 sunroof solid roller?

moparjohn

Gee, I think you should get the Charger, it is amazing to be driving one with "a hole in the roof" and I didn't know they exsisted utill I bought one! Danny, what do you know about the 383 one- PM me! John
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Alaskan_TA

Personally I would take the Charger.

1- Big hole in the roof.  ;D

2- 'vert with "rotted" in the description.  :o

:scratchchin:

Trade the bad for good and post pictures.  :yesnod:

Barry

69_500

I'll send ya a PM with more information when I get it John on the 383 car. I don't track down sunroof cars too much anymore. Mainly stick to tracking down 500's now. Well and Daytona's :)

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